Jotari Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) Couldn't sleep the other night, so I decided to make a patch for this game. Inspired by comments made on this thread. Basically, Lyn now uses bows from the outset and Eliwood uses lances. It's nothing too exotic or anything, in fact, maybe someone has done it before, but eh, thought I'd share. The other big edition is that Darin has been given a Heaven's Seal that you can steal, allowing promotion of one of the lords much earlier. The idea is to make Eliwood and Lyn more interesting to play and hopefully more comparable to Hector in terms of usefulness.The biggest issue is that without Eliwood or Lyn, you're actually wanting for some good sword users (although I also managed to miss Raven as a bandit wrecked Percilla's village, losing me three characters in one go. *sigh* Iron Man runs). The game actually gives you a lot of really good swords during the first half. Although having 1-2 range on Eliwood makes a massive difference (not too sure how Lyn's been effected though, she absolutely rocks for me, but I think I got particularly RNG blessed with her). Full list of changes. Spoiler What Is Changed. *Lyn now uses bows instead of swords as a lord. *Eliwood now uses lances instead of swords as a lord. *Lyn mode tutorial removed (I'm sure we all know how to play the game by now). *Lyn mode bosses have been given ranged weapons. *Lyn starts off with the Emblem Bow, which is not effective against flying units, but has 1-2 range. *The Sol Katti has been transformed into a bow. It retains its stats, including the hit rate. *The Rapier has been transformed into Reginleif, retaining its stats from The Sacred Stones *Lyn has been given an extra 2 points of strength and one point of defense to compensate for her limited phase disadvantage (1-2 range Emblem Bow does exist, but it's only for Lyn mode). *Eliwood has been given an extra point of Con to deal with lances being heavier. *Durandal has been replaced by Maltet with its Binding Blade stats. *Sol Kaitti has been replaced by Murgleis with its Binding Blade stats. *Lyn can uses Ballista. *Short Bow has 1-2 range. For some reason this caused a glitch on the Nomadic Trooper sprite that froze the game, I've only managed to fix it by making the animation think it's a sword when being used by nomadic troopers. *SwordSlayer no longer deals effective damage to Blade Lords. *Darin has been given a Heaven's Seal. A thief is required to steal it. *Blade Lord has been given Sword Master's critical boost. *The Uber Spear has become a prf weapon for Vadia. She also brings it to the second encounter where you can recruit her. To compensate the mad stat gains of the weapon, she has lost 1 point in every base stat it affects and -10% growths. *Aureola no longer has a sacred flash, as it looks like there's only four spots avilable for it. It's not a prf weapon anyway, so screw it. *Some surprises with the Fire Dragon. What Is Not Changed. *Hector. He gets to be plain old normal Hector. He'll still probably outclass the other two. *Aside from the Lyn mode bosses, there is no change to enemy stats or weapons, so Eliwood will be facing a lot of Weapon Triangle Disadvantage during his first chapter. It's still pretty easy though, even on Hard. *Dialogue. The plot remains completely unchanged. Lyn received the magical sword Mani Katti like normal even though it's a bow. *Chapter 28 Eliwood. You still go and get Durandal even though it's Maltet you receive. Maybe if I'm feeling extra motivated I'll replace this chapter and make one for Murgleis...Maybe. *Map Sprites. I can't draw tiny weapons. Download Link Anyway it's out there, if anyone wants to try it. Edited August 5, 2018 by Jotari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Hero Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Why didn't you use this Lynarcher instead? https://www.dropbox.com/s/lpzwdsum5jj9gbh/Lynarcher.zip?dl=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 51 minutes ago, Street Hero said: Why didn't you use this Lynarcher instead? https://www.dropbox.com/s/lpzwdsum5jj9gbh/Lynarcher.zip?dl=0 Well because I didn't know it existed. Is it even Lyn though? Her hair isn't green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Nothing a recolor can't fix! Anyway, this looks interesting. Can I assume that Maltet keeps its dragonslaying ability? If so, I have another terrible idea (thought without Durandal's boost, this might not be possible). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, eclipse said: Nothing a recolor can't fix! Anyway, this looks interesting. Can I assume that Maltet keeps its dragonslaying ability? If so, I have another terrible idea (thought without Durandal's boost, this might not be possible). Maltet and Mugleis keep their dragon slaying abilities, but Durandal doesn't exist. In keeping with FE7, they're also still prf weapons for Eliwood and Lyn respectively. What were you planning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruggov Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Wasn't there a lance Eliwood animation somewhere? I don't exactly remember where I saw it, but it's there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Hero Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Jotari said: Well because I didn't know it existed. Is it even Lyn though? Her hair isn't green. Febuilder-image editor-battle animations- pallette edit- ggez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Hero Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Kruggov said: Wasn't there a lance Eliwood animation somewhere? I don't exactly remember where I saw it, but it's there somewhere. Yes it is. Forum- resources -search battle animations or something like that Edit: or Edited June 13, 2018 by Street Hero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Street Hero said: Yes it is. Forum- resources -search battle animations or something like that Edit: or Any help importing battle animations? I exported Ephraim's animation from The Sacred Stones to use for Eliwood and it came out as a folder full of pngs, but using the import command expects a Battle Animation file type or an FEEditorSeralizedFormat. Not sure how to make that, do I need some kind of software to convert? EDIT: Ah. I see those drop box links already have the required file types for importing. Very convenient. Still, I'd like to know how to do it just for future reference. Edited June 13, 2018 by Jotari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 Point I'm unsure about. By default, the Sword Slayer deals effective damage against Blade Lords (but not Lyn or Eliwood's normal lord class for some reason, just Blade Lords). Blade Lords still obviously use swords, but because you've been using bows for first tier, Lyn's obviously going to be much more focused as a Bow unit. Should Sword Slayer still deal effective damage against her? And note, the sword slayer targets classes, so it'll always deal effective damage regardless as to what weapon is equipped. If Lyn is packing five bows, a swordslayer will wreck her anyway right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Hero Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Jotari said: Any help importing battle animations? I exported Ephraim's animation from The Sacred Stones to use for Eliwood and it came out as a folder full of pngs, but using the import command expects a Battle Animation file type or an FEEditorSeralizedFormat. Not sure how to make that, do I need some kind of software to convert? EDIT: Ah. I see those drop box links already have the required file types for importing. Very convenient. Still, I'd like to know how to do it just for future reference. In febuilder u can import via feditor format(file with no extension) or febuilder format(text+images file). If u are unsure, choose "all file" in febuilder - image editor- battle animations - import animation windows. That's all i know( I'm no hacker but u should use febuilder because it's easier to modify roms) About the effective weapon, i suggest using the effective address one-by-one so you can choose the class getting extra dmg but then again i'm no hacker :-S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruggov Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Jotari said: Point I'm unsure about. By default, the Sword Slayer deals effective damage against Blade Lords (but not Lyn or Eliwood's normal lord class for some reason, just Blade Lords). Blade Lords still obviously use swords, but because you've been using bows for first tier, Lyn's obviously going to be much more focused as a Bow unit. Should Sword Slayer still deal effective damage against her? And note, the sword slayer targets classes, so it'll always deal effective damage regardless as to what weapon is equipped. If Lyn is packing five bows, a swordslayer will wreck her anyway right now. IMO, seeing as how she no longer focuses on swords, Swordslayer should not deal effective damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Street Hero said: In febuilder u can import via feditor format(file with no extension) or febuilder format(text+images file). If u are unsure, choose "all file" in febuilder - image editor- battle animations - import animation windows. That's all i know( I'm no hacker but u should use febuilder because it's easier to modify roms) About the effective weapon, i suggest using the effective address one-by-one so you can choose the class getting extra dmg but then again i'm no hacker :-S Oh I know how to edit the effective weapon damage, I'm just questioning whether I should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Hero Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Jotari