Bluedoom Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I don't know how many times I should do this. This can't be! King Dedede, the greatest penguin of all times, your idol, has died! You can't believe it, how could something like this ha-- hey, what's that over there right next to his corpse? When nobody is looking, you pick up a book with the title "Detective 101". It may not be the most ethical thing to do, but you decide that you must avenge Dedede's death and take the book with you. From now on, during the night, you may reply to your Role PM with "Night X - USER, how is it going?". You will start to chat with USER, and following the instructions in the book, be able to get them to tell you their role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 oh. i didn't see it in any case, why the fuck would we be lynching blitz today when marth might as well be obvscum? also blitz: http://puu.sh/IoJ4 <- from your PoV where do you think the scum are on these wagons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 ok yeah that's fake, i don't recall seeing kaoz use an exclamation point in flavor ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 ok yeah that's fake, i don't recall seeing kaoz use an exclamation point in flavor ever There are a lot of other reasons as well: Piplup being backup rolecop is the scummiest of them all. Let's start with the name "Piplup". Why didn't Piplup evolve into Prinplup for a role upgrade? After all, Piplup is a Pokemon. Next, you have the word "backup". Kind Dedede is Piplup's idol? Where the heck did this come from? Is it just because people find it funny that Dedede is a penguin? They're not even from the same universe. Then comes the word "rolecop". Okay, he picks up a book called Detective 101? Since when was King Dedede a detective? And you use that book to find out their role? Worst lie ever. Look at Dedede's role PM. He doesn't use a book, he doesn't chat with his target, he doesn't use any detective skills to get the role PM. What he does is send his Waddle Dee army to overwhelm the target and take the role PM. And that's how he gets the role, but the Waddle Dees end up damaging the other parts of the role PM. No "How's it going?", no detective books, nothing like that. The only skill he relied on is his command over the Waddle Dee army, which is not something you'd find in a book called "Detective 101", and even then, there was no mention of Waddle Dees in Blues' falseclaim. Blues, thank you for quoting Prims' ability. I wasn't sure whether he should roleclaim because there was still a possibility that Mafia didn't actually know his role. But since you revealed it, it's pretty much confirmed. Oh, and revealing it just made you scummier than before, though you probably already reached the cap for the scumminess stat. All you had to do was ask Prims whether or not his action was "Night X - Hey USER", and he'd have confirmed that you can investigate. By quoting the entire thing and exposing him as a Doctor, you just confirmed that you're not only a Cop, but a Mafia Cop as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 soooo: - shinori scumslip seems entirely reasonable when blitz did softclaim, making it feasible he'd recall town knowing stuff about blitz's role - shinori suggesting we wagon blitz at this point is totally ridiculous. would lynch tomorrow - decided blitz doesn't make sense as marth's buddy based on early interactions, so uh, sorry for d2 :X if we're to believe all of blitz's assumptions are true, we have: http://puu.sh/IoQv so... proto and shinori obviously aren't buddies strawman is lookin' townie for the waffle on marth before he made his wagon jump, as scum he'd want to bus fast and hard in that situation a part of me wants to think scum's plan was to turbobus today and that subi is scum, but i'd need to re-read her i wonder if we have a marth/subi/iris/scorri/shinori scumteam, where i'm the only townie whose role isn't a playable character for some reason. you'd think they'd have fakeclaims, though subi and elie don't make sense as buddies for role-related reasons, by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 For other players' reference: [spoiler=King Dedede] Dear San,You are King Dedede. The self-styled king of the amazingly peaceful Dream Land. He continually does things unbecoming a king, like stealing the kingdom's food supplies or all the stars from the sky. He's not all bad, though, and sometimes performs good deeds. While he and Kirby often battle, they've been known to compete good-naturedly at speed-eating contests and minigames. During the night, you may reply to your Role PM with "Night X - Waddle Dee Army, seize USER!". Your underlings will swarm USER and bring you USER's Role PM. Unfortunately, Waddle Dees aren't very careful with what they seized, which causes USER's name, flavour and alliance to be unreadable, leaving you with only the role itself. It might end up slightly less damaged if they have less energy. You are allied with the Town. You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 i wonder if we have a marth/subi/iris/scorri/shinori scumteam, where i'm the only townie whose role isn't a playable character for some reason. you'd think they'd have fakeclaims, though I'm leaning more towards marth/subi/impy/scorri/shinori, but it's close enough. Also, Strawman said he wasn't a playable character either, but just a normal trophy. Why do you find Iris scummy though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 honestly PoE just boils it down to subi / iris in general i'm confirmed town proto is obvtown blitz is obvtown strawman is obvtown psych is obvtown bbm is probably obvtown manix is... almost obvtown tables has an accurate result on bananas, and scum probably don't have both a tracker and a rolecop given the set-up so far marth is obvscum shinori is probably his buddy eclipse is ??? subi is ??? elie is ??? but not subieko's scumbuddy iris is ??? BUT if we assume marth / subi scum then those voteparks on her when nobody actually wanted to lynch her look like easy distancing PoE's effectiveness is reliant on how good your actual reads are, though, so i'll give the game a re-read and look over the less townie of my town reads and those ???s tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Oh man this is CPM all over again. My first suspect(Blitz)(in CPM it was Subieko) happens to be mafia(I'm sure of this because he's nailing me now). The second happens to be third party(eclipse in CPM and Naglfar in this game). For some reason everyone starts saying I'm obvious scum but in the end I kinda guess the scum team right(I did guess Helios and Iris right. And Subieko, but no one ever listens to me) and I flip town. This is like, shitty annoying. I dunno if I'll guess it right this time too. Eitherways you are free to lynch me and then lynch the following players: Blitz(obvious), BBM(reasons already stated) and BBM saying that the setup is way town-sided gives me a feeling there's a fact that mafia can combat the stages. Let's just say I'm leaning on Subi to be mafia too. The last person might be... one of eclipse/manix because Manix hasn't claimed and apparently a mafia networker is plausible and useful if you guys think the setup is way too town sided. I'd lean on Manix but I'm not sure. ##Vote: Marth You don't deserve a rolecop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Amd yes Shinori is town. Because once you find out flavor means a fuck, you'll get off Shinori. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Prims should read my post because I didn't say we should wagon blitz. Go back read and stop putting words in my mouth. The fact that you keep coming up with illogical reason to want me lynched is just stupid. ##Vote: Marth Whatever I'm fed up with this no one here is smart enough to listen to reasoning apparently and finds stupid reasons to think I'm scum. I'm going to battleship halberd tonight, if you think I'm scum don't go there. And just have me alone for the rest of the game I really don't give a shit. Prims and Blitz are about as stupid as stupid can be at the moment for legitimately thinking I'm scum when I've been the person wanting Marth lynched for all of this day and although I didn't necessarily want him lynched on day one I was easily the most aggressive person towards him that day. You know what fuck this. If you plan on lynching me tomorrow lynch me today so I don't have to deal with your stupid crap anymore. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 honestly PoE just boils it down to subi / iris in general What's PoE? i'm confirmed townproto is obvtown blitz is obvtown strawman is obvtown psych is obvtown bbm is probably obvtown manix is... almost obvtown Agreed. I'd add Serious Bananas to the list as well, which you seem to have forgotten. tables has an accurate result on bananas, and scum probably don't have both a tracker and a rolecop given the set-up so far Negative. The result was not accurate. He claimed Serious Bananas idled, which contradicts Serious Bananas' claim that she watched Impy (which you yourself confirmed, Prims). Different priorities is certainly a valid excuse for the contradiction, but nevertheless, Impy/I eat tables has yet to present us with a single accurate result that isn't obvious from the night result (N2 scorri). marth is obvscumshinori is probably his buddy Yes, but I'd replace "probably" with "almost definitely" eclipse is ???subi is ??? elie is ??? but not subieko's scumbuddy iris is ??? BUT if we assume marth / subi scum then those voteparks on her when nobody actually wanted to lynch her look like easy distancing PoE's effectiveness is reliant on how good your actual reads are, though, so i'll give the game a re-read and look over the less townie of my town reads and those ???s tomorrow I'd put BBM and Manix in the ??? list, but w/e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Lol I totally forgot about iris and Tables and SB. Since acc to me one of Iris/Subi can be scum, I'm leaning on Subi. And out of Tables, SB, Manix and eclipse, well scrtach eclipse because I don't think that'd make sense. One of Tables/SB is lying. Or they're both town and town has all standard roles while mafia has stage combating roles in which case Manix would be scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Oh yeah, and proto and Pscyh SHOULD be in the same area because I bet everyone's interested to know what's going on with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 With marth voting himself he should be at 9 votes. Can someone hammer so this day phase can end and we can see what happens so we can hurry up and move along to the pointless night and then the following day where you lynch me as town and feel stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Update won't go even with supermajority unless everyone has picked a stage (protip: they haven't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 PoE = process of elimination bananas' role PM hinted that he can't be seen by trackers if two of shinori, blitz, proto vote marth then we can end this day whenever everybody's done picking their stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm picking Castle Siege. Like that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 With marth voting himself he should be at 9 votes. Can someone hammer so this day phase can end and we can see what happens so we can hurry up and move along to the pointless night and then the following day where you lynch me as town and feel stupid. Day won't end prematurely unless everybody picked their stages. Speaking of stages, Shinori can you please go to wherever BBM and Manix are going? Because I think one of them is a Vig and I went them to blow your brains out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Paperblade is a Ninja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 we've already established that vig can probably shoot cross-stage, proto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 we've already established that vig can probably shoot cross-stage, proto established... probably... wut? On second though, Shinori, don't go to the Vig. You're just gonna redirect him to shoot himself/another Townie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 bananas' role PM hinted that he can't be seen by trackers Still not what I'd call an "accurate" result. It's just a result that has valid excuses explaining its contradiction. btw Prims, now that the cat's out of the bag, can you please full claim for the sake of me having my spreadsheet filled up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Oh, wait, I don't see Prims viewing the thread. Blues, can you post Prims' full claim instead? Because I know you have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 They can move to me then. Have both BBM and manix move to where I am currently at and they can do as they so please. I don't care. I just want you to know that you proto are literally FUCKING LEGIT STUPID. Whatever. I'm done with this. Lynch me vig me, I don't care. And I like how I'm getting flake even though I've been the biggest person against marth this game. Not to mention I said I would have been fine with lynching scorri yesterday with posted reasons. As far as I can tell you are all retarded with your messed up reads, either that or you are scum. Also side note, if marth rolls town lynch fucking prims right away. Because seriously. This is bull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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