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Hello everyone.

So it's no secret that some supports are better than others, but occasionally, you stumble upon a particularly good or bad support which catches you completely by surprise, so why not talk about them? I think we all have characters we're rather neutral towards but who have either hidden gems or supports that just feel wrong.

Personally, I was surprised by two of Saizou's supports. One of them is great, and the other one is awful:

Saizou/Charlotte is probably one of the funniest in the entire game. It's more or less just Charlotte doing housework and cooking in the hopes of having a "handsome gentleman" noticing her hard work, but it always ends up being Saizou who appears out of nowhere and trolls her ruthlessly. Like most supports, the S-rank is a bit sudden, but there are worse offenders, and the rest is genuinely hilarious, and it actually shows Saizou's more human side which we don't see much of in the main story.

As for his bad support, it's sadly with Hinoka of all people. Ryouma and Hinoka exchange secret letters delivered by Saizou. Why? Because they want to see if he reads them. Why? Because a random feudal lord accused Saizou of being a traitor in the hopes of confusing the royal family and then seizing the throne.

So, let me get this straight: a faceless, nameless feudal lord inexplicably accuses one of the most serious, loyal and trustoworthy people in Hoshido without any evidence that we know of? No wonder Hoshido isn't the villain in this game, they're clearly not cut out for the role. The fact that Ryouma and Hinoka even humor him when they don't have to is a disservice to their characters, especially since they quickly find out about the feudal lord's plans and have him arrested anyway.

Aaaand then they get married. Saizou, you'd find a more reliable partner in a casino in Las Vegas.

So, what about you?

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A lot of Charlotte's supports surprised me.Compared to her description she is very different.I was surprised at how much of a dick Joker was(Though I still love)in many of his supports.Syalla was surprising with Kamui considering how she is very different from Tharja.Finally Camilla and Oboro.I though nearly all their supports were going to be Kmaui and Takumi this and Kamui and Takumi that.While in actuality Oboro is extremely tame to the point that I would pair her up with other characters considering she really only brings up Takumi with well Takumi and Hinata.Then there is Camilla who yes does ,mention Kamui a lot, I thought she would have done it a lot more then she actually does.

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I'm liking a lot of Harold and Zero's supports. Harold-Zero, Harold-Benoit, and Zero-Eponine were pretty interesting to read.

Saizou-Charlotte was pretty fun, too.

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Lazward/Mozume and Foleo/Shigure were really pleasant surprises for me and are some of my favorite supports, especially the former.

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Yeah, Saizou's support with Hinoka was awful. Suspecting Saizou of all people, seriously. There were other characters that were way more suspicious than Saizou. I also liked Saizou's support with Charlotte, and at least the S support wasn't that bad compared to others.

I liked a lot of Lazward's, Charlotte's, and Oboro's supports. Surprising, since I didn't really like Inigo from Awakening and I had a bad impression of the last two b/c of how they were advertised before the game came out. Mozume's supports are also really good.

I thought Oboro and Belka was going to be a fun support, but it turns out to be one of the best supports and some backstory is always good.

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Harold x Pieri is probably my least favorite support in the game, at least relative to what I was expecting. I thought it would be one of their best support convos, I pictured it being like Harold trying to get Pieri to stop being bloodthirsty or whatever, give a speech kinda like in his Belka support, and then Pieri explaining why she acts how she does, give her backstory, like in her Lazwald support. What it really is a filler-ass-filler support with Pieri's clothes being too small and having Harold fetch new ones. On the other hand, I thought Odin x Pieri was pretty good. I didn't really know what to expect from Aqua x Elise, but it was great.

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Saizou x Kagerou is pretty bland, to be honest. They were lovers once, and that's about it. I think they have better supports with other people.

Odin x Luna disappoints me, while Lazwald x Luna was way better.

Takumi x Oboro was surprising, since most crush supports usually fall flat.

Arthur x Camilla is pretty dumb. I don't like supports that talk more about other people than the pair who should be talking together.

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Lazward/Pieri and Harold/Azura were both very nice. Charlotte/anybody is one for her entire character. Mozume is good too, though it depends on how she's translated.

And having just read it now, I'm hopping on the Oboro/Belka train myself.

As for unpleasant? Well, Zero comes to mind. After reading a bunch of them and getting a sense of his character, I'm absolutely terrified about how things like Zero/Elise are going to read. The creepy comments all over Zero/Nyx single-handedly turned him from someone I was neutral to into my least favorite male character.

That being said, Zero/Pieri was kind of cute, as is Zero/Oboro.

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I really liked Oboro when I saw her, though, I was afraid she'd kinda be a bit like Sumia. I'm kinda glad the Takumi x Oboro supports were quite well done.

I really love Kamui x Oboro supports. I like the bond they develop, and a bit of an insight on Oboro's backstory. I thought it would be all Takumi-sama and shit, or Oboro talking shit to Kamui, but the supports were something I never expected and I just loved every bit of it.

I'm saddened by Crimson's romantic supports. It's all decorations blah blah blah. How could my favorite Hoshidan unit's romantic supports be so bland?

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All of Zero's supports that I've read are great. I was worried how they'd handle his character and that he'd be boring but there was nothing to worry about, lol.

Jakob was another I was worried about, but I've enjoyed all his I've read except for the one with his son. I adore his snarkyness.

