Destiny Hero Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I don't like these ones: Free overpowered units Lords Items for promotion Automatic promotions for lords Only one dark magic user, and he ends up bad (Pelleas and Canas are good, Knoll is terrible) A cheesy plot twist Kings/Queens/Princes/Princesses that fight alongside their people (I'm looking at you, Elincia, Pelleas, laguz royals, and half the cast of Sacred Stones...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) Only one dark magic user, and he ends up bad (Pelleas and Canas are good, Knoll is terrible) Ewan. Kings/Queens/Princes/Princesses that fight alongside their people (I'm looking at you, Elincia, Pelleas, laguz royals, and half the cast of Sacred Stones...) It wouldn't make for a good ending otherwise. Imagine. King: Thanks for saving my kingdom. You can go now. Don't forget to tip the stable boy for watching all those animals you're keeping. Edited November 13, 2008 by bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I don't like these ones:Free overpowered units Lords Items for promotion Automatic promotions for lords Only one dark magic user, and he ends up bad (Pelleas and Canas are good, Knoll is terrible) A cheesy plot twist Kings/Queens/Princes/Princesses that fight alongside their people (I'm looking at you, Elincia, Pelleas, laguz royals, and half the cast of Sacred Stones...) Like...? So there should be no main characters? Alright, I understand you there. See one above. You forget Sofiya and Rei. They're pretty bad. So, the plot should be totally straightforward with no hidden meaning? And the Royalty should be jackasses and say "lolnubscan'tfightforthemselves"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I don't like these ones:Free overpowered units Lords Items for promotion Automatic promotions for lords Only one dark magic user, and he ends up bad (Pelleas and Canas are good, Knoll is terrible) A cheesy plot twist Kings/Queens/Princes/Princesses that fight alongside their people (I'm looking at you, Elincia, Pelleas, laguz royals, and half the cast of Sacred Stones...) I laugh at all of those ones you listed. Except for the "Items for Promotion." Anyways: Wyvern units usually being enemies and Pegasus units and Valkyries usually being good guys Main lord usually being a young-ass character Girls usually not being strong or muscular looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Wyvern units usually being enemies and Pegasus units and Valkyries usually being good guys FE6 Main lord usually being a young-ass character Uh. . . FE4 comes closest? FE3 book 2. Girls usually not being strong or muscular looking Viada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Bunny, I guessed didn't noticed the words "usually" on my last post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I noticed. I just felt it was appropriate to point out the titles that don't qualify, seeing as how I did for the TC as well. And perhaps you're looking for a change and haven't played said titles, then noting that something different exists is never bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blind Archer Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I said it before and I'll say it again; the blue hair on the lords. Enough with it already. >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Hero Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Like...?So there should be no main characters? Alright, I understand you there. See one above. You forget Sofiya and Rei. They're pretty bad. So, the plot should be totally straightforward with no hidden meaning? And the Royalty should be jackasses and say "lolnubscan'tfightforthemselves"? I just don't like how there's one character (or multiple ones) that I'm forced to use in every single level, even if I don't like them, especially since, and here's something that you might not understand, I play for fun. Whoever Sofiya and Rei are, they're not from an american Fire Emblem so they don't matter. I'm talking about cheesy plot twists and stuff. No, they shouldn't be like that, but I'm really sick of all the royalty that fight alongside their armies. It gets realy obnoxious, especially in Sacred Stones, where EVERY prince and princess joins the fight. It's a good idea, but it's severely overused and just gets annoying after a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Canon girlfriends with flying horses/magic/both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Whoever Sofiya and Rei are, they're not from an american Fire Emblem so they don't matter. So Sigurd doesn't count as a good Lord with the idea of 'all Lords suck' because he's of FE4? :o Rei and Salem are alright Dark Magic users. But of course, Salem could use other magic and Staves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Hero Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 So Sigurd doesn't count as a good Lord with the idea of 'all Lords suck' because he's of FE4? :oRei and Salem are alright Dark Magic users. But of course, Salem could use other magic and Staves... The early Fire Emblem games can't legally be played in English, so people break the law and download an English patch of it. Until the game is in English, it shouldn't exist in English debates, since they technically don't exist yet. They're basically games that haven't been made yet. They're there, but not in English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 The early Fire Emblem games can't legally be played in English, so people break the law and download an English patch of it. Until the game is in