DeSu Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 started it last night, but I've been busy with the baby n all. Currently Ch 13. Rolf is awesum( SS, hold your tongue please), Astrid keeps dying on turn one randomly, Boyd is hax, I ♥ Nephenee. Tips for later anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Use Kieran and Astrid, since you probably didn't use Oscar. Also, I hope you are using Jill and Mist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 You need to talk to Shinon with Rolf and then have Ike beat him to recruit Shinon. Sure, there isn't much Shinon can do productive, but it's worthwhile if you're a pacifist. Also, Aether is your buddy when dealing with the Black Knight. It's highly recommended to train Mist, she'll be needed to heal Ike during the Black Knight fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YokaiKnight Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I recruit Astrid on the first turn. Shove Ike so she's within her range. If you use Mordecai, Smite saves a character. Are you using any mages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 So far my characters appear as such. Ike: lvl 18 Ranger, 29 hp, 15 str, 5 mag, 13 skill, 20 spd, 11 luk, 14 def, 7 res Boyd: lvl 20 fighter, 40 hp, 20 str, 2 mag, 14 skill, 14 spd, 9 luk, 11 def, 4 res Oscar: lvl 17 lance, 34 hp, 13 str, 3 mag, 13 skill, 13 spd, 8 luk, 14 def, 5 res Rolf: lvl 11 archer, 24 hp, 8 str, 15 skill, 12 spd, 7 luk, 8 def, 5 res( he was better, but people kept dying, so I had to restart. At one point he had 11 def D:!) Ilyana: lvl 13 Mage, 32 hp, 3 str, 10 mag, 12 skill, 13 spd, 12 luk, 4 def, 12 res RHYS!!!!: lvl 17 priest, 26 hp, 19 mag, 13 skill, 11 spd, 13 luk, 3 def, 20 res Kieran: lvl 14 axe, 30 hp, 13 str, 2 mag, 10 skill, 12 spd, 8 luk, 11 def, 1 res Nephenee♥: lvl 13 soldier, 23 hp, 10 str, 3 mag, 15 skill, 15 spd, 7 luk, 10 def, 3 res Zihark: lvl 12 myrm, 25 hp, 11 str, 1 mag, 14 skill, 17 spd, 7 luk, 7 def, 1 res Marcia: lvl 12 peg, 25 hp, 11 str, 1 mag, 11 skill, 14 spd, 6 luk, 11 def, 9 res Mist(sux): lvl 7 loser, 19 hp, 4 str, 8 mag, 5 skill, 10 spd, 12 luk, 4 def, 7 res Not using Soren atm, cuz he's an asshole. He has better stats than Ilyana atm too. Probably gonna use Astrid. Also Brom. Mia was killed by the Black Knight :(. Not using the laguz, Jill or Titania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufasa Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 You're a bastard who let Mia die Use Stefan. He's a god. Find him in the desert. Find him with either Lethe or Mordecai or you've screwed yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 One thing to note. When Mist promotes, get her Sword rank to B, give her the Sonic Sword, and watch her pwn and dodge everyone and everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordnergal Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 How did you recruit Astrid? Talking to Gatrie on the ship did nothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) Ike talks to Astrid, Astrid talks to Gatrie. Also, Titania and Jill are pwn. Arguably the game's two best. But it doesn't matter that you're not using them. This game is easy enough as it is, even on hard mode. There's no need to make it even easier by using the game's best units. Edited November 9, 2008 by Reikken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 Hah. I just don't feel like raising a prepromote, and I already have too many people for Jill to have a spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masu Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 JILL SUCKS So oscar didnt come through even after the lvl ups i got him? Thats a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Stefan comes at level 8 before every other character promotes, so suggesting you have to 'raise' him is. . . lol. But anyway, boots to mage obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) Boots? The item? Those go to Reyson, obviously. Edited November 9, 2008 by Reikken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 So far my characters appear as such.Ike: lvl 18 Ranger, 29 hp, 15 str, 5 mag, 13 skill, 20 spd, 11 luk, 14 def, 7 res Boyd: lvl 20 fighter, 40 hp, 20 str, 2 mag, 14 skill, 14 spd, 9 luk, 11 def, 4 res Oscar: lvl 17 lance, 34 hp, 13 str, 3 mag, 13 skill, 13 spd, 8 luk, 14 def, 5 res Rolf: lvl 11 archer, 24 hp, 8 str, 15 skill, 12 spd, 7 luk, 8 def, 5 res( he was better, but people kept dying, so I had to restart. At one point he had 11 def D:!) Ilyana: lvl 13 Mage, 32 hp, 3 str, 10 mag, 12 skill, 13 spd, 12 luk, 4 def, 12 res RHYS!!!!: lvl 17 priest, 26 hp, 19 mag, 13 skill, 11 spd, 13 luk, 3 def, 20 res Kieran: lvl 14 axe, 30 hp, 13 str, 2 mag, 10 skill, 12 spd, 8 luk, 11 def, 1 res Nephenee♥: lvl 13 soldier, 23 hp, 10 str, 3 mag, 15 skill, 15 spd, 7 luk, 10 def, 3 res Zihark: lvl 12 myrm, 25 hp, 11 str, 1 mag, 14 skill, 17 spd, 7 luk, 7 def, 1 res 1. Marcia: lvl 12 peg, 25 hp, 11 str, 1 mag, 11 skill, 14 spd, 6 luk, 11 def, 9 res 2. Mist(sux): lvl 7 loser, 19 hp, 4 str, 8 mag, 5 skill, 10 spd, 12 luk, 4 def, 7 res 3. Not using Soren atm, cuz he's an asshole. He has better stats than Ilyana atm too. Probably gonna use Astrid. Also Brom. Mia was killed by the Black Knight :(. Not using the laguz, Jill or Titania. 