Gunter's supports with male Kamui are absolutely precious.

I read one of Charlotte's, I think it was with Marx, that explained why she acts the way she does. It took me from disliking her to being neutral about her. She's not one of my favorites like the above characters, but I can understand the desperation to escape a hard life.

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I'm surprised by most of Saizou's supports because I was expecting him to be much more gimmicky than that. While some are of course more well-written than others, they still show different sides of his character that we don't get to see in the main story.

It's also quite a surprise that Jakob is such a rude character, I actually didn't see this coming.

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There aren't any that I've found absurdly bad so far -but mostly because I haven't gone out of my way to read supports outside on the game;

usually, I only dislike the supports in which there's a HUGE jump between A and S rank ; u ;

though I have to admit, I'm not a huge fan of any of Camilla's support ?

That said, my favorite supports in game are Takumi x Oboro, Belka x Oboro (AAH my favorite two girls pre and after game release alsdfjskj)

aaand Crimson x F!Kamui (which I thought was really meaningful ...and they bonded so much ; m ; )

Flannel x F!Kamui was also really sweet though !!

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Jakob and Hana's supports...yikes. "I hate you, and you hate me, but let's get hitched" I really expected to dislike Charlotte, but nope, I actually like her. A lot of her supports are super cute, especially with Xander. Flannel's personality was also surprising, his looks made me think he'd be more serious, but all his supports are super cute and light-hearted. I actually expected to LIKE Pieri, but I ended up hating her and her needless murders (yes I saw her backstory) So I married her to Lazward (Zero's also a good option) since she stops killing those poor servants lol... Yuugiri and M!Kamui's supports give nice insight on her backstory, so she's more than just Sky MILF. Was very surprised by how non-obnoxious Luna was. I hated Severa with my whole heart. A lot of Jakob's supports end in disaster.

and let's not even mention M!Kamui and Soleil supports, that caused a riot

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I agree with Charlotte/Saizou. Honestly I hadn't thought much about him but since I liked all of Charlotte's supports I decided to check it out and was very amused by Saizou's actions. Got me to check out some of his other supports and now he's among my top Hoshido characters.

Charlotte and Jakob both have very surprising supports in general compared to how they were portrayed in the advertising, but once you know how they really are their supports generally make sense so it's more surprise at the characters than the supports.

One support I was very pleasantly surprised by was Lazward/Azura. It's actually become my favourite support for each of them.

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I'm surprised by the amount of people who mention Pieri/Lazwald. It's Pieri's least offensive support, but I still don't enjoy reading anything about her. Her character bio doesn't match the description of how she actually is in the game, and she's not the only one. It says she "has a peculiar personality where she transforms into a violent alter-ego upon sensing danger on the battlefield" - Pieri is cheerful all the time, and more or less always bloodthirsty; where's the violent persona?

Anyway, I don't like how the game deals with her gimmick of wanting to murder people. Besides that she's incredibly childish and starts crying to get her way; I don't find that enjoyable to read even if she's got a tragic backstory, which really isn't anything special in this series anyway.

I also find it difficult to pair people up with Luna, Lazwald and Odin because

they disappear no matter what you do, leaving their partners and children behind.

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I wonder if [spoiler=The Awakening three]they're actually canonically married in their own worlds.

It'd be Harold and Nyx to me. Out of all those serious-ish supports, the one that managed to make me laugh wins.

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I haven't read that many supports to avoid spoilers, but one I found really surprisingly sweet was Ryoma and Elise. The reason I looked at it is because I have no intention of pairing them up in-game, but it turned out to be a really adorable support between the two. Didn't feel rushed at all and I throughly enjoyed it. Another one I enjoyed of the royals was Xander and Hinoka; I thought what he did for her was really nice~

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I found Shigure/Mitama to be very nice, they matched very well and especially, it had a good flow. Not to mention the S support didn't feel forced.

Then again, I enjoyed most of Shigure' supports, he all is I ever wanted from a male Pegasus Knight.

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I loved the Saizou/Charlotte support, it's one of my top supports in this game. Asama/Elfie is also in there and the Shinonome/Matoi one.

Surprising supports for me was Charlotte's, Joker's, and Flannel's. Although almost all of Flannel's support was him being cute.

As for disappointing supports, it's mainly with Zero. Everything is awkward with him.

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Camilla/Kamui was better than I thought it would be, as well as Marx/Kamui.

In general, I'd say most supports surprised me. I wasn't expecting much after Awakening.

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I was very surprised by how much I ended up liking Charlotte and Eponine considering I thought I'd dislike them from the moment I heard their descriptions. Charlotte has an incredible range of supports while I like Eponine's with her father and Shinonome (although her support with Soleil really doesn't do wonders for either of their overused gimmicks.)

Zero/Aqua and Kamui/Zero were also surprisingly awesome, especially the former, while my enjoyment of the latter may be just personal bias. Even so, I think Kamui/Zero shows off his personality traits really well.

I was surprised by how much of an actual puppy Flannel turned out to be. It's not the greatest support chain but I was surprised by Camilla/Flannel, while Camilla/Ryouma really let me down (still ship it a little tho.)

Oh and I didn't expect to like Harold but his character and his supports with Lutz are absolutely adorable and make him out to be such a great guy and father.

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