Cyas Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) A side project next to my Birthright efficiency run would be nice so I'd like to start a PMU. I'll say right away that this won't be turned into a Let's Play or anything like that. Rules: -16 units including Corrin, children are allowed. -Hard/Classic no-grind so only 2 Dread Fighters, 2 Dark Falcons and either a Witch or a Ballistician. You don't have to use any of those classes, they're completely optional. -Please tell me how exactly I should get the classes that you suggest for the characters. Edit: -When you draft a child, please make sure that at least one of the parents is on my team. Characters: 1. Strategist Elise 2. +HP/-Mag male Berserker Corrin (named Sol) 3. Malig Knight Silas (S-support Beruka) 4. Dark Falcon Leo 5. Falcon Knight Selena 6. Hero Xander (A+ support Laslow) 7. Dread Fighter Kaze 8. Paladin Laslow (A+ support Xander) 9. Berserker Felicia (S-rank Corrin) 10. Witch Camilla 11. Adventurer Azura!Nina 12. Bow Knight Niles 13. Hero Charlotte!Ophelia 14. Swordmaster Odin 15. Wyvern Lord Sophie 16. Great Knight Benny By the way, if you or anyone else picks Niles, you may also give me one generic unit or one capturable boss. Edited July 13, 2016 by Cyas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Hmmm. Let's get the ball rolling with Strategist Elise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelaar Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Male Avatar +HP -Mag: Class: Berserker Let's name him..... Sol. I'm just being nice ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyas Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Male Avatar +HP -Mag: Class: Berserker Let's name him..... Sol. I'm just being nice ;) I'm just happy you didn't choose -Lck to turn me into the second coming of Arthur. By the way, if you want to, you can also determine Sol's appearance. Here's the link to the Kamui customizer: http://kamuicustomizer.appspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moblin Major General Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Malig Knight Silas (S support Beruka). Edited July 12, 2016 by Feldmarschall Rommel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Draco Knight Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 So, since Dark Falcon is allowed, I'll go with Dark Falcon Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelaar Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Grima Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Falcon Knight Selena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) EDIT Hero Xander (A+ Support Laslow) Edited July 12, 2016 by Gradivus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkDestr0yer61 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Dread Fighter Kaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitchy Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Paladin Laslow (A-Rank Xander, or S-Rank Peri) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozarhok Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 General!Velouria (from Keaton x Effie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand_Of_The_Exalt Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Berserker!Felicia (S Rank Corrin) ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowGuy1 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Witch Anna (If not Anna then Witch Camilla) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyas Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) General!Velouria (from Keaton x Effie) At least one of those should be on my team so that I can get them to S. Edit: Actually, I might be able to get them to S via DLC but I wouldn't be able to deploy my actual party and would have to do it just with base level characters in DLCs that aren't there for EXP grinding. I'd rather avoid having to do that. So yeah, please choose either Keaton or Effie (or both if you really want to) for my team and add their class(es) as well. No Anna so Witch Camilla it is. Edited July 12, 2016 by Cyas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Adventurer!Azura!Nina As far as the parent on the team, Bow Knight!Niles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Hero Charlotte!Ophelia Since we need a parent... Swordmaster Odin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Wyvern Lord!Sophie(you already have Silas/Beruka S so this one should be obvious) Edited July 13, 2016 by Ether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyas Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 Well, EffiexKeaton!Velouria needs at least two spots to work and we already have 15 units so I guess that isn't happening after all. One more to go and I can begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Since I'm a jerk. . . Great Knight Benny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyas Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 Alright, thanks for posting everybody. I have to admit that this team turned out much better than anticipated. Every unit ranges from really good to at least viable. Dread Fighter!Kaze, Dark Falcon!Leo and Hero!Xander are all things I would consider doing/I have already done in a normal playthrough anyway. Stuff like Berserker Felicia is at least salvageable. I mean, the Avatar alone gives +5 Str and a tonic and a competent cook bring that up to 9. A Steel Axe +2 (when she finally reaches the required weapon rank) has also as much power as the Omega Yato (16). Not to mention she also gets early Axefaire so that's 30 Attack before factoring in her hopefully okay-ish base Str (growth is 35). Huh, she actually hits pretty hard when she gets going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) I'm just happy you didn't choose -Lck to turn me into the second coming of Arthur. Well, this is just me, but I think being a Berserker will likely blow up in your face, especially lategame. Edited July 14, 2016 by Levant Mir Celestia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyas Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Well, this is just me, but I think being a Berserker will likely blow up in your face, especially lategame. Haha, I'll probably get crit-killed a few times in this run, especially if I ever end up using Silver. Though, the Berserker Avatar isn't bad in my opinion. Berserkers have crazy good offense. Furthermore, Sol has 36 HP and 14 Def after completing chapter 8. That's overall better defense than Camilla if I give him tonics and Felicia's personal is active. However, I can see why you wouldn't want to use Berserkers. If I do create a post at the end of the run explaining how everybody turned out, I'll be sure to include a "killed by crits" Counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyas Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 It took a while but I decided that I should make a small unit summary. Not bad by any means. His offense was pretty good after reclassing and it didn’t