said: Oh I know how to edit the effective weapon damage, I'm just questioning whether I should. Well about that, imo just think her promoted class like Ranger/Nomad Trooper except the horse parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 19 hours ago, Jotari said: Maltet and Mugleis keep their dragon slaying abilities, but Durandal doesn't exist. In keeping with FE7, they're also still prf weapons for Eliwood and Lyn respectively. What were you planning? Under the right circumstances, Eliwood can solo the dragon. It takes some planning and RNG level-ups, but it's hilarious when it works. Maltet has one more MT than FE7 Durandal, but Durandal's stat boost gives it more overall power. I think Eliwood will need +2 strength from supports to do the same thing. He won't need a Body Ring, due to Maltet's weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 hour ago, eclipse said: Under the right circumstances, Eliwood can solo the dragon. It takes some planning and RNG level-ups, but it's hilarious when it works. Maltet has one more MT than FE7 Durandal, but Durandal's stat boost gives it more overall power. I think Eliwood will need +2 strength from supports to do the same thing. He won't need a Body Ring, due to Maltet's weight. Not needing Body Rings is one of the reasons I wanted to give him Maltet. Eliwood just isn't build to wield something the size of Durandal. I should make a note that due to the earlier Heaven Seal, you have a lot more control about who you fight between the two Black Fang brothers. The game doesn't take into account the lord's promotion, so a level 3 Blade Lord and two level 20 Lords will only register as 43 combined levels instead of 63. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roger The Paladin Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) In some ways the whole thing makes more sense canonically with FE6's bonus characters (where Eliwood has an S rank with Lances and only an A with Swords) but on the other hand something seems wrong to me about making it so the sword the game was named for is not actually used. Well unless you count that cutscene with Ninian. That said, I do see the problems with Eliwood's constitution. Using both body-rings on him so he can more effectively use Durandal seems almost pointless when there are better options for the body rings that'll help you for more chapters. Wouldn't another solution be to lower Durandal's weight to it's Binding Blade weight so it's not as hefty? After all the body rings have an effect of plus 4 con between them, and Durandal's weight is 16 in FE7 and only 12 in FE6, so it's effectively the same as giving him the rings. Edited June 14, 2018 by Mad-manakete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Mad-manakete said: In some ways the whole thing makes more sense canonically with FE6's bonus characters (where Eliwood has an S rank with Lances and only an A with Swords) but on the other hand something seems wrong to me about making it so the sword the game was named for is not actually used. Well unless you count that cutscene with Ninian. That said, I do see the problems with Eliwood's constitution. Using both body-rings on him so he can more effectively use Durandal seems almost pointless when there are better options for the body rings that'll help you for more chapters. Wouldn't another solution be to lower Durandal's weight to it's Binding Blade weight so it's not as hefty? After all the body rings have an effect of plus 4 con between them, and Durandal's weight is 16 in FE7 and only 12 in FE6, so it's effectively the same as giving him the rings. It is weird that they made it heavier. It's like, this is the main weapon of the game, let's make it useless. Of course there's no real reason the game is called Blazing Blade, it reeks of "We couldn't come up with anything more relevant." No wonder they didn't bother to keep the subtitle when localising it. And even if the title was first established in its predecessor, Durandal doesn't blaze in any way! That's the Sword if Seals deal. I'm actually headcannoning now that The Sword of Seals was the original Blazing Blade but the name got transferred to Durandal via loss of info in word of mouth. Seems likely give. How the Sword of Seals was seemingly forgotten or confused in nature compared to the other weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roger The Paladin Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jotari said: It is weird that they made it heavier. It's like, this is the main weapon of the game, let's make it useless. Of course there's no real reason the game is called Blazing Blade, it reeks of "We couldn't come up with anything more relevant." No wonder they didn't bother to keep the subtitle when localising it. And even if the title was first established in its predecessor, Durandal