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  1. On 9/6/2019 at 9:11 PM, CyberNinja said:

    Bit of a digression but I thought of something funny

    Someone did a comparison of how similar Edelgard is to Rhea. Considered them perfect foils in a way.

    In Seteth's supports with Bernadetta you learn that Saint Indech was dreadfully shy and quite skilled with fine detail work... like Bernadetta... who bears his Crest.

    In Lindhart's supports with Flayn he describes many of the traits of Cethlean (who is Flayn) he also has many of these traits... and bears Flayn's crest.

    So someone noticed how similar Edelgard is to Seiros

    Sorry what crest does Edelgard naturally bear?

    Oh right! Rhea's crest,

    Food for thought.

    They clearly wanted you to notice this. Edelgard uses the Sword of Seiros on routes other than Crimson Flower, and the choreography of the scene with her clashing blades with the avatar in Silver Snow loosely mirrors the intro cutscene between Seiros and Nemesis- with Edelgard filling the role of Serios.

     

    What Rhea does in the final map of Crimson Flower also very directly mirrors one of Edelgard’s actions (involving Bernadetta if you didn’t recruit her) in Azure Moon, Not!CF Edelgard is given several lines of dialogue that directly mirror some of Rhea’s, and a lot more I am still noticing as I am playing through the last two routes of the game for me, Verdant Wind and Silver Snow.

     

    The game has a very clear message; Edelgard, at her worst, becomes like Rhea. The game does NOT treat Rhea as a favorable comparison. It treats her essentially as a lunatic on many occasions. Even her support line makes her out to be creepy and possibly unstable, particularly the A support where she obsesses and fawns over the avatar like a doll.

     

    As someone who’s delved into FE translations extensively, what also caught my eye is the fact many small bits of Rhea’s dialogue are similar to or perhaps even identical to Eremiya’s (I’ve been meaning to check the Japanese text of the specific lines in Three Houses once I finish the game completely to see if they’re just similar or identical in the Japanese version), particularly keywords shared between them such as people becoming “worthless garbage” when they step out of line. You know, the crazy Bishop who groomed kids to become killers, which is something at least alluded to by some of the “first kill” comments in chapter 2 when your class goes after the bandits, such as Dorothea’s.

     

    Rhea is, at the very best, morally gray, and the game does not mince words with this by demonizing Not!CF Edelgard using comparisons to Rhea.

  2. Kind of a weird question maybe but here it goes.

     

    if I want to ignore the “timeskip costume swap” feature, will characters automatically switch to their aged up forms when I get to part 2 in a New Game Plus? Or do I have to manually switch everyone once I get to part 2?

     

    if it’s the latter, that would border on being a dealbreaker for me. I like all the other features so far but if it stops aging up characters “naturally” when you go into part 2 even if you wanna ignore the costume swap then I don’t know about it anymore

  3. 1 hour ago, eclipse said:

    This wouldn't be the first time this has happened.  IMO if you want to pre-order from Gamestop, go into the store and do it.

    At the risk of sounding stupid; what precisely is different/better about doing it in store? Is it just so you have a name to point a finger at or is there more to it than that?

    every time I’ve done it in my local stores, they seem to usually just pull up the website

    (they also tend to not know what their actual stock is here. I had a huge issue getting the Labo VR starter kit because of that)

  4. 10 minutes ago, Bloom said:

    Did you do it online or in store?

    I ordered it online back when they first came available basically immediately, and I made sure like four times everything was correct on my end before finalizing the order just to try and minimize or eliminate the chance of error on my part. I do have the order number still but idk if that will even do me any good at this point since they’ve already more or less washed their hands of it and said “well there’s nothing we can do I guess”.

     

    if there’s anything I could try on my end I’m all ears but as far as I’ve been informed they’ve basically trashed the whole order and it’s now null.

    I’ve heard of this happening to other people before in the past but I guess part of me didn’t expect it to happen in 2019.

     

    Edit: a friend suggested GameStop oversold the SoW edition. I’m half suspecting this, so if there starts being an epidemic of GameStop pre orders being cancelled like this, just be warned I guess

  5. Title says it all.

    I pre ordered Seasons of Warfare from GameStop back in like... February/March. Just now got an email saying my pre order was cancelled. Spent like three hours on the phone with customer service to basically be told “sucks to be you” and not be given any real reason for the cancelation.

