Kaoz Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Repent, for the herald of the heavens is coming! Any special reason for this line? Right, let's get started. ##Vote: Kay It worked the last 3 games in a row. Wtf Haze, why are you skipping the policy lynches? ##Vote: Haze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I was meaning no Thief only as a thief, it would most likely be a hybrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 There is a thief. And that fucker stole my Item Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Doesn't sound like something a town thief would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Suggesting that thief wouldn't consider me as scum are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm saying, if I were said thief, I'm not entirely sure if I would steal indiscriminately. Maybe it's good for the town, having all those items in one place? I haven't thought it through. I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 its bad to have them in one place because if that one place drops dead bye bye all items oh and just saying: If some one claims affinity cop s/he is the thief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 what Hey, I don't have any policy vote like you guys do... Doesn't sound like something a town thief would do. Uh, actually, if I was a Town Thief, I probably WOULD steal from ShoM. Even if he's Town, I'd feel better if this ability was in my hands than with someone like ShoM. I'm saying, if I were said thief, I'm not entirely sure if I would steal indiscriminately. Maybe it's good for the town, having all those items in one place? I haven't thought it through. I'm not sure. Are you implying you would have idled then? If you have the capability of racking up multiple items, something which no other player can do, would you disregard your ability until you can be sure you'll cripple a Mafia with it? The reason why Jack-of-all-Trades is such an amazing role is because being able to perform different abilities at different times makes the JoaT very flexible in its duties. Not to mention, it can sometimes use the information it gained from previous actions to apply the proper action on the proper target e.g. investigating a Mafia member, and then killing him without having to announce the investigation result. In case it wasn't obvious, I love the Jack-of-all-Trades role, probably because it was my first ever Town role (in my second Mafia game). At Night 0, I highly doubt the thief has any information specific to this game on who might be a good person to steal from. So why not just steal from someone like ShoM? its bad to have them in one place because if that one place drops dead bye bye all items And why would a Thief hog the items without ever using them? If the Thief is like Itemafia and only wants to get rich, it's most likely Self-Aligned anyways. If the Thief is Town, why is it bad that the Thief gets to utilize an item's abilities instead of the original owner? Of course, I can see why it would be bad for the Mafia if they get robbed, but that's certainly not bad for us! oh and just saying:If some one claims affinity cop s/he is the thief And why on Weyard are you announcing this? That was a very idiotic move there, ShoM. Even if you wanted to expose the Thief (which I still think is a bad idea, since a Thief can be very helpful), why would you announce it BEFORE this claim was even made??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Uh, actually, if I was a Town Thief, I probably WOULD steal from ShoM. Even if he's Town, I'd feel better if this ability was in my hands than with someone like ShoM. Ignoring the fact that I would use it better than you maggot Are you implying you would have idled then? If you have the capability of racking up multiple items, something which no other player can do, would you disregard your ability until you can be sure you'll cripple a Mafia with it? The reason why Jack-of-all-Trades is such an amazing role is because being able to perform different abilities at different times makes the JoaT very flexible in its duties. Not to mention, it can sometimes use the information it gained from previous actions to apply the proper action on the proper target e.g. investigating a Mafia member, and then killing him without having to announce the investigation result. In case it wasn't obvious, I love the Jack-of-all-Trades role, probably because it was my first ever Town role (in my second Mafia game). Stacking items is bad if the thief dies and we lose like 3 items worth abilities At Night 0, I highly doubt the thief has any information specific to this game on who might be a good person to steal from. So why not just steal from someone like ShoM? Because Im always town and at least trying to steal from scum is better idea And why would a Thief hog the items without ever using them? If the Thief is like Itemafia and only wants to get rich, it's most likely Self-Aligned anyways. If the Thief is Town, why is it bad that the Thief gets to utilize an item's abilities instead of the original owner? Of course, I can see why it would be bad for the Mafia if they get robbed, but that's certainly not bad for us! Suggesting items dont have infinite uses. again with more items lost from one kill And why on Weyard are you announcing this? That was a very idiotic move there, ShoM. You make so much sense that I will vote you unless you have pretty good argument why not. If thief fakeclaims anything he lies. He isn't doctor or somethong as good so reason for his lie(fakeclaim) is most likely being scum. Even if you wanted to expose the Thief (which I still think is a bad idea, since a Thief can be very helpful), why would you announce it BEFORE this claim was even made??? Unless the thief is complete moron he claims after I die fuckface Actually lets save time. Banish##: Proto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 yeah sho none of that made any sense at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 yeah sho none of that made any sense at all I would be happy if you told me if this post includes sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I would be happy if you told me if this post includes sarcasm Your post consisted of three things: 1. The infinite uses thing (actually worth noting) 2. Some disjointed crap about the thief claiming that I don't follow at all 3. Hostile language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Well, this part made sense: Stacking items is bad if the thief dies and we lose like 3 items worth abilities Other than that, I would agree that most people are better at using abilities than you, considering that you apparently just banished proto for literally no reason jegus fuck is that like killing him or what ##Unvote (Though I don't know what good that is) ##Vote: Sho (I don't care if your ability could be potentially useful, from what I've seen out of you though, it won't be) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 jegus fuck is that like killing him or what I think it's