We need an FE8 sequel

[solrocknroll]

Maybe it's just me, but I really don't like Jehanna and would be disappointed if it had the spotlight.

I mean, an orphan trader from Carcino who was orphaned during the war would be much more interesting.

[Ewan101]

Hm, I actually rather like that. I still feel like someone from Jehanna should have a major role, moreso than the last game, but I actually really like that idea. And s/he is bitter at Grado for taking their parents.

[JechtShotMK9]

Whereas I really like this idea, I feel like it would just be repeating the plot from SS (friendly character becomes possessed, awaken the demon king, etc.) with some BD elements in there (former friendly territory from the last game suddenly evil, etc.). If we tweak certain things in the plot, add some new stuff, maybe somebody/something above the demon king, then we have a solid game plot here (and we should start working on a hack.)

Yeah, I get what you're saying. The problem with SS, however, is that, unlike PoR and RD, there isn't really anything hinting at a greater enemy than the big bad of the first game. There are plenty of clues and stuff in PoR that are explained in the sequel, but SS doesn't really have that. It just provides a really good setting.

How about, to shake things up a bit, have an already married lord? I was thinking Tana, married to Ephraim, who could be sent to get aid from Jehanna and Rausten (Ephraim being under the assumption that Innes would never harm his sister.). However, she gets shot down by Frelian troops stationed at the Renais/Jehanna border, and is rescued by the aforementioned group of mercenaries, of which the Main Character of this sequel could be part of (Tana's pegasus would be wounded/killed, and she would be a lance wielding lord until a story event promotion at some point in the game). The first parts of the game could consist of these mercenaries escorting Tana across the desert to Jehanna hall while being hounded by groups of Frelian Pegasus Knights,

They could use this part of the game to delve into Jehanna lore. Personally, I'd find it really interesting if Jehanna did not, like the other countries, have a large standing army, preferring instead to rely on their mercenaries for protection, seeing as fielding a large army in a desert would be hugely impractical.

After making it to the capital, have Joshua be forced to refuse Tana's call for aid, at least at first, due to Jehanna lacking the strength to oppose either Renais or Frelia on its own. But he's willing to commit if they can get aid from Rausten and the remnants of Grado, run by Duessel acting as regent in the absence of any members of the royal family living.

At this point, do like part 4 of RD and split up the group. One group goes north, the other south. The southern path would show the devastation caused by the earthquake and the effect that it had on the populace. It would also be the protagonists' first view of the Fomortiis cult, setting the stage for the later part of the game. Show characters from the previous game helping out (Amelia and Cormag), and have Duessel be an old, ruined wreck of a man, tormented by what has happened under his rule (I'm thinking Theoden from Lord of the Rings in his first appearance.) Have the protagonist assist what's left of the Grado army in driving away bandits attempting to savage what's left of Grado, and this helps Duessel regain his purpose. At this point, he agrees to offer his support.

The Rausten group would be more light-hearted, to balance out the depressingness of the Grado route. Have L'Rachel not be at the capital, so the group has to track her down all over Rausten while she runs around doing her do-goodedness, fending off bandit and pirate attacks. Emphasize the religious nature of Rausten in order to show what the cult is trying to overthrow. After finding L'Rachel, she agrees to offer her support, and both groups rendezvous back in Jehanna.

That's what I've got for part one out of three, I think. I'll throw up ideas for parts two and three later if anyone's interested.

[Ewan101]

That's what I've got for part one out of three, I think. I'll throw up ideas for parts two and three later if anyone's interested.

All of this idea is absolutely genius and I love it.

[Light8791]

Fe8 should have a sequel. What i think should happen is that after the demon king is beaten and the group leaves,the demon king's body turns back to lyon's body and he comes back.he's very confused and slow on his feet in shock.getting back to grado sjould take a month or two.when he comes back rebellion takes place.jehanna has been taken over by a mysterious figure who has taken the appearence of Joshua. And grado has been targeted due to ephriam's double tasking between nations.Lyon being believed dead is caught by the eyes of grado troops.And the story begins...

[Ewan101]

Fe8 should have a sequel. What i think should happen is that after the demon king is beaten and the group leaves,the demon king's body turns back to lyon's body and he comes back.he's very confused and slow on his feet in shock.getting back to grado sjould take a month or two.when he comes back rebellion takes place.jehanna has been taken over by a mysterious figure who has taken the appearence of Joshua. And grado has been targeted due to ephriam's double tasking between nations.Lyon being believed dead is caught by the eyes of grado troops.And the story begins...

I like the idea of Lyon reverting back to normal. He could be the main protagonist this time or something, and at first nobody trusts him because of what he did.

[Elieson]

Considering Hardin came out of nowhere to be the supervillain of his sequel, why can't an existing character within Frelia or Grado succeed as a new villain?