take long until he could start ORKOing consistently. He hit really hard during late to mid-game thanks to Axefaire with forged Steel Axes and Rally Strength from Felicia. His immense HP stat and solid Def also allowed him to tank when needed. Sol actually hit Level 20 during Endgame but never reached S-Axes. The MVP of this run. My team was kinda underleveled so he was very crucial during late-game thanks to being actually able to double (got 2 Speedwings but 1 would have probably already been enough due to Rally Speed and the availability of Berserker Pair-ups). He killed Takumi because everybody else would either: Die to Vengeance Die to Vengeance crits (eg: Sol) Also, notice something strange? He got horribly Def-screwed. Xander procced Def like 3 times during 16 Level-ups with a 50ish growth rate. That actually made him a lot better due to the enemy targeting conditions in CQ. Actually had very impressive early-game offense with Axefaire. Sadly, she is still extremely frail. Other people needed her offensive pair-up boosts (and by other people I mean Odin) or just Rally Str so she kinda fell behind the rest of the team after chapter 17. My Kaze’s always seem to cap Str somehow. There’s not much to say that the picture doesn’t already tell you: He’s a Magekiller and has generally good offense on PP. Kaze is also surprisingly tanky because of his high HP. Putting the names unbefitting of Odin Dark’s fell weaponry aside, he was kind of an odd unit. As one would expect, his stats after reclassing weren’t exactly stellar. The problem is however that it stayed that way for 70% of the game. Then his usefulness sky-rocketed somehow towards the end and he became one of my most competent units. For example when he tanked the Hero room in C26. And by tanking I mean not dodging attacks but actually facetanking them. With active and passive Def stacking he had like 36 Def, which is pretty funny on a SM. She doubles just about everything but was in need of multiple Spirit Dusts in order to ORKO enemies once the mid-game was over. Warp was broken as you might have already guessed. It made the quick clear of C20 and C24 possible and allowed me to skip the bottom room of C26. Looks solid on paper with Darting Blow and good enough Speed to double with forged Steel Lances to make up for the relative lack of Strength. There’s also enough Rally Strength to go by on my team to further amplify her offense and her Defense is solid as well. It’s just that Rally Speed was so valuable that she hardly fought after hitting Level 5. Good up to that point and Rally bot afterwards. He ORKOes things, flies but can’t really take hits. Leo was especially useful during C21 when he flew ahead of the group in order to ORKO the Stoneborn with Lightning. Or C20 where he OHKOed Fuga with Mjölnir so I could ~5 turn it while getting Rescue. Just a Standard Niles albeit with offensive issues towards the end of the game. He was still fine until Endgame due to Rally Strength. I like Benny, but only if he has Wary Fighter. I trained him for a while though I considered other units to be more important. Sorry eclipse, he was the least used unit. I tried to make her good. She got a +3 Bronze Sword and Berserker Pair-up all the time but lost importance once my team reached C18 and every enemy was promoted. The plan was to hit C rank Swords for KE, equip Gamble and have 3 tomes for crits but alas it never happened. His damage output in one hit is quite huge. Laslow’s was pretty alright as long as he got Rally Spd boosts but he was Xander’s pair-up bot most of the time. She’s basically Silas with a little bit less STR but actual Spd and Rally Def. Sophie replaced her father’s spot on my team which was amusing considering their supports talk about how hard Sophie has to try to be as good of a knight as Silas is. She’s just a Standard Elise. She didn’t fight a lot in this playthrough because I have 15 other units to use who can mostly just earn EXP by killing while Elise has her own personal and technically infinite EXP pool. Azura!Nina is so stupidly squishy. Putting that aside, she had good PP offense, move and versatility with the Shining Bow. Silas was kind of an interesting case. See, during early-game, he got Spd-screwed but also Str blessed so instead of doubling he was mostly just one-shotting and tanking. That was all fine until C18. There’s no chance for him to one-shot at this point or be an outstanding tank and with his terrible Spd he couldn’t double much either. After a while he was relegated to being a pair-up bot though at least he was the early-game MVP. Never even attempted to use Magic for obvious reasons. Most units here seem to be under-leveled. Maybe I spread EXP too thinly and skipped too many maps (Fuga’s wild Ride and Hinoka), maybe I relied too heavily on Xander. I don’t really care either way since my team was strong enough to handle everything up until Endgame where I started improvising. Endgame was one of the three chapters in this run where I struggled. The first one was, unsurprisingly, Chapter 10. Now, I don’t think vanilla Chapter 10 is that overwhelmingly hard. Doing it without Azura, without enough units to hit deployment cap and without Malig Knight Camilla (She was still strong but not nearly as good as with a Wyvern) made things more interesting. I forfeited the Draco Shield and got cornered near the Defend tiles on turn 11 but it worked out. The second was Chapter 17. 3 resets all because of oversights instead of the actual chapter. Kotaro killed Odin during the first try because I wasn’t aware of the fact that Silver Shuriken de-buff Spd. Second try Benny died to the Armorslayer guy. Third victim was Selena, again, Silver Shuriken de-buff Spd. This chapter engraved that fact on my mind. Endgame is actually pretty do-able until the rider squad arrived. It, alongside the suicide Faceless, proved to be too sturdy to be all wiped out in one turn. That’s the only time where I wished I would have been a bit more careful with EXP distribution. The solution to the problem was very careful positioning so that no squishy units could be reached and all of my remaining freeze staff uses. Selena’s staff hit rate was pretty garbage (64%). In hindsight, I should have trained Nina’s staff rank, it would have made things so much more reliable. And finally, the amount of times Sol got killed by crits, now is the last chance to bet: 1. The Sniper in one of the side rooms of C27 no less. In other words, it only took a few seconds to get back to where I was and it was quite inconsequential. Technically speaking it happened twice but that was in a just for fun attempt at C25 where Sol had an actually fair duel (no healing items, no tonics, meals etc. Just Sol and his Yato-boosted stats and a Dual Club against Ryoma, his Raijinto boosted stats and, well, his Raijinto) with Ryoma that obviously ended in Sol’s demise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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