just a flashy way of voting. Considering voting just because of that "I'm always town" argument. Is that the kind of inane bullshit that made Bizz ragequit SF mafia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 If you read the rules you note that banishing is VERB in other words I voted Proto. How come others are any better than me in using abilities? explaim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Oh. I'll just go ahead and keep it on him though~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Considering voting just because of that "I'm always town" argument. Is that the kind of inane bullshit that made Bizz ragequit SF mafia? Its a joke. And its valid argument for something like "Why not steal from Sho" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 2. Some disjointed crap about the thief claiming that I don't follow at all Assuming thief is scum and that he obtains item that lets him check peoples affinity, He or his scumbuddy would have perfect fakeclaim right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Ignoring the fact that I would use it better than you maggot We're discussing intentions here. Even if the thief, X, is the worst player in the game, I don't think X would want to ignore his Thief ability and remain like a Vanilla forever. No, X would definitely want an ability and he/she would be willing to steal to get it. Even if the victim, Y, would have made better use of the ability, X would still want to take the item anyway. This is in response to Naggy's post, when he doubted whether a Town Thief would do something like that. Whether the act of stealing was beneficial for the Town or not, is an entirely different story. Stacking items is bad if the thief dies and we lose like 3 items worth abilities You completely ignored my explanation of why Jack-of-all-Trades is awesome. Stacking items is not bad. The thief can actually use those abilities, and being able to use different abilities gives it an extra advantage that the original owners didn't have. Because Im always town and at least trying to steal from scum is better idea ...did you seriously try to argue against the most important point by something as stupid as "because I'm always Town"? I don't seriously need to explain why "because I'm always Town" isn't even considered logic, do I? Even if you don't have any hard evidence, you can at least present some logical reason why the Thief would have believed you were Town. At least if Psych said something like "If I were Mafia, my scumbuddies would murder the mods because they think I'm a bad player. So the mods would obviously made me Town", it would have made some sense, even if this logic should not even be treated like logic. But from you, ShoM, "Because I'm always Town" has absolutely 0 value, unless you're suggesting that you're in a similar position as Psych. Suggesting items dont have infinite uses. again with more items lost from one kill Are you implying that items that give the player active abilities can be used every night? Without ever breaking? Are you serious, ShoM? Even if that IS what your item is like, the death of a Thief likely won't be a bigger loss until it racks up three items or more. Every player has an ability, as well as an item, which makes for two abilities, regardless of whether it's active or passive. Are you implying that the thief can acquire three items that all have infinite uses and still be vulnerable to nightkills? You make so much sense that I will vote you unless you have pretty good argument why not. If thief fakeclaims anything he lies. He isn't doctor or somethong as good so reason for his lie(fakeclaim) is most likely being scum. If I were a Jack-of-all-Trades, and I used up my last ability, an investigation, to find scum, I don't think I would claim to be a JoaT. No, it would be better to claim Cop, so that the Mafia continues to think that I, now a Vanilla, will remain as a threat. Besides, why would a Thief want to tell the public what other abilities are in his possession? And why would the Thief even want the public to know that they have other abilities in the first place? If I want to reveal that I have a specific ability, why should I tell everybody what my other abilities, if it's not necessary for me to reveal them? There's absolutely no reason to do that. So I might as well just stick to claiming the ability that is actually relevant to the public, and hide the other abilities until it's necessary for me reveal them. An example would be RD/Kaoz in Bizarro Mafia. He claimed Announcer and snipped the bit about seeing night actions until it was time to reveal it. In the same way, a Thief should not reveal to the public about what extra abilities he/she has, until it's time to reveal them. Fakeclaiming is not something that is only done by the Mafia. Unless the thief is complete moron he claims after I die fuckface Again, why would you want to expose the Thief when he could be incredibly useful as Town? Banish##: Proto Evil ones, begone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Oh. I'll just go ahead and keep it on him though~ I still wait answer for why i would be any worse user for item's ability than anyone else. Oh and why are we letting Proto's unlogical bullcrap be unattendet And proto i saw you replying. Why didnt you post what you wrote? Waiting scumbuddy to tell their opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I still wait answer for why i would be any worse user for item's ability than anyone else. Oh and why are we letting Proto's unlogical bullcrap be unattendet And proto i saw you replying. Why didnt you post what you wrote? Waiting scumbuddy to tell their opinion? That was based on me not reading the rules beyond "NOC" and the last couple of rules because of the sign ups. Whoops! But you still seem kinda, uhh, I don't know how to put this. Hostile, I guess? And Proto's "logic-less bullshit" (which is what I believe you meant) makes more sense than your arguments beyond that one thing I quoted and me making a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Bah, I made so many grammatical errors... this is what happens when I read ShoM's sentences too many times... Its a joke. And its valid argument for something like "Why not steal from Sho" Valid Argument? Do you have any idea what the word "valid" even means? Looks like it's not just use your grammar that fails, but your vocabulary too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I don't understand why this is suddenly so personal. Jesus, there's a reason it took me so long to even try Mafia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I don't understand why this is suddenly so personal. Jesus, there's a reason it took me so long to even try Mafia. Honestly I think that's the best part where are fayt and life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Honestly I think that's the best part main difference between 0% warn and good behaviour bond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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