Speculation: Can Dragon Essence be Transferred to a Human?

[vanguard333]

Traditionally in FE games, humans can gain a small portion of a dragon's power by drinking dragon blood. In Engage, it is possible for one dragon of a particular group (let's say group A) to transform a dragon of another group (group B) into a dragon of group A through a transfer of dragon essence, at the cost of some of the first dragon's lifespan.

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For the example in this game, the first dragon is Lumera, the second dragon is Alear, group A is divine dragons, and group B is fel dragons.

 

So, here's my question: can a similar essence transfer be done to a human? If so, what would be the main differences between this and a human drinking dragon blood? How much essence would need to be transferred for the effects to become noticeable for the human?

Edited May 15, 2023 by vanguard333

[Acacia Sgt]

I'd think this is something that would change depending on the setting (just like how the dragon blood thing also seems to be not quite the same across the series). But sticking to Engage's, perhaps we can still take Alear as an example of what a human could gain if imbued with Divine Dragon essence. As in, ability to call forth Emblems, use weapons only Divine Dragons can wield, etc. Perhaps even conjure Fabrications as well, even if Alear never did that.

Now, as to whether it could be possible to begin with... who knows. Feels that it's more... metaphysical than the blood thing.

Edited May 9, 2023 by Acacia Sgt

[Jotari]

It took Alear 1,000 years to become half in half between the two. You're simply not going to have enough time to do it to a human with any appreciable amount of difference. Unless the dragon can just kill themself to really speed up the process.

[Acacia Sgt]

6 hours ago, Jotari said:

It took Alear 1,000 years to become half in half between the two. You're simply not going to have enough time to do it to a human with any appreciable amount of difference. Unless the dragon can just kill themself to really speed up the process.

Of course, that assumes the process truly is lengthy, or it was just Lumera doing it sloooooowly. You have to factor the thousand year nap had more to do with recovering from being wounded than the essence transfer process itself.

It's worth pointing out (Fell Xenologue spoilers)

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Rafal only had to do the essence transfer to Nel the one time, and Nel still spent a thousand years recovering.

 

Edited May 12, 2023 by Acacia Sgt

[Jotari]

On 5/12/2023 at 11:06 PM, Acacia Sgt said:

Of course, that assumes the process truly is lengthy, or it was just Lumera doing it sloooooowly. You have to factor the thousand year nap had more to do with recovering from being wounded than the essence transfer process itself.

It's worth pointing out (Fell Xenologue spoilers)

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Rafal only had to do the essence transfer to Nel the one time, and Nel still spent a thousand years recovering.

 

 

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Did it say it was just the once? Because I think going to the bother of the thousand year time frame was to make it a parallel to Alear, ie the same thing is happening.

 

[Acacia Sgt]

7 hours ago, Jotari said:

 

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Did it say it was just the once? Because I think going to the bother of the thousand year time frame was to make it a parallel to Alear, ie the same thing is happening.

 

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It's not outright stated, but the intent is different.

Lumera was outright pouring all her essence into Alear through the thousand years. Meanwhile, Rafal only transferred enough to save Nel, and that was it. It's telling that Rafal is not weakened after the thousand years, unlike Lumera. So it's clear the thousand year naps are not related to the essence transfer. Only for the healing process.

 

Edited May 14, 2023 by Acacia Sgt

[Jotari]

2 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

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It's not outright stated, but the intent is different.

Lumera was outright pouring all her essence into Alear through the thousand years. Meanwhile, Rafal only transferred enough to save Nel, and that was it. It's telling that Rafal is not weakened after the thousand years, unlike Lumera. So it's clear the thousand year naps are not related to the essence transfer. Only for the healing process.

 

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Not weakened? So he can transform into a nine square unit that can destroy the battlefield when you use him as a player character?

 

[Acacia Sgt]

1 minute ago, Jotari said:

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Not weakened? So he can transform into a nine square unit that can destroy the battlefield when you use him as a player character?

 

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He can.

The game just doesn't let us, because Nel's dragonstone has shattered. If we could use all the pieces at once, Rafal could likely still use his wish-granted power. Since there's no indication it went away.

 

[Jotari]

12 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

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He can.

The game just doesn't let us, because Nel's dragonstone has shattered. If we could use all the pieces at once, Rafal could likely still use his wish-granted power. Since there's no indication it went away.

 

No indication it's there either though.

[Acacia Sgt]

8 minutes ago, Jotari said:

No indication it's there either though.

We can't know for sure, yes. Still, there's more evidence the reason is external to Rafal: the shattered dragonstone, than it is internal.

[Jotari]

2 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

We can't know for sure, yes. Still, there's more evidence the reason is external to Rafal: the shattered dragonstone, than it is internal.

I don't see anything to suggest the process was any different. It never says Rafal wasn't doing it continuously and everything Alear says suggests it's an identical process. Nel's Dragonstone shattering also shouldn't have any impact on Rafal's powers pre or post the time skip, as that's an entirely different persons Dragonstone he just carries. Furthermore, why would Rafal not do the process continually? It's not like he needs to change Nel's nature, as Lumeria did to Alear. Nel is already a Fell Dragon, so giving her essence isn't done to change her, just to make her live. So giving her more essence to heal her over time, as we've seen work with Alear, would be a logical choice. If the game intended for the take away that Rafal only needed to do it once to act like a defibrillator then it would have been very easy to include a lone attesting to that, and, indeed, it would have made the plot point easier to swallow as it would have allowed for a shorter time frame for the skip. But they didn't include any such line about only needing to do it once, instead they make direct allusion to Alear's healing and give it the exact same time frame and method for Nel's healing. Occum's razor suggests it's the same.

[Leoerus]

in FE 7 Nergal did something similar. Yes this isnt the same game and universe, but given what Lumera did and the fact that there was a precedence for this to happen.