    I’m mostly numb because I expected some kind of bullshit to go down but I was dumb enough to stay on the ship to try and get those pins.

    I have made quite the tactical error.

    Anyone else been having issues with their pre orders? I really hope nothing got localized exclusively by the SoW goodies

  6. On 8/27/2018 at 8:08 AM, omegaxis1 said:

    So with Legendary Marth out, we can say the official localization of the Shield of Seals... is Binding Shield. So guess the original translation of that works.

    It also did not go unnoticed, but the country Marth makes out of merging the nations of Archanea is also now “The Archanean Alliance” instead of the United Kingdom of Archanea. And War of Heroes is official now, too- War of Shadows first showed up in Warriors, and gets reaffirmed here.

  7. On 7/2/2018 at 8:59 AM, Reck said:

    Hi, and thanks for your work here. I just want to know if I need to apply both updates or just the beta2?

    The patch isn’t finished; all of the updates being worked on and discussed are for Beta 3, as well as the vast majority of the dialogue corrections and updates. Beta 2 is a little over a year out of date.

    If you want to patch the game you need to patch Beta 2 to a rom that has already been patched with the HoS patch, and then the game will have the Beta 2 release.

    However, that said, beta 2 is still a year out of date; it is nowhere near reflective of the work that has been going on.

  8. FE12 content keeps coming to Fire Emblem Heroes, slowly but surely. While a new character has not been added, as was the case with Fallen Hardin, instead we have a smaller but still important note in the form of an item update:

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    Like Clarisse's Bow and Legion's Axe before it, Reese's Tome (named "Hellfire" in the older versions of the fan translation) has been added to Fire Emblem Heroes as Katarina's personal weapon, to be retroactively added to her learnset sometime around July 8th. In FE12, this weapon was one of the rare character-based items one could acquire from the Barracks function. With this news, it is safe to assume Intelligent Systems will add other FE12 character items to Archanean units when they need to buff them, such as Ogma's Blade or Roderick's Lance. We will be keeping a close eye on any further developments in Heroes, especially considering the recent, suspicious slew of Archanean characters getting new personal weapons or forge options for their existing personal weapons. 

    Astute readers and players may in fact notice the Japanese reads Katarina's Tome, not Reese's Tome; the use of Reese instead was a change by the localization team here. This is likely because "Katarina's Tome" simply will not fit as a name in Heroes; and all the better, it wouldn't fit in FE12 either. However, "Reese's Tome" fits perfectly in both Heroes and FE12.

    On a similar note, this localization choice also implies "Merric's Tome" as another localized name for a different weapon; that name fits and has also been implemented.

    Further progress and developments will be posted; rest assured that this patch is not dead.

  9. 48 minutes ago, MCProductions said:

    Having played the game in Japanese, I legitimately can't disagree more. FE12 is Kris' game start to finish, Kris is the protagonist of 12, Marth is an important character but still plays second fiddle to the Avatar Kris, to the point where Marth is NOT EVEN PRESENT in plot crucial scenes in the remake where he was in the original, such as when the characters learn the truth of Archenea's history. There's many reasons I consider Kris the biggest sin FE has ever done, and the butchering of Marth's character and FE3's themes are big reasons why.

    Learning the truth of Archanea’s history is literally exclusively between Marth and Xane/Gotoh in the remake during those segments. I am fairly certain you are confused. The only thing Kris is told are things everyone already knows, mainly the Anri legend which everyone and their mother except Kris seems to know in Altea (I.E. things which would be overly redundant to be told to Marth, like that scene in FE11 where he has to chide Malledus "Is that what this was all about? I do know my own country's history, Malledus"). Kris doesn’t get taken aside by xane or Gotoh at any point and told some super exclusive information (shit, Xane actually mocks the avatar and dupes them into wearing a pointless Headdress because he thought it’d be hilarious, and that outside of their supports and the first meeting when he’s disguised as Tiki is the extent of their interactions).

    come to think, I don’t think Gotoh and the avatar ever even speak to each other.

     

    we spend literal days on each individual chapter (once I think we went up to a week and a half on one specific chapter) with meticulous cross referencing between up to 5 localized games at once, retranslation with multiple Japanese proofreaders having it run by, and Cirosan’s expertise in the English language being applied. I again say to wait until the patch is done, and I do hope the amount of effort in the result ends up being appreciated.

