BBM Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 It could also be a town kidnapper random kidnapping someone. Seems strange for OC to still go through, then. I guess it could be something else, but one tends to default to Silencer when someone can't talk. Also, if he was kidnapped/jailed, I would expect the flavour to be something along the lines of "Paperblade is missing", not "Paperblade doesn't want to leave his house". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I think he meant how do you know the Silencer is not town, to which I answer, preventing someone from contributing to the Day's discussion is a pretty scummy role. I would expect a town Silencer to ask whom they should target, or at the very least, target someone scummier. It may have been one of scorri's abilities, that was chosen at random. Still a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Because I'm SG. That's why. And no, claiming it earlier would have made the mafia go "oh, he's a PR, let's kill him and then town is down a SG". Additionally, I did pretty much claim, because of breadcrumbs everyone that people picked up on. But I didn't want to outright claim that night because I might be more useful alive than dead. If I die tonight, then eh, it's not really a problem. town!SG is almost useless early, but better late. Wut Also Clipsey, what do you mean "[you] were sent elsewhere"? It's possible that we have a town kidnapper, but we can't know what the difference between Silencer and Kidnapper right now because we're not sure what Paper's role is and if he used it or not (I believe Kidnapper also roleblocks, so that assumption is what I'm basing that off of). Also I read that one of Scorri's abilities is to kidnap someone. Maybe she kidnapped Paper on accident in hopes of protecting him, and if her action has higher priority than a NK she'd have kidnapped him before she died? Just some thoughts on that. ##Vote: Elie Just to make you paranoid. What do you gotta say about things so far? Haven't seen you around much but you're a working dad so that's okay. But you've been awfully quiet/forgettable so far so let's change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 ##Vote: nano nano isn't saying much and all he's done so far is say that everyone's trustworthy and asked how a few roles work. Otherwise he hasn't really done anything. Ohey! I see you nano.Say something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 By "sent elsewhere", I meant "I said person A in my role PM and instead the hosts tell me someone that isn't person A in my role PM". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 You go out to tell your sad tale of lost romance to <User>. But along the way, you start to feel something strange, as if something is following you... all of a sudden, everything goes black! You're not sure quite what happened, but you wake up in the morning and immediately shower about seventeen times. Whatever it was, there was no way you made it to <User> last night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nano Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Another townie? This is no good. And we didn't get much info out of it too. I'll try to do some analysis. I'm kinda new, so sorry if what I say is obvious. scorri clearly established herself as town on day 1, and she is probably killed by the mafia night kill. The town probably does not have a vigilante, since there was only one death. A vig is also unlikely when you factor in the PGO and the bomb that have already been claimed (though not proven). Having any two of the three would give the town too much killing power imo, especially since scorri has a single-use kill too. I'm not sure if the town has a doctor or not. scorri is kinda the stand-out townie on day 1 so if the doctor is to protect someone it should be scorri. No one was silenced on N0, so the silencer obviously is not doing this out of random. It's a little weird to silence paperblade of all people though, since the extra vote probably won't matter much anyway and if he has important info to share he can always get them off through messages. I would guess that there is some sort of redirect and shifted the silence to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nano Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 My reasoning is a bit off on the silence part. I mean, I would expect a mafia silence to target more obvious townies and a town silence to target more scummy looking people. Maybe the town silencer got some info? In that case paper is a little suspicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nano Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 ##Vote: nano nano isn't saying much and all he's done so far is say that everyone's trustworthy and asked how a few roles work. Otherwise he hasn't really done anything. Ohey! I see you nano.Say something. You did that while I was typing. >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Oh uh, sorry. ##Unvote for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Another townie? This is no good. And we didn't get much info out of it too. I'll try to do some analysis. I'm kinda new, so sorry if what I say is obvious. scorri clearly established herself as town on day 1, and she is probably killed by the mafia night kill. The town probably does not have a vigilante, since there was only one death. A vig is also unlikely when you factor in the PGO and the bomb that have already been claimed (though not proven). Having any two of the three would give the town too much killing power imo, especially since scorri has a single-use kill too. I'm not sure if the town has a doctor or not. scorri is kinda the stand-out townie on day 1 so if the doctor is to protect someone it should be scorri. No one was silenced on N0, so the silencer obviously is not doing this out of random. It's a little weird to silence paperblade of all people though, since the extra vote probably won't matter much anyway and if he has important info to share he can