Destiny Hero Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Canas is better than Knoll. At least for me, Canas got up to the same defense as normal units, and remained fairly lucky. Knoll just plain sucks, and is the only dark magic user I know of who gets crippled by a physical attack. Anyone else heart Canas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 No contest. Luna is way too broken in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Hero Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 No contest. Luna is way too broken in this game. Luna? The resistance negater? I always hated that spell. I think it's sort of useless since the enemy stats never change; just their weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) Knoll is horrible. Canas is nothing special either, but he's better than that piece of shit. Edited November 13, 2008 by Red Fox of Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGV Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Canas... no contest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Luna? The resistance negater? I always hated that spell. I think it's sort of useless since the enemy stats never change; just their weapons. Do you even bother looking at stats before you make comments like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Hero Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Knoll is horrible. Canas is nothing special either, but he's better than that piece of shit. I was so sad when I found out how bad Knoll was ;-; I always look forward to using the dark mages, and any character that reminds me of me. That was Knoll ;-; Do you even bother looking at stats before you make comments like this? Whoops, sorry, the enemies on the last level have 3 more resistance than on the first level, my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordnergal Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Not only does Canas kick ass but he also wears a monocle. Enough said ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordnergal Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I was so sad when I found out how bad Knoll was ;-;I always look forward to using the dark mages, and any character that reminds me of me. That was Knoll ;-; Whoops, sorry, the enemies on the last level have 3 more resistance than on the first level, my bad. How do dark mages remind you of yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Whoops, sorry, the enemies on the last level have 3 more resistance than on the first level, my bad. Whoops, sorry, you completely forgot all of the h4x Magic Using bosses later on with high Res like Sonia, Limstella, and Nergal. Whoops, sorry, you also forgot the Fire Dragon. Whoops, sorry, you also forgot Luna's high Critical rate. Whoops, sorry, you forgot just about everything in the Endgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Hero Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Not only does Canas kick ass but he also wears a monocle. Enough said ;) And it takes mad skill to look good with a monacle. How do dark mages remind you of yourself? Canas sort of does, but for some reason, Knoll reminded me a lot of myself. *googles images of him* He sort of looks like me. Not the hair, obviously. I'm too weird to have purple hair =] Whoops, sorry, you completely forgot all of the h4x Magic Using bosses later on with high Res like Sonia, Limstella, and Nergal. Whoops, sorry, you also forgot the Fire Dragon. Whoops, sorry, you also forgot Luna's high Critical rate. Whoops, sorry, you forgot just about everything in the Endgame. ... I haven't beaten that game. *flushes spoilers down the toilet, along with the game* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Canas for purple hair, monocle, Bartre and Nino support and being plain better than Knoll. Canas may not be a demon stat-wise, he is pretty damn good because of Dark Magic awesomeness. Also, my canas gets his def near 20 almost every PT. Highest so far is 21. NATURALLY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Can someone give me Canas's Magic growth versus Knoll's? I'm pretty sure Knoll must have a higher growth rate in Magic, since he almost always reaches his cap when I use him. I'm lucky if I can get Canas past twenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Canas has a 45% magic growth whereas Knoll has 50%. Their growths are near-identical, the only real difference being defense (Canas has 25% versus Knoll's 10%). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 At least Canas has a defense and luck stat... Canas is an average unit, but definitely better than Knoll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Canas has better stats, and a better join time than Knoll. Plus Luna is broken in FE7 as opposed to being nerfed in FE8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) Knoll's zero luck is a huge risk on the battlefield... He has a good change of getting criticalled at almost any time. Canas is the definite winner. And Destiny Hero, you need to play FE7 right through to truly appreciate it. It's a great game. Edited November 13, 2008 by Razgriz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deity Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Canas>>>Knoll imo. The only thing that makes Knoll look good is the fact that he can become a summoner. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Canas joins like 8 chapters after the real campaign begins, and there's still a good ~17 chapters left, taking gaidens into account. Knoll joins after fourteen chapters. And for their bases...Knoll doesn't even win. And FE8 PC units are generally stronger. Knollose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Luna is more broken in enemy hand's then Canas' lol. If you really want luna against the dragon, Athos will do fine, though i've never had a run through where you couldn't one turn the dragon using just lord legendary weapons and aureole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Once again, Sonia, Nergal, Limstella, Ursula, Kenneth, and many other Magic-wielding enemies are highly suceptable to Luna. Add the high Critical rate, and we've got a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGV Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) The only thing Knoll has over Canas is the ability to become a summoner. Other than that, Canas>Knoll in everything I don't think I need to put IMO, either Edited November 13, 2008 by CGV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Hero Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 I also find it depressing how, despite being a dark mage, Knoll has less defense than even a healer. Canas, I can send him right into a pool of enemies and have him come out okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Canas has a 45% magic growth whereas Knoll has 50%. Their growths are near-identical, the only real difference being defense (Canas has 25% versus Knoll's 10%). Wow, I figured it had to be higher than that. I want to change my vote for Canas... (Thanks for the statisics, also, Musashi). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Canas >>>>> Knoll easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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