Lost Impact Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) Seen a lot of character discussions around here lately, so I thought I'd have a go at making my own tier list. This is based off my countless runs of the game, most likely opinions will differ though, so please tell me your thoughts on it. Either way, thought this might help out people playing the Tellius series for the first time, or just people wanting to do a challenge run. I have ranked the characters based on availability, stats, effectiveness in their available levels, and required cost to train them. I assumed no transfers for any character, to make it more fair, and also less cluttered. Herons are excluded since they're hard to place on a tier list, Reyson - Rafiel - Leanne is the tier list for them, but it doesn't really matter since they're all good units. If you have any questions about a character's place on the list, just ask me. Brawl Meta Naito Tier: Haar ------------------------------------------------------------ High Tier: Nailah Baesala Tibarn Ike Titania Volug Caineghis Giffca ----------------------------------------------------------- Upper Mid Tier: Nephenee Shinon Mia Nolan Gatrie Janaff Ulki Boyd Jill Zihark Oscar Marcia Soren Micaiah ----------------------------------------------------------- Mid Tier: Danved Tanith Sigrun Sothe Elincia Tauroreno Callil Ilyana Brom Volke Geoffrey Kieran Aran Leonardo Edward Sanaki Laura Stefan Nasir Kurthnaga ----------------------------------------------------------- Lower Mid Tier: Mordecai Mist Rhys Heather Rolf Ranulf Ena Lucia Pelleas ----------------------------------------------------------- Low Tier: Lethe Astrid Renning Muarim Nealuchi Makalov Bastian Vika Tormod Lehran Meg Gareth ----------------------------------------------------------- Bottom Tier: Oliver Fiona Lyre Edited June 17, 2018 by Lost Impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) Laura is very useful in part 3, so definitely no low tier Tormod's and Vika's bases are good enough for part 1, they've more uses than Bastian who mainly exists to recruit Volke Muarim is the only one of the trio who's usable in 4-4. Ranulf and Janaff are high tier / up mid tier at least. Their bases are great to (almost) ORKO enemies. Elincia is top tier, mobile healer and a fantastic offensive unit. She Can OKRO an aura. Sure, she joins underleveled in part 4, but paragon fixes it, and that's really the only ressource she needs. Edited June 16, 2018 by Hecatia Lapislazuli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re: The weirdo. Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) ive not played RD at all but isn't haar kinda late game? should he really be top tier? i dunno thats just what i hear though Edited June 16, 2018 by (s)ad touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyYouKnow Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, (s)ad touch said: ive not played RD at all but isn't haar kinda late game? should he really be top tier? i dunno thats just what i hear though He joins in the prologue of Part 2 and re-joins mid-way through part 3. He arguably has one of the highest availability numbers of any optional character in the game. And also: Rolf is someone that doesn't require much babying, and surpasses Shinon in multiple stats when the two go to third tier. So why is Rolf in low mid? And Oliver should go to low mid, since if you give him speedwings he's a great unit to have. Edited June 16, 2018 by NobodyYouKnow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re: The weirdo. Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 @NobodyYouKnow not sure how the parts thing works but cool. yeah thats pretty nuts from what ive heard of his stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyYouKnow Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 minute ago, (s)ad touch said: @NobodyYouKnow not sure how the parts thing works but cool. yeah thats pretty nuts from what ive heard of his stats If you play RD you'll figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re: The weirdo. Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 @NobodyYouKnowI would, but my laptop has been compared to the humble potato in terms of processing power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Impact Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 44 minutes ago, Hecatia Lapislazuli said: Laura is very useful in part 3, so definitely no low tier Tormod's and Vika's bases are good enough for part 1, they've more uses than Bastian who mainly exists to recruit Volke Muarim is the only one of the trio who's usable in 4-4. Ranulf and Janaff are high tier / up mid tier at least. Their bases are great to (almost) ORKO enemies. Elincia is top tier, mobile healer and a fantastic offensive unit. She Can OKRO an aura. Sure, she joins underleveled in part 4, but paragon fixes it, and that's really the only ressource she needs. Laura is very hard to level up, and is completely outclassed by Micaiah. However, she is useful as a staffbot I guess, so I'll probably move her up a bit. Think I was a bit harsh there Tormod and Vika aren't worth investing in or using as the DB need all the experience that they can get. Bastian however, is a bit high, yes. Hence why he is above Tormod and Vika They're Laguz, though. Ranulf in particular drains his meter very quickly. That said, I might move them up since low tier is a bit harsh Elincia joins late, is very squishy and in the same levels as Tibarn. Sure, she's a healer, but you have Micaiah. Not to mention she's a flier who will almost certainly get one shotted by one of the many archers in late game which you'll have to avoid. Sure, you might say that's bad playing, but it just means another thing to worry about. Especially Rebirth 2 will give her trouble. And paragon is investment. She's good against the auras, though. I think near the top of mid tier is good for her 12 minutes ago, (s)ad touch said: ive not played RD at all but isn't haar kinda late game? should he really be top tier? i dunno thats just what i hear though You're thinking of Path of Radiance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re: The weirdo. Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 @Lost Impact ok got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Impact Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, NobodyYouKnow said: He joins in the prologue of Part 2 and re-joins mid-way through part 3. He arguably has one of the highest availability numbers of any optional character in the game. And also: Rolf is someone that doesn't require much babying, and surpasses Shinon in multiple stats when the two go to third tier. So why is Rolf in low mid? And Oliver should go to low mid, since if you give him speedwings he's a great unit to have. Speedwings is investment, especially when you should be saving those for Miccy. Rolf requires a lot of babying, and especially in the harder difficulties he's just not worth using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyYouKnow Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Lost Impact said: Speedwings is investment, especially when you should be saving those for Miccy. Rolf requires a lot of babying, and especially in the harder difficulties he's just not worth using. Then I've always been super lucky with him I guess. He's always just a tiny bit worse than Shinon in tier 2 for me, and when he goes to become a marksman he becomes godly. When he got the Double Bow he one-shot an aura in the endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyYouKnow Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, NobodyYouKnow said: Then I've always been super lucky with him I guess. He's always just a tiny bit worse than Shinon in tier 2 for me, and when he goes to become a marksman he becomes godly. When he got the Double Bow he one-shot an aura in the endgame. I was distracted, I meant two-shot. But still that's quite a feat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Impact Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 Right, made a few changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyYouKnow Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just one more thing. In what world is Lehran lowmid tier? I've never actually used Pelleas, but Lehran is in no way fit for lowmid in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver-Haired Maiden Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Personally I would put Vika, Meg, and Gareth in bottom tier, but that's just me xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyYouKnow Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Silver-Haired Maiden said: Personally I would put Vika, Meg, and Gareth in bottom tier, but that's just me xD Yes, but Meg and Gareth aren't ever completely useless, and Vika has some use in Part 1. Neither of the two are ever totally useless. Well, at least if you use Meg that is. Edited June 16, 2018 by NobodyYouKnow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Impact Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 @NobodyYouKnow Lehran is only available in one chapter and is a pain to unlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyYouKnow Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 @Lost ImpactI forgot you judged off of availability too, yeah. He deserves lowmid then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Impact Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 @Silver-Haired Maiden I wouldn't say Vika, Meg and Gareth are bottom tier. Vika is very useful in the swamp level in part 1, Meg has her uses and is not too hard to train, and Gareth provides Blood Tide support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) On which difficulty is this tierlist based? Also here are the results of a tierlist from the last year voted by people from ths forum. ranked way too low Elincia Sothe (without him part 1 wouldn't be possible in hard mode) ranked too low Janaff Ulkie Ranulf ranked too high Giffca Sanaki Danved Leonardo (he's not better than Edward) Edited June 16, 2018 by Hecatia Lapislazuli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyYouKnow Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hecatia Lapislazuli said: On which difficulty is this tierlist based on? Also here are the results of a tierlist from the last year voted by people from ths forum. ranked way too low Elincia Sothe (without him part 1 wouldn't be possible in hard mode) ranked too low Janaff Ulkie Ranulf ranked too high Naesala Giffca Sanaki Leonardo (he's not better than Edward) In what world are they ranked too high? Naesala has great base stats, growths, and decent enough availability to level cap, Giffca is Caineghis but a bit faster and a little bit weaker which can be good, Sanaki requires almost zero babying to be able to hold her own in the Endgame (she was useful to me in it at level 8), and don't even get me started on comparing Edward and Leo. Edited June 16, 2018 by NobodyYouKnow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Sanaki joins late with low bases. Sure, she has amazing potential for being able to double auras, but it's not paid as well as it would be for Jill. Giffa joins extremly late. He is as powerful as Cain, but he needs one more turn to have Cain's perfomance. Leonardo's is a bit underrated imo, but defenitely not good enough for being mid tier. His bases are fine but his growths are terrible. He's good in 2-3 chapters in part 1 and decent when he has Lughnasadh, but his combat isn't great overall, at least until he has Lughnasadh. Well, I take Naesala from my list, but I wouldn't rank him as third best unit in FE10. He's the weakest Laguz for only having S-strike and he can't ORKO everyone unlike Tibarn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Impact Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hecatia Lapislazuli said: On which difficulty is this tierlist based? Also here are the results of a tierlist from the last year voted by people from ths forum. ranked way too low Elincia Sothe (without him part 1 wouldn't be possible in hard mode) ranked too low Janaff Ulkie Ranulf ranked too high Naesala Giffca Sanaki Danved Leonardo (he's not better than Edward) Ahahahaha…. I was waiting for someone to bring up Leonardo vs Edward. This is based off normal mode, by the way. Anyway, explanations I already explained Elincia Sothe I don't think deserves higher than mid tier. He's only useful in part 1 and killing some laguz in part 3, after that he's a waste of space whose only purpose is giving you game overs because you forgot he exists Baesala is a laguz royal and is on the Distortions map. He's in Micaiah's group and is required for them. I'd rank him above Tibarn simply because he's in a weaker army with a desert map. Especially if you haven't prepared he is necessary Giffca is just another Caineghis. He makes up for his lack of formshift with a laguz stone that he comes with. Requires no investment and excellent for endgame Sanaki is a useful siege tome user for endgame and works very well as a chipper against Deghinsea. She's also required, has access to many different kinds of magic, and has good growth rates Danved is a very underrated unit, people tend to forget about him because of Neph, but he's got solid stats and is one of the best Royal Knights. He comes with a Killer Lance, for a start, isn't too underlevelled, is good on the Royal Knights maps, and can be a good Wishblade candidate for endgame. Leonardo is better than Edward, I'd say. For a start, being a ranged unit he's easier to level up. He has excellent availability so levelling him up isn't too hard in Part 1. Edward, on the other hand, is a pain to level up on hard due to being a melee unit with bad bases. Sure, he may have better growth rates, but his lack of defense and the number of Melee enemies means he can get two shotted by Part 3 enemies as he'll always be underlevelled as he's part of the DB. Leonardo, however, is a solid unit to level up for Part 3, as he gets his legendary bow that boosts speed, allowing him to double the tigers and possibly cats, as well as many beorc units. As an archer he doesn't need to be able to tank hits. Edward's sword only boosts luck. Edward is a hard to train glass cannon on a team of glass cannons, you'd just be better off giving that xp to Nolan. And yeah, sure Tempest Blades exist, but have limited uses. Zihark is the better option, as he starts off good and comes with Adept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyYouKnow Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hecatia Lapislazuli said: Sanaki joins late with low bases. Sure, she has amazing potential for being able to double auras, but it's not paid as well as it would be for Jill. Giffa joins extremly late. He is as powerful as Cain, but he needs one more turn to have Cain's perfomance. Leonardo's is a bit underrated imo, but defenitely not good enough for being mid tier. His bases are fine but his growths are terrible. He's good in 2-3 chapters in part 1 and decent when he has Lughnasadh, but his combat isn't great overall, at least until he has Lughnasadh. Well, I take Naesala from my list, but I wouldn't rank him as third best unit in FE10. He's the weakest Laguz for only having S-strike and he can't ORKO everyone unlike Tibarn. I don't think that the order in which they were placed inside of the tiers meant anything as to how good the characters were, so I still defend them. And it doesn't matter that Sanaki's strength and defense are low. Her everything else is enough to put her safely within mid tier. Giffca is less powerful, yes, but his skill nd speed are higher, which counters that enough that they're both about equal. And he's not just judging from the stats, either. That's the reason Naesala is so high. I personally think Ike and Titania are more uppermid than high tier, but that's just me. Because if we were to use the same logic as to why those two are there, then Shinon and Nolan should be high tier as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyYouKnow Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 @Lost ImpactYESSS QUEEN ZIHARK MY BOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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