always get them off through messages. I would guess that there is some sort of redirect and shifted the silence to him. I wouldn't say scorri established herself as town. Yeah she looked a bit pro-town, but it was never established. The vig could just have not used his/her power last night. Maybe they have limited shots. Bomb still means we lose another town, if the bomb is of that alignment. If the bomb is in fact mafia, there has to be a town vigilante. PGO though... hrm. :S There probably was a doctor but he targetted some other player, or the doc was inatcive and idled. You'll never know I guess, but I agree, since scorri stood out( and I think Blitz stood out too), one of them should've been protected? Maybe he protected Blitz, if the doc even exists. Redirect kinda makes sense, but maybe the silence was also caused by Scorri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nano Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I don't know how randomizers should play but should you be targetting random people? You don't want to give them killing powers or accidentally redirect their kill/inspection onto yourself. Yeah I agree that scorri is 100% confimed town, but I would think that she has the highest chance out of everyone. I thought bombing is always worth it since there are less mafias? I mean, the town will always have vote majority until very late into the game, so losing a person is not a big deal. Mafia has something like 6 people tops (just a guess here) so losing one is a huge detriment. Also why would mafia have a bomb? Even if they get lucky and bombed the vig, it's still just an even trade, maybe even unfavorable since there are less mafia. And if the town kill is single use then the bomb is pointless. I wish we can get some decisive info on anyone right now, instead of second-guessing everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Scratch the redirect possibility- it lookes like eclipse was redirected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 If mafia had 6 people, I would cry for balance's sake. If mafia had 6, then if we lynched town today, we lose tomorrow, period. I doubt that would ever be the case. I would except about 4 mafia, to be honest. (5 isn't completely out of the question, but is more unlikely) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 *expect can't use the right words today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 scorri had a grand total of zero votes on her. So did most of the game. I'm a bit miffed she didn't vote before phase end. Her previous votes were on Pride (wheredidyougowhatdidyoudo) and Kay (who was lynched anyway). However, she wasn't cleared!town in everyone's eyes; read this, and my reaction below it. That post reminded me to read something else, which means. . . ##Vote: Helios Loved the opinion dump, but how can you not have an opinion on Haze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 By "sent elsewhere", I meant "I said person A in my role PM and instead the hosts tell me someone that isn't person A in my role PM". So you were redirected? That's interesting. I guess whoever thought of a redirector being in the game (Manix I believe?) was right. However, if there's a mass lightning rod, single lightning rod, safeguard, doctor, AND redirector/bus driver...that would be pretty crazy. Even if there's no doctor in this game, 4 roles with the potential to redirect an action doesn't seem all that likely. It's possible someone is fakeclaiming something. Or maybe Marth ended up using his lightning rod ability and you hit him instead? Also nano that's the point; there isn't a reason for mafia to have a bomb, and since you can't prove your role until death, it's an easy fakeclaim for scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 @Eclipse: The question isn't "how can you not have an opinion on Haze", it's more like "why are you so lazy even if it's just a couple sentences just mention Haze dammit". So be patient my friend, I'll get there later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I didn't target eclipse. I can tell you that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I didn't target eclipse. I can tell you that much. You don't have to target Eclipse though. You could target whoever Eclipse targeted, and so Eclipse ended up targeting you instead of her original target. Of course this is pointless if Eclipse says she didn't end up targeting you lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 You don't have to target Eclipse though. You could target whoever Eclipse targeted, and so Eclipse ended up targeting you instead of her original target. Of course this is pointless if Eclipse says she didn't end up targeting you lol. I'm not a martyr. I'm a lightning rod. If I targeted eclipse, she should be using her action on me. Basically if I targeted you, you would've used your action on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 That's not how Marth's role works. ;/ The only redirection claims I've seen are Haze's one-time lightning rod, scorri's jack of all trades and then some, and Marth's reverse martyr. I'm not too happy with the safeguard claim; it didn't seem like a good time to say anything about it, as Manix wasn't one of the three in danger of being lynched. All I know is that I got a result on someone that I didn't intend on targeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Marth stop reading my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 ##Unvote ##Vote: Pride PRIDE! If you have time to spam the FE4 thread, then you have time to do something about this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I'm not too happy with the safeguard claim; it didn't seem like a good time to say anything about it it probably wasn't, but hey, I still suck at this game pretty hard sometimes. It did clear up why I was being a bit weird during N1 though. For all that's worth. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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