  10. 56 minutes ago, GamerX51 said:

    I'm not trying to be insulting here, but I think that would be a terrible idea. The entire point of having a self-insert avatar in a game is to allow the player to feel that they are part of the story; that their decisions are having an impact on the game's plot, even if it is just an illusory impact created by the writers. Making Kris a "silent protagonist" (or nearly silent), would defeat the entire purpose of an avatar character.  Kris should and must have a significant role in the story of any remake of 12; taking that away would take away the feeling of inclusion that a self-insert provides to the player. 

    That said, I do think that Kris' role in the plot should be refined so that he doesn't make Marth look Insignificant - Marth is the hero of the story after all, and that should be apparent in the game's dialogue.

    I do think you should probably wait until the patch is released; as it turns out, the older translation inadvertently amped up the Gary Stuness of the avatar by a great deal in the prologue alone, before we’ve even gotten into the rest of the game. I’d probably wait to analyze Kris’s role compared to Marth again once we can put this out, because even at the bare minimum the more correct “one of my royal guards” is already a hell of a lot less Stuish than “my one and only Royal Guard who is the awesome one and only” that the older translation somehow (and inconsistently) got

     

    FE12 is really, really focused on Marth; Kris is pretty largely someone who Marth is propped up on (with Kris being among Lucina in the list of Marth fanclub presidents), but the older translation seems to unintentionally make this seem the other way around 90% of the time. Even in the prologue alone, 2 very important conversations concerning Marth had to be redone or completely retranslated from scratch because of how off the mark they were tonally speaking.

  11. 12 hours ago, GamerX51 said:

    I really like what I see so far! :wub: My only real complaint (if it could be called that) is Luke's informal speech patterns. If I remember correctly from one of his base convos, he's supposed to be from minor nobility, since he was forced to join the knights by his family to make up for the fact that his older brother couldn't. Should his speech really be that informal? I find it rather jarring, considering his family background.

    Look at Fire Emblem Heroes. Luke has a minor tendency to refer to himself as “The Luke” and all of the dialogue I decided to sample are things which are quoted directly in Heroes; as in, the Japanese version of Fire Emblem heroes has either the exact same or a paraphrased version of the dialogue as it is in FE12 and I am simply applying the localization of this dialogue Treehouse used for Heroes onto that same dialogue in FE12 for 100% consistency seeing as that’s the point of the patch, in addition to cleaning up some errors or odd phrasing. In the cases of paraphrasing where Heroes doesn’t 1:1 quote something and mixes around the quote (say, for example, one line of Marth’s dialogue fuses 2 or more of his quotes) it’s approximated to be as accurate as possible to the Japanese text while still keeping intact the paraphrased portion that was localized in heroes.

     

    the explanation the above poster posited about him wanting to be his own person/run on his own steam (as mentioned in his support with Roderick, like you said) and thus being a bit of a rebel is probably the reasoning behind his personality. He even outright ditches the knights in his ending.

     

    sorry if I’m not explaining this well, but there’s that as well as cleaning up errors like Wrys’s lack of explanation for leaving the party due to a minor mistranslation or grammatical errors in the dialogue. I’ve had a very good editor to assist me with these last bits, I’m mostly concerned with making sure everything parses well with heroes and doing menu related work (which I feel like menu work is 80% done at this point at least, with the big holdups being graphics)

     

    of course, we are also putting the same amount of effort and applying it to consistency with Echoes, Awakening, And Warriors in places where it is applicable.