doesn't blaze in any way! That's the Sword if Seals deal. I'm actually headcannoning now that The Sword of Seals was the original Blazing Blade but the name got transferred to Durandal via loss of info in word of mouth. Seems likely give. How the Sword of Seals was seemingly forgotten or confused in nature compared to the other weapons I always figured it was more to have an elemental effect to it's nickname like the Bow of Gales, the Blizzard Spear, and the Thunder Axe. But that would make sense. The making it heavier thing sure as hell doesn't. Not when the only guy you allow to use it doesn't have the con to wield it effectively. Even if Eliwood caps speed and takes both body rings he'll be unable to double most of the morphs in the chapter with the thing. It's almost like IS overcompensated for Idounn being so easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 Updated things. Added in the more suitable animations and removed some glitches that hopefully no one has got a chance to see. Also did a little rearranging to make the Fire Dragon and one other boss more exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbyz Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I'm crashing at the cutscene of Ch.4 Lyn Hard Mode, after Dorcas appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Cabbyz said: I'm crashing at the cutscene of Ch.4 Lyn Hard Mode, after Dorcas appears. That's odd. I never had anything like that happen. I never even tried to edit any cutscenes. Hmm, maybe it's the result of something I changed after Lyn mode. I'll have to get back to you on that. Thanks for playing it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbyz Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 46 minutes ago, Jotari said: That's odd. I never had anything like that happen. I never even tried to edit any cutscenes. Hmm, maybe it's the result of something I changed after Lyn mode. I'll have to get back to you on that. Thanks for playing it so far. It could certainly be on my end as well. I'll try a few different remedies and hopefully get back to you if any succeed. Definitely piqued my interest in the small amount of time I played-- Lyn and Eliwood were constantly neglected in my runs and this idea invigorates me, so I hope there's a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Cabbyz said: It could certainly be on my end as well. I'll try a few different remedies and hopefully get back to you if any succeed. Definitely piqued my interest in the small amount of time I played-- Lyn and Eliwood were constantly neglected in my runs and this idea invigorates me, so I hope there's a solution. Okay, I am getting the glitch on my playthrough, and I know why I wasn't getting it before. I skipped through all the cutscenes by pressing start when I first play tested it. You can do that to work around it. I don't think there should be any other glitches of that nature, as I suspect the reason for it is because I changed the portrait of the boss in that level to open up space for a fun surprise in the end game. I'll work on fixing it and post an update later if I do, but for now, simply press start to skip the cutscene entirely and thus skip the glitch. EDIT: Okay, fixed it and replaced the upload; t'was a simple matter in the end. As I said, I don't think there should be any more glitches like that, as I was freeing up data to get portraits for another character and I only did that once (as far as I can recall), but do tell me if you encounter anything like it again. Have fun playing and keep me posted on your opinions/suggested modifications. I think you're the only one that's actually gone and played it so far. Edited August 5, 2018 by Jotari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruggov Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Don't know if this counts as necro, but I'll post it anyway. There's a bug in Lyn Normal Chapter 4 - the two scenes involving the boss in the middle of the chapter instead show Yoder's portrait from FE6. The first cutscene also highlights a wrong spot (the tile directly adjacent to the fortress wall and the edge of the map to the left of the fortress), though it's supposed to highlight the boss. Also, in the mode select screen, Lyn's sprite is the "Lynarcher" sprite from further up the thread (complete with lack of ponytail, blonde hair and brown-ish clothing), while in the game proper it's the Blade Lord sprite. I can already see that bow Lyn is MUCH safer than sword Lyn, I don't have to constantly worry about RNG screwing me over with bullshit accuracy hits actually hitting her. Also, Glass with Light Brand was pretty funny (if a bit scary for this early in the game, considerng that's around 13 attack while hitting Res) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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