1. train her more and more and more and she becomes really really really good. She's always my second best unit coming before Soren 2. =D You'd better train her before it's too late and she dies. You need her. 3. =o I'm glad that never happens to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Boots? The item? Those go to Reyson, obviously. Eh Dancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masu Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 So far my characters appear as such.Ike: lvl 18 Ranger, 29 hp, 15 str, 5 mag, 13 skill, 20 spd, 11 luk, 14 def, 7 res Boyd: lvl 20 fighter, 40 hp, 20 str, 2 mag, 14 skill, 14 spd, 9 luk, 11 def, 4 res Oscar: lvl 17 lance, 34 hp, 13 str, 3 mag, 13 skill, 13 spd, 8 luk, 14 def, 5 res Rolf: lvl 11 archer, 24 hp, 8 str, 15 skill, 12 spd, 7 luk, 8 def, 5 res( he was better, but people kept dying, so I had to restart. At one point he had 11 def D:!) Ilyana: lvl 13 Mage, 32 hp, 3 str, 10 mag, 12 skill, 13 spd, 12 luk, 4 def, 12 res RHYS!!!!: lvl 17 priest, 26 hp, 19 mag, 13 skill, 11 spd, 13 luk, 3 def, 20 res Kieran: lvl 14 axe, 30 hp, 13 str, 2 mag, 10 skill, 12 spd, 8 luk, 11 def, 1 res Nephenee♥: lvl 13 soldier, 23 hp, 10 str, 3 mag, 15 skill, 15 spd, 7 luk, 10 def, 3 res Zihark: lvl 12 myrm, 25 hp, 11 str, 1 mag, 14 skill, 17 spd, 7 luk, 7 def, 1 res Marcia: lvl 12 peg, 25 hp, 11 str, 1 mag, 11 skill, 14 spd, 6 luk, 11 def, 9 res Mist(sux): lvl 7 loser, 19 hp, 4 str, 8 mag, 5 skill, 10 spd, 12 luk, 4 def, 7 res Not using Soren atm, cuz he's an asshole. He has better stats than Ilyana atm too. Probably gonna use Astrid. Also Brom. Mia was killed by the Black Knight :(. Not using the laguz, Jill or Titania. FUCKIN RETARD. YOU BETTER USE MIST OR UR SCREWED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I'd say Rhys is better, but no one wants to go down that road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masu Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I'd say Rhys is better, but no one wants to go down that road. He is but mist is forced in the BK battle. So its better if he does train her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) I'd say Rhys is better, but no one wants to go down that road. I do. Mist is better, not because of the second part of chapter 27 (I don't give that any weight at all; it's luck-based either way, so you're best off skipping it.), but because of supports, and mobility and durability after promotion. And magic swords. Edited November 9, 2008 by Reikken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) For Nasir? Nah. Ena isn't entirely awful, you can beat BK without Mist, and Ashnard doesn't need more than Ike and Tibarn/Giffca to be beaten. There are better reasons to use Mist. I do.Mist is better, not because of the second part of chapter 27 (I don't give that any weight at all; it's luck-based either way, so you're best off skipping it.), but because of supports, and mobility and durability after promotion. And magic swords. Since they are primarily healers with generally crap for offense, durability isn't going to be playing a huge role. Mist has some nice supports. After promotion is my big thing. Rhys comes about 6 chapters earlier. He's much better the first chapter you have Mist simply because she needs to get a staff level up before she can use Mend and Rhys is healing so much more. Then Rhys is cheaper for the next few maps, depending on when Rhys promotes. After Rhys promotes and until Mist does, he's clearly superior. Although Physic gives Rhys some nice Range - Not better than Mist with a Psychic, but generally equal range, maybe a square less. That's about a chapter or two there per physic. Rhys is better half the chapters you have Mist. Mist is better the other half. Rhys is around longer. His point. Yay for lazy debating. Magic Swords give her better offensive, though it's limited and not exactly incredible. And it's not entirely plausible without those Arms scrolls. Her supports come in big here, though. If she has an edge, it's here. Edited November 9, 2008 by bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masu Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 okay okay take it to the debate boards guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 That's not exactly how it works, I'd imagine. Like it or not, if no one never said a word of stats about a character on the subforum of the game, there wouldn't be as much traffic for any of these games. No, the topic doesn't need to be bogged down with the discussion, but it also doesn't need to be bogged down with the discussion of where the discussion should take place either. If the topic were to appear there, I'd certainly take the argument to the topic. But otherwise, I wouldn't worry about where it takes place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Hm... It probably would be better to keep it here. But whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 I said Soren was an asshole because he is. Gameplay wise he likes to deal damage. Lots. Also, this Oscar isn't hax. But he works well. AND GENIS. WHY WOULD I BOTHER PUTTING MISTS STATS IF SHE WASNT on the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Oh yeah, give her some bexp. Healers make pretty nice use of it. More levels doesn't make them gain exp any slower, and Mist gains a lot on promotion. And she's currently a really low level.. and... wtf? Why is your Rhys 10 levels higher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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