gamefrig Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1. the critical skill gives 15+skill% percent chance to preform a critical 2. noish has adept instead of accost 3. arden has a new skill (leave suggestions) 4. armors and mages have +1 move 5. fire tomes have 6 extra might and deal effective damage against armors and mounted units (so it makes since that alvis beat sigurd) 6. nihil negates all skills and effective attacks (thank god pavis in not has annoying) 7. non sword or infantry units can use luna. solar and astra 8. reclasing costs a lot of gold 9. thunder tomes have -5 weight and give the critical skill 10.axes have there weight reduced by 7 11 lances have -5 weight 12. heros have b axes and get weight -3 13. master knight have a light and a dark 14. nihil and vantage rings 15. sigurd has aether 16. tiltyu joins at 10th level and has better bases 17. non boss enemies have personal skills 18.more bonus scenes depending on your rank 19. olwen because Reinhardt is to popular 20. hard mode because fe 4 is easy 21. jamke has bow range +4 22. midir has bowrange +1 23. brigid has bow range + 6 24. princes can use lances 25. aidean has bow range +3 and miracle 26. the sons inherit there fathers hair color where has the daughters hair color is of there mothers 27. you can buy hair dyes at castles 28. female seliph ( with sliver hair and staff utility but worse stats) 29. no incest pairings corpell should never be able to use the valkire staff 30. a alternate ending if you input the konami code where Sigurd doges alvis attack and lands a tyrfang critical 31. that boss that reks midir actually has the critical skill 32. Claude meets Claude secret event ( you must turn your switch upside down near a tree in chapter 5) 33.wind magic has +2 might and is effective against fliers 34. aura has 1 weight 35. you get a light tome in chapter 4 36. comedy mode where the entire tone of the game changes to that of a parody 37. villages on hard give half as much money 38. more civilians to save 39. more Easter egg chacters in the arena 40. diedres stuff is moved to pawnsho[ 41. you always get the nosfratu tome in chapter 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousSpeed Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, gamefrig said: 3. arden has a new skill (leave suggestions) Let him warp between castles for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephano Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) I like this topic. I don’t really want any of the gameplay mechanics to change, but if they were going to change.... 8: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 10: If Lex or Johan/Joholva had pursuit, i could understand this but it seams that this would only affect enemies. I guess it would make characters like arden and finn double more easily so there's that. 19: Reignhart gets too much love for doing absolutly nothing. I know its because of heroes but i still don't get it. As for Amalda, i'm open for a few FE5 characters showing up in Gen 2 as long as you can deploy every unit you have. 21/23: It may make them way to broken, but improved range for these two would make them more viable. 28: I don't know about this one. I feel like it would alter the dynamic of seliph and Julia too much. This could also mean you could pair Lief and Seliph which just seems...... wrong. 32: LOL. Fire emblem needs for easter eggs, although i would love for IS to create an actual timeline for FE. 36: I will have to disagree with this one. FE4 is dark and morbid and i really think it needs to stay that why, incest, murder and all. Everything else i'm indifferent to or not sure how they would affect the game. Nice list! Edited March 8, 2020 by Stephano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatManThree Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 1. the critical skill gives 15+skill% percent chance to preform a critical Eh, sure I guess? Critical chance from the skill itself alone is calculated equal to the unit's skill stat. However it is raised by factors such as any weapon kills above 50 on a weapon and the +20% crit chance when next to a lover or sibling. Another thing is that adding a natural 20% chance to critical rates on the critical skill would make Ares WAAAAY more broken than he already is. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 2. noish has adept instead of accost Personally I'd rather they'd replace Accost/Charge's effect with the version from FE5. As it stands, the version in FE4 is really ridiculous to activate. In FE5 it is significantly more useful as it can trigger more often. FE4 trigger rate: [User’s Attack Speed – Enemy’s Attack Speed + (HP/2)]% (Unit must also have 25 or more HP to activate) FE5 trigger rate: Initiates another round of combat if user’s Attack Speed and HP are greater than the enemy’s The whole reason Noish has this skill instead of pursuit of adept by the way is because he is supposed to be a slower and bulkier counterpart to Alec. This is why he has a skill that focuses a lot on HP in terms of its activation requirement. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 3. arden has a new skill (leave suggestions) Arden is fine honestly. His stats are actually rather competent surprisingly if he is used, and he can reliably double enemies if he has the pursuit ring. His main problem (which should be obvious as it is a running joke with his character) is that his movement is low and as such is a pain in the ass to use until you obtain the leg ring. If he were to get another skill, then I guess it would have to be critical I guess. Not sure what else you could give him that wouldn't break from his character. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 4. armors and mages have +1 move I dont know how I feel about this. Thing is, Mages and Armors in FE4 have one point of mov less than normal foot units. Boosting their mov by one would make them the same as foot units and in turn making some parts of map significantly more annoying (enemy mages in general, Leif protecting Leonstar in chapter 7, the triangle attack mages in chapter 8, Hannible...). If anything, boosting the mov of unpromoted mages outside of the bard class seems somewhat reasonable. However I still have mixed feelings on it. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 5. fire tomes have 6 extra might and deal effective damage against armors and mounted units (so it makes since that alvis beat sigurd) Six extra might is quite ridiculous, but I like the effective damage idea. Giving the tome type effective damage against armors and mounted units is an interesting concept that makes fire tomes not absolute garbage. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 6. nihil negates all skills and effective attacks (thank god pavis in not has annoying) Pfffft, already does that! 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 7. non sword or infantry units can use luna. solar and astra Sol and Luna are somewhat reasonable, however Astra is hilariously broken in FE4. Then again, astra is locked to Ayra and her kids so I guess the idea still works. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 8. reclasing costs a lot of gold What? Why? That ridiculous! This would only be a serious detriment to players and nothing more, especially those trying to promote Lachesis asap to make dealing with Eldigan less annoying. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 9. thunder tomes have -5 weight and give the critical skill That is broken. I don't feel the need to explain why as it probably should be obvious. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 10.axes have there weight reduced by 7 11 lances have -5 weight I understand that axes in particular have WAY too much weight, but isn't this a bit excessive? 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 12. heros have b axes and get weight -3 They aren't Heroes they are Forests. I know they are called Heroes in the Naga patch but they are not the same class. Anyway I see zero reason as to why you'd ever give them axes. Not only is it pointless to begin with as they will primarily be using a very specific sword in their inventory all the time anyway, but the Forest class is not intended to be like the same as a Hero. The -3 weight as an effect is absolutely broken for the class, effectively making swords nearly or literally weightless. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 13. master knight have a light and a dark Masterknights already can use light magic. As for whether or not they should use dark magic that is a big no. Dark magic is explicitly only used by members of the loptous faith and noone else in the Jugdral games. This is why the only dark magic user in either Jugdral game, a dark mage named Salem, is a former member of them. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 14. nihil and vantage rings Nihil I guess I could understand as a super special or secret, powerful unlockable obtained in the real late game or something. However a vantage ring? Why? I don't see any point in this thing existing at all. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 15. sigurd has aether Dear god no him and Seliph are already insanely broken enough! 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 16. tiltyu joins at 10th level and has better bases I can roll with this. Her bases as is are just sad and make using her an absolute chore. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 17. non boss enemies have personal skills Well, Travant exists. Anyway I guess this could be interesting if done sparingly, carefully, and thoughtfully. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 18.more bonus scenes depending on your rank Rank? You mean number of love points? You do realize this game doesn't have the support system right? 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 19. olwen because Reinhardt is to popular If they add a new unit in gen 2 they will either need to replace an already existing unit or add another one in gen 1 to compensate. Also how canon Thracia 776 is is very debatable as it detours from the normal plot of FE4, most notably Leif's army not being decimated by Blume before Leif was able to meet up with Seliph. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 20. hard mode because fe 4 is easy Hard mode does exist actually...kinda. After you beat the game, you unlock a new option in the setting on subsequent playthroughs which when turned on will increase the intelligence of the enemy AI. Also as for it being "too easy", I think thats a bit of an exaggeration. Outside of Seliph, Ares, and Leif carrying all of gen 2 so that no matter what pairings or lack-there-of that you end up with, you won't have too much issue completing the game. 6 hours ago, gamefrig said: 21. jamke has bow range +4 22. midir has bowrange +1 23. brigid has bow range + 6 While giving specific characters stuff like this is ridiculous, the idea of extending bow range is rather nice. However the problem with this is how large of a scale the maps in this game actually cover. Some of these maps cover entire countries in size. Thracia 776 maps are actually located in very specific locations on the map like a specific village or castle, the scale of the map of FE4 are THAT BIG. A way better way to fix archers is to implement close counter as a skill or something. The primary reason Bow Fighters/Archers in particular are terrible is because they have no way of retaliating at close range, meaning they have almost no enemy phase action at all. Also, in regards to your idea on individual units having different bow ranges, what about Asaello, Deimne, and promoted Lucharba? Oh and also, doing this screws up Lester a lot. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 24. princes can use lances Why would princes wield lances exactly? In FE4 you are primarily going to be using very specific weapons on characters in order to gain kills on said weapon. For the most part, the weapon triangle isn't something you pay that much attention to in this regard as once you gain that crit bonus and keep raising it, you will likely be one rounding the enemy anyway. This is particularly true for Leif and Seliph with their Light Brand and Silver Sword respectively. The Light Brand in particular is incredibly powerful to a ridiculous extent if you do manage to get 50 kills on it since it a light 1-2 range weapon with high damage output to begin with. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 27. you can buy hair dyes at castles I really don't see the point in this. Also I feel it contradicts the games focus on emulating norse or celtic to a faithul extent without getting too anime or anything. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 28. female seliph ( with sliver hair and staff utility but worse stats) Uuuuuuh why? Seriously, why would this ever be a thing? 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 29. no incest pairings corpell should never be able to use the valkire staff From what I have heard, Kaga at some point stated that Silvia and Claud aren't siblings but in fact cousins. Sounds like something he pull out of his ass in order to justify the incest here but its still worth noting. Also this is the only actual incest pairing unrelated to story and what-not in the game that wasn't likely unintentional besides one: Nanna and Ares. Nanna and Ares have a lover conversation though that both makes fun of the fact they are cousins and confirms the truth about Lachesis's unrequited feelings for her half brother. I should probably add that removing incest entirely from the game as a whole is impossible as Arvis unknowingly marrying his own sister is central to the plot. I know youre just referring to gameplay but I feel its still worth mentioning. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 30. a alternate ending if you input the konami code where Sigurd doges alvis attack and lands a tyrfang critical This ain't a konami game but the idea of something stupid like this being trigger-able with a secret code is amusing. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 31. that boss that reks midir actually has the critical skill I really like this. Would be a nice attention to detail. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 32. Claude meets Claude secret event ( you must turn your switch upside down near a tree in chapter 5) Hah! Would be quite funny if it was a thing I will give it that. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 33.wind magic has +2 might and is effective against fliers YES! MAKE THE WIND MAGIC EVEN MORE ABSURDLY UNBALANCED! MUWAHAHAHAHAHA 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 34. aura has 1 weight Thats broken. A better idea is to just give Deirdre Nosferatu like how Julia can obtain it in Gen 2. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 35. you get a light tome in chapter 4 Light/Lightning is incredibly powerful but I don't see why it can't be obtained at that point. Noones likely gonna inherit it anyway besides Ced (though him and his sub already come with one by default). Also Lewyn and Lachesis (if either are alive and promoted) using them shouldn't really hurt when it comes to balance to begin with. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 36. comedy mode where the entire tone of the game changes to that of a parody Like that joke manga (forget the name)? I don't know dude. Sounds like a bit of a task for the devs to implement. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 38. more civilians to save Don't see anything wrong with this. It'll help level up certain units (particularly Leif) who need it a little more than before which is nice. Though I imagine this could really be abused if too many are added. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 39. more Easter egg chacters in the arena Sure I guess. Could update to have references to modern games or something, though I'm not sure there's enough room for too many more. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 40. diedres stuff is moved to pawnsho[ Eeeeeh sounds a little contrived, as helpful as it would be to new players unaware of what is gonna happen. 7 hours ago, gamefrig said: 41. you always get the nosfratu tome in chapter 6 Sure I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Arden's personal skill should be pavise so he can pass it to his kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraven Pooth Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I don't think you're serious, and this is funny, but many of the more realistic suggestions here have actually been done in Shin's Patch, though it hasn't been updated for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forseti Spaghetti Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 8:43 PM, Stephano said: I like this topic. I don’t really want any of the gameplay mechanics to change, but if they were going to change.... 8: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 10: If Lex or Johan/Joholva had pursuit, i could understand this but it seams that this would only affect enemies. I guess it would make characters like arden and finn double more easily so there's that. 19: Reignhart gets too much love for doing absolutly nothing. I know its because of heroes but i still don't get it. As for Amalda, i'm open for a few FE5 characters showing up in Gen 2 as long as you can deploy every unit you have. 21/23: It may make them way to broken, but improved range for these two would make them more viable. 28: I don't know about this one. I feel like it would alter the dynamic of seliph and Julia too much. This could also mean you could pair Lief and Seliph which just seems...... wrong. 32: LOL. Fire emblem needs for easter eggs, although i would love for IS to create an actual timeline for FE. 36: I will have to disagree with this one. FE4 is dark and morbid and i really think it needs to stay that why, incest, murder and all. Everything else i'm indifferent to or not sure how they would affect the game. Nice list! You have never played Thracia. If you played the game you would know there is a million reasons to love Reinhardt, there's a difference to the love he gets from heroes to the love he SHOULD get from Thracia. In heroes, he is loved for no reason other than "oo character good I'm funny" where as in Thracia there is a genuinely good character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forseti Spaghetti Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 3:28 PM, gamefrig said: 1. the critical skill gives 15+skill% percent chance to preform a critical 2. noish has adept instead of accost 3. arden has a new skill (leave suggestions) 4. armors and mages have +1 move 5. fire tomes have 6 extra might and deal effective damage against armors and mounted units (so it makes since that alvis beat sigurd) 6. nihil negates all skills and effective attacks (thank god pavis in not has annoying) 7. non sword or infantry units can use luna. solar and astra 8. reclasing costs a lot of gold 9. thunder tomes have -5 weight and give the critical skill 10.axes have there weight reduced by 7 11 lances have -5 weight 12. heros have b axes and get weight -3 13. master knight have a light and a dark 14. nihil and vantage rings 15. sigurd has aether 16. tiltyu joins at 10th level and has better bases 17. non boss enemies have personal skills 18.more bonus scenes depending on your rank 19. olwen because Reinhardt is to popular 20. hard mode because fe 4 is easy 21. jamke has bow range +4 22. midir has bowrange +1 23. brigid has bow range + 6 24. princes can use lances 25. aidean has bow range +3 and miracle 26. the sons inherit there fathers hair color where has the daughters hair color is of there mothers 27. you can buy hair dyes at castles 28. female seliph ( with sliver hair and staff utility but worse stats) 29. no incest pairings corpell should never be able to use the valkire staff 30. a alternate ending if you input the konami code where Sigurd doges alvis attack and lands a tyrfang critical 31. that boss that reks midir actually has the critical skill 32. Claude meets Claude secret event ( you must turn your switch upside down near a tree in chapter 5) 33.wind magic has +2 might and is effective against fliers 34. aura has 1 weight 35. you get a light tome in chapter 4 36. comedy mode where the entire tone of the game changes to that of a parody 37. villages on hard give half as much money 38. more civilians to save 39. more Easter egg chacters in the arena 40. diedres stuff is moved to pawnsho[ 41. you always get the nosfratu tome in chapter 6 42. Remove Ferry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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