[Aregularforumuser]

I think a prequel would be better. you know the sagas of those heroes l'arachel spoke of? maybe they could do something with that.

[UnknownUber]

It's probally best to expect an Awalening-esque style sequel that takes thousands of years after Sacred Stones...

There's nothing to expand upon with FE8's characters so having thier descendants in a future version of Magvell seems more possible in my opinion. It would be intersting to see IS pull another Tiki and have Myrrh return after thousands of years...

[Oshimos]

The problem with a sequel with characters from Sacred Stones is that it ends up retconning a lot of the pairings. All of the other sequels go out of their way to make sure that paired endings don't cause any problems and could all potentially be canon, but since you can pair up the nobility pretty much however you like, if there's reference to who's ruling where for example, it makes it so that it could easily not flow if you play the two of them back to back.

[LeroyJSmith]

I really liked JechtShotMK9's storyline. It would definitely make for an interesting premise to see the cult uprising and all that. However I do agree with Oshimos that matching characters up (like Tana with Ephraim) for the sequel makes the possible pairings at the end of SS null and void since the sequel would pretty much determines who marries who. Despite this minor issue, I really liked the first part of your story and would love to hear parts 2 and 3.

[JechtShotMK9]

I really liked JechtShotMK9's storyline. It would definitely make for an interesting premise to see the cult uprising and all that. However I do agree with Oshimos that matching characters up (like Tana with Ephraim) for the sequel makes the possible pairings at the end of SS null and void since the sequel would pretty much determines who marries who. Despite this minor issue, I really liked the first part of your story and would love to hear parts 2 and 3.

Thanks, I meant to put something up a while back, but I've been really busy lately. Maybe I can get around to doing it this weekend.

[Book of Ereshkigal]

The problem with a sequel with characters from Sacred Stones is that it ends up retconning a lot of the pairings. All of the other sequels go out of their way to make sure that paired endings don't cause any problems and could all potentially be canon, but since you can pair up the nobility pretty much however you like, if there's reference to who's ruling where for example, it makes it so that it could easily not flow if you play the two of them back to back.

If any children had to appear, just make the parents ambiguous(aside from the important ones like royalty, but still never mention the variable parent). FE6 did this with Roy and Lilina just fine.

Edited August 1, 2014 by L95

[CT075]

the greatest knight of Renais

seth would make a terrible protagonist srsly

[EdeaCreamer]

Prequel's a better idea, IMO. You're not dealing with whether certain given supports are canon (did Eirika get with Saleh or Seth, does Joshua become the king of Jehanna or not, etc..), much less the fact that FE8's Lord character can be changed mid-game.

The Lord character for such a prequel wouldn't necessarily have to be Grado, either. In fact, with over 800 years having passed, it's quite likely history's account of what happened in FE8 isn't entirely correct. The only named heroes out of the core five are Grado and Latona, so there's a lot of room for making up new stuff.

For all we know, Grado starts off as nothing but a villager. Game begins with his village being overrun by some of Fomo's demons/zombies, and he runs for his life carrying nothing but a woodcutter's axe and his freshly-murdered sister's Flux tome. How these end up leading to him wielding Garm and Gleipnir might make for an interesting story.

[KMT4ever]

Prequel's a better idea, IMO. You're not dealing with whether certain given supports are canon (did Eirika get with Saleh or Seth, does Joshua become the king of Jehanna or not, etc..), much less the fact that FE8's Lord character can be changed mid-game.

The Lord character for such a prequel wouldn't necessarily have to be Grado, either. In fact, with over 800 years having passed, it's quite likely history's account of what happened in FE8 isn't entirely correct. The only named heroes out of the core five are Grado and Latona, so there's a lot of room for making up new stuff.

For all we know, Grado starts off as nothing but a villager. Game begins with his village being overrun by some of Fomo's demons/zombies, and he runs for his life carrying nothing but a woodcutter's axe and his freshly-murdered sister's Flux tome. How these end up leading to him wielding Garm and Gleipnir might make for an interesting story.

I like this idea. The world 800 years before FE8 sounds a lot like the Future Past from Awakening, with monsters running amok and humans helpless to defend themselves. Grado could start out with a few fellow survivors, seeking out one of the few remaining bastions of humanity. They realize that they are actually pretty decent warriors along the way, while recruiting fellow survivors to join their band, until reaching a bastion where they are incorporated into the defense force. A huge attack by monsters leaves the humans badly battered, whereupon they realize that there is no mortal means of victory. They decide to go ask the gods for help at some random sacred place, setting out in force. Along the way they gather other strong forces, while Grado and the other four nation-founders ascend to leadership as older and more experienced leaders are killed in battle. Once they get the Sacred Stones, having proven humanity's determination to survive, they are imbued with power (read "promoted") and lead man's combined armies to battle against the Demon King in Darkling Woods, where they slay him in a titanic clash and seal his soul in the Fire Emblem.

