DarkDefeater Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 http://www.lmtonline.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/13-Celebrities-Who-Married-Relatives-From-11740370.php?ipid=hphottopics Actor Kevin Bacon recently found out he married a relative....and there are many other people who performed a similar course of action. Apparently, “most white people are related,” according to Kevin Bacon’s wife Kyra Sedgwick. The Hollywood couple recently learned that they’re distant cousins on PBS’s “Finding Your Roots.” This got us wondering if any other celebrity duos have shared heritage. Albert Einstein The revered genius married his first cousin Elsa Lowenthal. Rudy Giuliani The former New York mayor married his second cousin once removed, Regina Peruggi. Jerry Lee Lewis The rock and roll musician married his first cousin once removed Myra Gale Brown. David Lean The “Lawrence of Arabia” director married his first cousin Isabel Lean. H.G. Wells The “War of the Worlds” author married his first cousin Isabel Mary Wells. Charles Darwin The famous naturalist married his first cousin Emma Wedgewood. Thomas Jefferson The Founding Father was married to his third cousin Martha Wayles. Edgar Allan Poe Renowned poet and writer of mystery and macabre his cousin Virginia Clemm when she was just 13 years-old. Franklin D. Roosevelt The former U.S. president was married to his fifth cousin once removed, Anna Eleanor Roosevelt. John Kerry The former U.S. Secretary of State is distant cousins with his now ex-wife Julia Thorne. Greta Scacchi The “Presumed Innocent” actress married her first cousin Carlo Mantegazza. Jesse James The infamous American outlaw of the Wild West most noted for robbing banks and trains with his brother Frank married his first cousin Zerelda Mimms after a nine-year courtship Kevin Bacon The actor and his wife Kyra Sedgwick are ninth cousins once removed, as they learned on PBS’s “Finding Your Roots. Read original story 13 Celebrities Who Married Relatives, From Charles Darwin to Kevin Bacon At TheWrap From Kevin Bacon to Albert Eistein....what do you guys think? This makes me feel even better about Corrin and Spoiler Azura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, DarkDefeater said: This makes me feel even better about Corrin and Hide contents Azura. Yeah, well, I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Well, Azura and Corrin are first cousins. Anything beyond first cousins is fine to me, as there isn't much gene-overlap there at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Lucina Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Doesn't make this case any better. Distant cousins are one thing. Direct family is another. I think we should all learn from Arvis and Dierdre that incest is not ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 You need to burn incest with fire. oh wait that's incense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, Ronnie said: You need to burn incest with fire. oh wait that's incense. Or burn others' husbands for incest. I don't see any reason for cousin relationships being labeled as incest, they're nowhere as close to siblings (genetically, I don't know, but in some cases cousins don't have such a close bond), but I don't think there can be any objective definition for what should be considered incest (other than siblings, which seems to be a consensus), so... whatever. It's just funny seeing people treat cousin relationships as AlvisxDeirdre most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I've hooked up with a 2nd cousin. Marrying a 2nd cousin is Legal everywhere in the world. 1st cousins are where it gets iffy. Personally that is where I would draw the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) Just for the record, the probabilities of genetic defects from the union of 1st cousins are actually quite small, less than about 1%. Perhaps even lower than 0.1%. That said, it's certainly not something you want to risk through with repeated generations of 1st cousins unions (as some European royals of old can attest to), but for a first time the threat isn't that big. Ultimately, it's up to the people themselves to decide, not so much the genetics. Of course, the flat (or so) 0 chance from 2nd cousins and over is much more preferable to avoid problems altoguether; but well, I just inform, not judge. Edited August 9, 2017 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Holy Elf Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 First cousins are 50% as genetically similar as full siblings, so if genetics are your reason to oppose one you should probably at least raise an eyebrow at the second. That said, genetics isn't really the reason to oppose incest IMO. 1 hour ago, DarkDefeater said: ninth cousins Okay this is just silly. Ninth cousins have statistically no genetic similarity at all, they're really just random strangers at that point. I wouldn't even call such people cousins; by that logic, you're cousins with literally every other human since we all have a common ancestor if you go back for enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lushen Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Heh, interesting story. Also, I'd like to add that, while not married, Bernie Sanders and Larry David are related. Funny because I think they couldn't look any more similar. Also Kevin Bacon is awesome, totally underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 12 minutes ago, Dark Holy Elf said: First cousins are 50% as genetically similar as full siblings, so if genetics are your reason to oppose one you should probably at least raise an eyebrow at the second. That said, genetics isn't really the reason to oppose incest IMO. Okay this is just silly. Ninth cousins have statistically no genetic similarity at all, they're really just random strangers at that point. I wouldn't even call such people cousins; by that logic, you're cousins with literally every other human since we all have a common ancestor if you go back for enough. Yeah, once you get beyond second cousin, the odds of genetic overlap causing problems goes way down. That being said, the idea of hooking up at the family reunion strikes me as squicky, possibly since I was raised along side several of my second cousins. If having inbred offspring is the chief reason for the aversion to cousin mating, it's odd that it also extends to lesbians. Several of my cousins are what I would consider pretty attractive, but I've never felt romantic feelings for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SullyMcGully Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 In Virginia, we have a lot of jokes about people from West Virginia, Kentucky, and North Carolina. In particular, there is a city in NC where my grandmother grew up. Everybody looked the same because nobody in town was more than a third cousin to everybody else. My grandmother gained notoriety by marrying an "outsider" from VA, even though it turned out that they were still distant relatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, SullyMcGully said: In Virginia, we have a lot of jokes about people from West Virginia, Kentucky, and North Carolina. In particular, there is a city in NC where my grandmother grew up. Everybody looked the same because nobody in town was more than a third cousin to everybody else. My grandmother gained notoriety by marrying an "outsider" from VA, even though it turned out that they were still distant relatives. That city in NC is confirmed to be a hidden village from Naruto. I wonder what their clan's eye power is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SullyMcGully Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 57 minutes ago, Ronnie said: That city in NC is confirmed to be a hidden village from Naruto. I wonder what their clan's eye power is. They're really good at burning witches down there, so maybe that's a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 On 8/8/2017 at 6:10 PM, Dark Holy Elf said: First cousins are 50% as genetically similar as full siblings, so if genetics are your reason to oppose one you should probably at least raise an eyebrow at the second. That said, genetics isn't really the reason to oppose incest IMO. Nah, it's not nearly that high. On average you share 12.5% genetics with your first cousin (25% as genetically similar as full siblings). Genetics-wise, marrying your first cousin is mostly fine; genetic problems tend to occur when you have offspring of cousins marrying cousins (i.e. multi-generational cousin marriage). That being said, it's definitely iffy in today's world, what with our immense population and ease of travel. Second cousins - not for me, but having said that I've only met 3 of my second cousins and I only met them once; I imagine most people haven't met their second cousins, either. So at least people are rarely brought up knowing their second cousins. The second half of your post is spot on, though. The average person has over half a million 8th cousins. And millions of us are related if you go back more than 10 generations or so. Go back 1,000 years and you're related to whole continents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locard Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I wouldn't marry any of my cousins but I would shag them for sure if they were really attractive thankfully (or sadly?) they aren't imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Holy Elf Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 2017-08-10 at 4:14 PM, Res said: Nah, it's not nearly that high. On average you share 12.5% genetics with your first cousin (25% as genetically similar as full siblings). Genetics-wise, marrying your first cousin is mostly fine; genetic problems tend to occur when you have offspring of cousins marrying cousins (i.e. multi-generational cousin marriage). Good catch, yeah. It's your aunt/uncle who are 25% similarity; for some reason I forgot about that stage of the equation (i.e. that you share 50% of your genes with your parent, who shares 50% of their genes with their sibling, who shares 50% of their genes with their child = 12.5%, as you said). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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