  12. Alright, progress update I guess; the Prologue of FE12 has been finalized as far as text is concerned. The main outstanding issue for the prologue portion of the game remains the tutorial slide related graphics, which are a bit difficult to figure out how to edit. However, the prologue has been applied an updated translation which acknowledges lines of dialogue quoted or paraphrased in both Awakening, Heroes, and Warriors, as well as fixing up grammatical and translation related errors for what is hopefully a drastically improved and easier to understand experience overall, for both new and veteran players of the series. Cirosan in particular has been a huge help with assisting the creation of these edits, and we hope to have further progress to report in the very near future. Some samplings of dialogue from the prologue chapters-
     

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    Aside from that, work has begun on the BSFE and DLC chapters, which will end up being a slightly smaller workload than the prologue at seven chapters and no base conversations. The biggest goal is to make sure the end result is both accessible, consistent with Awakening/Heroes/Warriors where Japanese dialogue is quoted/paraphrased and translated into English, and free of translation induced inconsistencies or plot holes, both in FE12 itself and removing or reconciling inconsistencies between things such as Shadow Dragon and Awakening to the best of our ability. I sincerely hope that, when the time comes, everyone who takes a stab at this patch enjoys the finalized product, as it is the result of much manpower and meticulous dialogue cross referencing between up to 6 different games.

  13. On 2/17/2018 at 11:09 PM, LucarioGamer812 said:

    I wasn't fully sure on how they were unlocked but makes sense. Well thanks for the link and confirmation on stuff, I myself have no use for it as I already beat FE12 but others can use it. I have never heard of spoofing the internet connection and doubt I could do it so Shadow Dragon will remain basic for me.

    It pretty much only involves an Action Replay cart. It’s very, very simple to do if you have the gear for it and a bit of knowing how to set up DS internet; in the case of a flashcart running a rom, it’s even easier because you can just patch the rom directly on your flashcart and bypass the need for codes entirely.

  14. 12 minutes ago, Viewbob said:

    Is there any efficient way to play this on original hardware? Maybe even a 3ds?

    Flashcart compatibility is something I’ve had at the front of my mind for the entire duration of development of this patch since I am planning on personally using the patch in that manner myself. I’ve been trying to have people I know with DS flashcarts test the patch where they can, but really it all comes down to not having a shitty flashcart.

     

    Can’t give you any links, I don’t think, but I’m sure you can find a few message boards if you search something like “what DS flashcart should I use?”. The current plan is optimization for real hardware in the final patch version, which will definitely make things smoother when run on an emulator too in theory.

  15. 1 hour ago, Cor Leonis said:

    Just out of curiosity, are you implying the only changes we should expect out of a Beta 3 release be related the Prologue translation and GUI? It sounds like there have been a plentiful amount of changes that should also be tested by players. I very much appreciate all the endeavors the team has gone through, but you guys shouldn't get too held up combing through everything by yourselves. Typos, grammatical errors, glitches, and overflowing textboxes can sometimes be more easily be found by players than in editing software or a spreadsheet.

    No, but I am saying that's what we've done so far. It has not been a speedy process. I plan to have Beta 3 released to the wild once all of the main game dialogue and supports are proofread and gone through, then sift through them from there; the plan as of writing is for Beta 4 to be more intensive things such as graphics that need to be edited in obscure places (though quite a few easier to change ones have already been done). I do have a small group of people testing as we go along, including myself where I can, but I absolutely do want anyone to report issues that aren't "caught by the fishnet" once Beta 3 is live.

    Beta 3 is going to be pretty much every bit of textual dialogue in the game at this rate; however, I could see it being released with just the Prologue, BSFE, and Prelude/DLC chapter dialogue done if it's decided upon. Beta 3 will also have at least a large portion of the user interface updated, as well as item descriptions; the Tomahawk and Spear, which in this game are enemy only, are an example of an item description I am particularly worried about being displayed correctly with the updated description and coding and will probably want tested in the wild due to the difficulty in getting to read those descriptions ingame.

    Some problem areas of note include the tutorial images which are displayed ingame, save file turn count display, and parts of the character index (as well as sorting that alphabetically). I hope to have many or all of these issues resolved before we push out Beta 3; Beta 4 is planned to be reserved for the most difficult to achieve edits, but no promises that won't be a beta 5, I suppose.

  16. 2 hours ago, Emperor Hardin said:

    Your welcome, that is what I use.

    I'm not sure I'll get the new translation though, seems the changes are too small, I'll probably stick with my Roro translation.

    We have basically torn the entire thing apart since beta 3. Lots of revisions where things were translated in Awakening/Heroes/Warriors, lots of grammatical corrections, and fixing quite a few minor translation induced continuity or character errors here and there; all of which is chiefly to be in line with official localizations. It’s been slow progress, but there will definitely be a very noticeable bump in quality compared to the previous revision.