[RennacIsUnderrated]

I just think arch or some accomplished hacker needs to make an elibian nights 2 featuring sacred stones with tales etc just like the previous one.

[Paper Jam]

In Knoll and Natasha's supports (and Knoll and Duessel's?), they talked about how in the future after the events of FE8, Grado would be hit by a massive earthquake.

Not just Knoll's supports with Natasha and Duessel. Lyon specifically mentions it at the end of chapter 20:

(Flashback, Lyon, Knoll and Vigarde are in the king’s chamber)

1 year ago

Lyon:

“…Father! Hold on, please! Father!”

Vigarde:

“Lyon… This is… the end for me. From now on… you…”

Lyon:

“Don’t say that, Father.”

Vigarde:

“You must concern yourself… with Grado… The people… our people must be saved… Lyon… tell me again. What will happen to Grado?”

Lyon:

“I have seen it many times now, as have the court mages. It’s the same every time, Father. It’s always the same. Sometime in the coming years, the southern continent will collapse. Countless people will die instantly. Those who don’t will likely starve.”

Vigarde:

“……”

Lyon:

“None but the mages and I know of the vision, as you ordered. But… if we don’t do something, all of those people will die. Please tell me, Father. What should I do? What…”

Vigarde:

“Lyon… When I die… You will be emperor… The emperor… must protect his country. There is nothing more… that I can do. It’s you… You must protect our people.”

Lyon:

“B-but, Father… I don’t have the power… Ah! R-Renais… If I ask Eirika and Ephraim for help, I’m sure they would–“

Vigarde:

“You would ask Renais to rescue us from… a natural disaster? They would not help us… Grado’s borders would overflow with starving refugees by the thousands. Renais would close her borders to us. It’s only natural… Renais has a duty to protect herself.”

Lyon:

“No, that would never–“

Vigarde:

“Lyon… You are the one… who must… save our people. You must take my place… The citizens of Grado… are counting on…you…”

Lyon:

“Father?! No…wait! I cannot do anything without you, Father!”

(Vigarde dies)

Lyon:

“Fa…Father…”

Knoll:

“His Highness…”

Lyon:

“I am…weak. Because I am weak… people will die. I… (The scene change quickly, Lyon and Knoll in the Sacred Stone’s realm)”

Knoll:

“Prince Lyon…”

Lyon:

“Knoll… I… Open the seal on the Sacred Stone of Grado.”

Knoll:

“The Sacred Stone? But that’s…”

Lyon:

“You’ve seen the scrolls. You know there is a way to stop the coming disaster. If those scrolls are correct, the rites they describe can save all of Grado. But it will require a staggering amount of dark energy–and a sacrifice as well. The human body cannot contain the powers these rites demand… And yet… Of the five Sacred Stones, Grado’s alone possesses a greater power… It is the very prison housing the soul of the ancient Demon King. If we could harness its power, well… If we can do that, we can avert disaster and save countless lives.”

Knoll:

“But you forget…”

Lyon:

“I forget nothing! I know I am too weak. Because of me, all of Grado will be destroyed. I need… I need the Sacred Stone. I must become stronger. I will become stronger.”

(Flashback ends)

[Sweet_Basil]

I'm for it.

[Rukathesoldier]

I would love an FE8 prequel. Can we make it happen? Please?

[RennacIsUnderrated]

I would love an FE8 prequel. Can we make it happen? Please?

I would gladly help.

[Mekkah]

A sequel is no fun if the game has already told us what will happen in the future and the Big Evil has already been permanently defeated to the point of no return.

[Paper Jam]

A sequel is no fun if the game has already told us what will happen in the future and the Big Evil has already been permanently defeated to the point of no return.

Well, Sephiran did tell us at the end of Path of Radiance what was going to happen in Radiant Dawn.

Of course, the Big Evil wasn't really defeated at the end of Path of Radiance, so I guess your point stands.

[PikaSamus]

The problem with a sequel with characters from Sacred Stones is that it ends up retconning a lot of the pairings. All of the other sequels go out of their way to make sure that paired endings don't cause any problems and could all potentially be canon, but since you can pair up the nobility pretty much however you like, if there's reference to who's ruling where for example, it makes it so that it could easily not flow if you play the two of them back to back.

IIRC Fir from The Binding Blade is Bartre and Karla's daughter but Bartre can marry other people

Although that's just one character, so it probably doesn't apply here

[RennacIsUnderrated]

It could be a Pompeii style hack where everyone tries to escape the island continent of magvel before it gets obliterated and then they end up in elibe lol