English, it shouldn't exist in English debates, since they technically don't exist yet. They're basically games that haven't been made yet. They're there, but not in English. Ever hear of importing games? Don't be so closed minded. They count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Hero Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 I said it before and I'll say it again; the blue hair on the lords. Enough with it already. >_> Yes. Ever hear of importing games? Don't be so closed minded. They count. If you can read Japanese. I won't have a problem with those games once they're released in English and can be counted as playable. A Japanese Fire Emblem game has no place in a discussion about English Fire Emblem games, until it gets translated and legaly obtained in English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 The early Fire Emblem games can't legally be played in English, so people break the law and download an English patch of it. Until the game is in English, it shouldn't exist in English debates, since they technically don't exist yet. They're basically games that haven't been made yet. They're there, but not in English. that's just silly those games are fully legit and are a part of the series. just because you can't play them doesn't mean they shouldn't be counted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 If you can read Japanese. I won't have a problem with those games once they're released in English and can be counted as playable.A Japanese Fire Emblem game has no place in a discussion about English Fire Emblem games, until it gets translated and legaly obtained in English. You don't need to read Japanese to play the game. You need to read Japanese to understand it's story, but not to play it. Luckily, we're not debating English Fire Emblem games. We're debating Fire Emblem. You CAN get Japanese Fire Emblem games legally. >_> So, it might be smart if you stopped talking like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 You don't need to read Japanese to play the game. You need to read Japanese to understand it's story, but not to play it.Luckily, we're not debating English Fire Emblem games. We're debating Fire Emblem. You CAN get Japanese Fire Emblem games legally. >_> So, it might be smart if you stopped talking like that. this. Serenes Forest isn't a "Fire Emblem's Released Outside of Japan" website. its a "Fire Emblem" website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Hero Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 You CAN get Japanese Fire Emblem games legally. You can't get them in English, though. Every thread I make is with and for the legal English Fire Emblem games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 You can't get them in English, though.Every thread I make is with and for the legal English Fire Emblem games. So? How does that stop you from playing the game? You can't dictate what people talk about, though. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 You can't get them in English, though.Every thread I make is with and for the legal English Fire Emblem games. then maybe you shouldn't make generalizations about the games unless you have played every single one out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Unfortunately for the logic presented, you could just as soon import the titles and use a translation guide - FE6 has full script and supports, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Hero Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Back on topic, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZephyrD Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) The early Fire Emblem games can't legally be played in English, so people break the law and download an English patch of it. Until the game is in English, it shouldn't exist in English debates, since they technically don't exist yet. They're basically games that haven't been made yet. They're there, but not in English. -The majority of FE games are not in English, so they don't exist? -The majority of FE "traditions" stem from non-English games, so they don't exist? The Language shouldn't matter, I can't read Japanese and I've played FE4-6, a bit of 11 and 8 before it was localised and enjoyed them quite immensely. There's no reason to not count them, they're the basis of the series and the basis of the majority of the traditions in the series, you're not going to find many in just 4 games when there's 11 total. Saying that it's illegal is garbage too. I have more English ROMs than Japanes ROMs and it's easy to get imported legal Japanese games. Edit: As for traditions, I'm pretty neutral on them, only thing I can really think of is the whole 3 Pegs knights that appear in most games, but maybe that's just cause I hate pegs knights. Edited November 13, 2008 by ZephyrShakuraus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Back on topic, please? You have no right to say that since you brought this off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical CC Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I don't like these ones:Free overpowered units Lords Items for promotion Automatic promotions for lords Only one dark magic user, and he ends up bad (Pelleas and Canas are good, Knoll is terrible) A cheesy plot twist Kings/Queens/Princes/Princesses that fight alongside their people (I'm looking at you, Elincia, Pelleas, laguz royals, and half the cast of Sacred Stones...) So, find yourself another game and stick with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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