     

    also, I’ve overhauled the menu interface to be consistent with how it is in Shadow Dragon, and corrected item descriptions to be much the same- lots of testing to make sure everything works fine, though, and there’s a few annoying stragglers in terms of the menu interface to deal with.

    i wouldn’t say Beta 2 is reflective of what the patch will end up with at this point; it misses a lot of localization corrections even as it is currently. Archanea has had the good fortune of getting a lot of coverage in Awakening, Heroes, and Warriors to go off of, which means many things (most prominently support conversations, but pretty much all of Hardin’s FE12 dialogue is localized at this point via the other games) are ammended to be consistent with localized games. Legion is definitely the most prominent change here, but Heroes helped a lot with codifying some nuances for certain characters in official localization.

     

    basically, please give Beta 3 at least one go whenever it comes out; not sure how long that will be, as the fine tooth comb has been going a bit slower than anticipated, but a lot of effort was put into cleaning things up to be consistent; not just names, but phrases, nuances, etc. are being cross referenced for consistency with localization as thoroughly as possible.

  17. 5 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:

    The old DeSmuME I had seemed to be able to work with the .rar stuff, and there wasn't any zips on them like other files. 

    Know a good place I can download that 7-zip program for Mac?

    7 Zip has an official site (.org). It shows up with a quick search, first result generally. If there's nothing for Mac there, try digging around with a search engine; just be smart about where you look. There's also other programs for opening .rar files you can look into, like the Unarchiver on the mac app store.

  18. 11 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:

    Hey guys, need some help. The new version 0.9.11 DeSmuME emulator I downloaded for my Mac laptop doesn't seem to load any rom that isn't .nds so I can't play any of the games that are .rar or such. Anyone lend me a hand?

    .rar is a compressed file, not an emulator file. .nds files are DS rom files. You need a program like 7-Zip to open up a rar file and extract it; are you trying to run the ROM, or the patch? Either way, whatever file you're trying to run is essentially in a special folder (.rar file) that needs to be unpacked using a special program like 7-Zip.

    I plan to make an update post very soon, we're almost completely done with revisions to the prologue as far as we can see and are soon to start bug testing the prologue chapters. Great time and care was put into clean up and proofreading, as well as retranslation where needed and making dialogue that was translated in Heroes consistent in the patch (or in cases where it was simply paraphrased dialogue rearranged in Heroes, making it as correctly approximated as possible). Awakening and Warriors were also used as reference points where relevant.

    I'm not exaggerating when I say about 50% of the dialogue in Heroes for Archanean characters comes from their appearances in the FE12 Prologue, if they featured in it. Most prominently, a lot of their introductions to the avatar were adapted into their summoning quotes for a very large majority of these characters, including but not limited to Cain, Katarina, and Roderick off the top of my head; others like Jeorge had only part of their introduction incorporated into FEH.

  19. 5 minutes ago, King Marth 64 said:

    I managed to obtained Hardin in the summoning in Fire Emblem Heroes and I got him around in Lv. 34. I don't see him mentioning any stuff that appeared to be new localized names that were from New Mystery of the Emblem. I'll see if I can get him up to Lv. 40 and see if he mentions anything in his Lv. 40 conversation where he explains to Kiran.

    Other than that, the only names that I think they only showed up in Hardin's profile were his "Dark Emperor" title and he did mentioned about the Dark Sphere and Archanean Imperial Army in his home base conversation. Also, I noticed that Hardin mentions in his conversation that saids: "Emperor of the Holy Empire of Archanea" under in "My name is Hardin, Emperor of the Holy Empire of Archanea. If you do not wish to be scarred by my fury, you will give me your name in return.". I'm pretty sure if I recall correctly in Shadow Dragon that Archanea was called "Holy Kingdom" unless it have been changed in Mystery of the Emblem's plot since Hardin did married to Nyna after the events of Shadow Dragon.

    Yes, Hardin reorganizes the Holy Kingdom into a Holy Empire during the plotline. I've already done all of Hardin's localized dialogue from Heroes, so far. I'm currently ensuring all dialogue is consistent with Heroes in addition to graphics work that is being done

  20. 13 hours ago, joesteve1914 said:

    I really only started this because the other project I was working on was stalled for a bit while we waited for a new graphics editor.

    This strikes me as ironic somehow.

     

    Yes, Hopefully the Beta 3 patch revision will be out soon; I’m thinking a month or so at this rate, assuming everything is optimized properly? I’m going to err on the side of caution and say two months.

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    Hardin has made his debut in Fire Emblem Heroes, based on his appearance as Emperor Hardin in New Mystery of the Emblem (with his art more specifically referencing the blue aura shown around him in Chapter 8), so the patch will be updated to accommodate any dialogue localizations or other changes associated with hardin in Fire Emblem Heroes.

    progress on the patch is continuing to proceed despite difficulties in updating certain graphics.

  22. 48 minutes ago, Sir Ragnell said:

    That's a good suggestion, I admit.

    Yeah, I'm looking forward to that patch. How's progress by the way?

    Also I must confess. I've been working on this alone non-stop and I think I need a break.

    But seriously, thank you for telling me this.

     

    There's a ton of progress that's been done already. The main thing holding it back is menu graphics as the one guy who was able to do them has been somewhat inactive and it's essentially been doing everything else except the menu graphics slowly but surely until it can happen. Which has piled up to quite a lot of work having been done and a lot of work continuing to be done on account of dialouge being quoted wholesale or paraphrased in Heroes and Warriors or on account of closer examination of things like the aforementioned Gemstone issue.

    Very steady progress, just held back from proper release by things that aren't actual text.

  23. At this point I might seriously suggest waiting for the updated patch, given something you're fast headed towards. Jagen doesn't say five orbs, he says five gemstones (same term awakening uses) here in the source text.

    Too many important minor details like this are there to where I would probably suggest to wait until everything is sorted out translation wise because there is actually a lot...

  24. latest?cb=20140720122433 I have several to things present in this discussion currently.

    Marth and Elice's dialogue is subject to a tad bit of misinterpretation in the original translation. There was extensive discussion over it and the source phrases; in the original Japanese version, Elice is using a term that essentially has the inflection of "softhearted", "tender", "caring", etc; "weak" is a pretty literal translation of the term that brings Elice pretty ooc in the first place.

    More over, the conversation had with Elice, when the source text is examined more closely, provides one of the most important looks into Marth's character- so important that Tiki echoes the discussion with Lucina in Awakening.

     

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    "Hero-King" you say...? It does seem that the people have grown fond of calling him that. But the truth of the matter is that Marth... Marth is a tender, sensitive young man...
    Yes. Of course, he is the hero of the previous war who defeated Medeus in the final battle.
    But Marth is a young man who holds firmly to his high ideals. And, as you too know, the real world... cannot be saved with merely ideals.
    Even as we speak, somewhere unknown to us, people's lives are being lost... Marth, he cannot save those people.
    Yes, that's right. Most people accept this, and compromise ideals with reality.  But he cannot do that... he truly wants to save everyone. In war, if even one ally dies, it is unbearable for him... He suppresses his feelings with all his willpower, but inside, his heart breaks and bleeds...

    This... is the entire blasted point of Marth. Marth holds himself to an unrealistic standard and never thinks of himself; this is why in Shadow Dragon, the thought of marrying Caeda doesn't even cross his mind until Nyna verbally slaps him; why, in Heroes, his main ability with his forged Falchion is for supporting other units, why, in Warriors, Marth has battle quotes talking about protecting everyone ("For the sake of us all!" etc), and, most importantly, why THIS happens in Awakening:
     

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    Lucina: It's more than idle curiosity. I should know more of the man whose name I once took as my own. Who was the real Marth? Are the stories of his deeds true? What was he like?

    Tiki: One thing I can tell you is that he treasured his friends like no one else I've known. He was kind, considerate, and calm. And despite his station, quick with a smile.

    Lucina: Really?!

    Tiki: You sound surprised...

    Lucina: I just didn't expect the mighty King Marth to be so... er, nice.

    Tiki: And how DID you imagine him?

    Lucina: The Marth of history led the liberators and smashed the power of evil dragons! He brought peace to the entire world at the edge of a sword. He must've been a fierce, unforgiving man who struck fear in friend and foe alike! How could he not have been, when he was forced to wage such a terrible war?

    Tiki: ...I suppose he was unforgiving—at least when it came to himself. He never stopped looking for a way to lead the world to peace. And every victim and sacrifice on that path haunted him...

    Marth is well aware of the fact that people die in war- he says as much at the end of FE12 during the final map- he isn't quite Corrin. But Marth sees it as his own failure when he fails to save an ally, or even an enemy in many respects. Marth is the kind of person who holds himself to a higher standard; and his insistence on not letting anyone die unless there is no other option is one of THE most central traits of his character, and it is by far not just limited to FE12. it's alluded to in Shadow Dragon, Awakening, Heroes, even freaking Warriors

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    Marth:
    “…Well, I will find a way! You cannot expect me to agree to…to abandon one of our own to a death at the hands of the enemy.”
    -Shadow Dragon

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     I would like to think we are similar. My own advisor, Jagen, would often caution me against yielding to sentiment. I know he was right, but it never felt proper to leave soldiers behind. I do not want to pay for my victories with the lives of subjects and friends. 
    -Awakening

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    I cannot allow a single one of my friends to die. Together, you and I, with everyone else, will win this war.
    I don't want anyone to die. Surely you feel the same way.
    -Heroes

    And, finally, the last piece of the puzzle:
     

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    Many Alteans sacrificed their lives in the
    previous war. I couldn't save them...
    That's something I must never forget.When my comrades get hurt and fall, I can't help but feel pain...
    Even if I'm deluding myself...
    I don't want to let even a single one of my comrades die.
    If one sacrifices few to save many,
    that was the correct decision to take.
    I understand that, too. But... I don't want that.
    Having to sacrifice subjects and friends... Maybe I'm unfit to be king..
    Perhaps it's a naive way to think... But, that's how I really feel.
    And I can't betray my feelings.

    -New Mystery of the Emblem


    However, it should also be emphasized that Marth knows full well that he cannot save everyone- he simply refuses to allow himself to use that as an excuse to not try. Marth is holding himself to an impossible standard; he refuses to not try and save everyone, even though he knows it is a futile effort. And this is because of his characteristic , almost christ-like compassion and his severe lack of self concern. According to Tiki, he took this to his grave.

    Quote

    Some call me the Hero-King, but perhaps you should temper your expectations. I'm just a man who was inspired to fight by the best of comrades.
    -Awakening

    Quote

    I am no Hero-King. I only stopped the war thanks to my many allies.
    Over all the battles we've fought together, I have come to see my own powerlessness.
    As but one, I cannot accomplish anything. Together, we can face everything.
    -Heroes

    Marth thinks less of himself and more of others. This is why in the ending he says "my deeds are being spoken of as something I've done alone"; Marth does not view himself as worthy of the praise he is given. This is, again, something emphasized in literally just about every game featuring Marth- one of his defining characteristics.

    Also, as for the thing with Clarisse and Katarina, she was talking about the 7th Platoon in the original context. So "Kris and the others" is perfectly justified when talking about the 7th Platoon specifically.

    A lot of the changes made here just strike me as being fairly tone deaf to some degree about Marth and who he is, and why he's an inspiring person not just to Archanea's inhabitants but many Fire Emblem fans as well. I don't want to offend anyone by pointing this out, but I feel like it had to be said before this continues on.

  25. On 1/29/2018 at 1:21 PM, Clent said:

    Hello there!

    i so wanted to sing this song so I ask FEH to give it to me the official lyrics and here there are, just enjoy ;)

     

    • Fire Emblem
      Your spirit shall shine
      Across the generations
      Now and for all time

      Fire Emblem
      Heroes, bring us hope’s light
      Journey from distant worlds
      To still the coming night

      With sacred relic at your side
      See our champions fall from on high
      In this land where timeless heroes live
      And their legends never die

      Fire Emblem
      Brave heroes of the ages
      With my design and your hearts true
      We’ll start anew

      The end is within our reach
      Take up my fight as I beseech
      To kingdoms ravaged by senseless war
      Bring us peace forevermore

      The strong, the weak, the brave, the meek
      All shall fight for the light we seek
      Hear my voice, brave heroes, hear my plea
      Come to me, come set us free

      Fire Emblem
      Your spirit shall shine
      Across the generations
      Now and for all time

    Fire Emblem
    Heroes, bring us hope’s light
    Journey from distant worlds
    To still the coming night

    I would like a source cited for this

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