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If nobody tells me I need to claim, I go to sleep, and I end up getting lynched anyways, look at these people after my flip:

Nightmare- D1's almost over and he still hasn't done anything. If he can't play, mods please sub him out.

Cam- reasons above

Aere- That last post was bad. His point about Rapier made no sense, and had sort of circular reasoning. His point about me was flat-out factually wrong.

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Fuck, I'm really sorry guys. :facepalm: I've been tired and doing a lot of stuff today, and I wasn't thinking properly when I made my last post. I forgot to give reasoning and then voted the wrong person.

##Unvote, ##Vote Camtech. This is the vote I meant to make. Why? Mainly about his ISOing, which was supposed to be him contributing. He ISOd only two people, and let's look at those. First, he ISOs Rapier, points out a discrepancy, but then doesn't do anything with it. It's like the body paragraph of an essay without a conclusion, but worse. Then he ISOs me, and he quotes only two posts again. The first one he says makes me look townie, and the second one he says makes me look scum. But he doesn't say which one of the two I am. Same deal as the Rapier ISO, no conclusion. It's sort of the point that I made against Eclipse earlier and Bizz made against Rapier- he's sitting on the fence. And this is all not even taking into account the quality of the points he makes.

You shouldn't have expected Cam to write an ISO that could rival clipsey's. Also, he is a newbie. Now you're being too extremistic here, if that's the only reason why you're going to vote him.

I won't call back my vote on you, I've made my mind.

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I didn't expect Cam to make a great post that found all the scum. That's why if you notice, my post against him says nothing about the quality of the points he makes, just the (scummy) way in which he makes them.

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Well then. Uh... ok. So, I'm around. Personally, I was about to say screw it and ask for an extension. Which I'm going to do anyways, because no one is here and not enough has been done.

Excellen: Can we pretty please have an extension?

Beyond that, does anyone have votals? If we can't have an extension, who would be your preferred target?

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I'm asking for an extension for a couple reasons. A) we've barely had any actual useful discussion as town, B) there are plenty of people who need to input more, and C) it's 3:30 in the morning and I don't feel like trying to deal with this right now because I shouldn't be awake right now.

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I highly doubt that we're going to get an extension. It's really our own fault that the largest wagon currently (I think me) consists of like 3 people. If I had to choose someone to lynch, I'd pick Cam, but at this point basically any lynch except me is going to be a last-minute power wagon, and neither of us like those. Cam also hasn't been here to defend himself, so I think that just this one time, I wouldn't be averse to a D1 Nolynch.

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Ugh, ok. I was in the middle of doing votals, and then lost it due to accidentally refreshing the page, but it looks like right now BBM has four votes on him. Which means unless we get five people in here we can't no lynch. Which means if we want to avoid lynching the claimed rolecop, we'll need to find someone else to lynch. Ideas?

Also, I'm claiming to be talking with eclipse, and the message she wanted me to pass on was that she thought most likely Rapier and BBM was a town argument that was going to allow scum to slip by. Which could continue to happen. Thus, keep that in mind when figuring this out.

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@strawman: you're sorely missing the point.

I 'claimed' early so that town doesn't cripple itself with pointless discussion on D2 in case I die. Thanks for completely misinterpreting everything, you lumped it together with everything else even though I actually had a reason and purpose for mentioning it. That's what makes it different from, say, arguing over elie's miller claim or continuing the SK/third-party stuff. That's pointless. But when I want to at least give town a fair warning to prevent something I see happen every game in which there are two deaths in a night phase, well

it's giving me the impression that maybe you're upset. I might die already and that upsets you, doesn't it? You're looking for an easy target and it won't work here.

Huh, I think maybe you misinterpreted my misinterpretation of you. I never said I didn't see why you said that you might die and I never said I didn't think you had a reason. The thanks at the end of my comment was sincere(though reading over again I can see how you might read that as a snarky "but thanks" at the end, sorry). I just found it weird that you would bring it up right in the middle of the day when it would seem like it would be brought up either closer to phase end or during the night since that is when it is more relevant.

Let's see, I have neither started nor been contacted by CP.

And I'm actually not feeling good about this BBM lynch or the fact that it doesn't seem like anyone is going to be here for phase end. I think you are misinterpreting at leas this early phase play because all you're focusing on mostly is that he wanted more people to get in the thread before talking, which he said but early phase he did the most pro town talking that I saw right at the beginning of the phase, responded in a way I found town to my vote on him and really only got defensive ever after haveing already been called defensive when he hadn't been and then generally what seems to be people misunderstanding his posts after that.

I think the person I find scummiest at this point is Aere, and its not for inactivity so don't yell at me for that. That BBM vote from him just looks incredibly bad to me. BBM hasn't been switching his votes any more than I'd say the majority of active players in this game and certainly not what seems too frequently in most mafia games I've been in. I'll admit the one post where he votes Cam and then says "This is the vote I meant to make" makes me uncomfortable like he wasting actually voting for who he wanted before, but compared to all his other content i don't think that makes him lynchable or the vote switching comment viable. Plus the vote doesn't add much besides what another player said, and really doesn't seem to be putting too much effort in with that post.

##Vote: Aere

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Votals:

Levity: Helios

BBM: Rapier, Helios, Bizz, Aere

Camtech: Shinori, BBM

Iris: Paperblade

Aere: Straw

(I think these are right?)

Straw: Please note that BBM has claimed rolecop

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NVM there are 4 votes on me. Helios, Rapier, Bizz, and Aere. Ughhh..... I don't think there are enough people here to swing the vote, and a randomlynch would be horrible even if we could tie.

So I'm going to repost this, and some more stuff:

Nightmare- D1's almost over and he still hasn't done anything. If he can't play, mods please sub him out.

Cam- I made a post about why I found him scummy.

Aere- That last post was bad. His point about Rapier made no sense, and had sort of circular reasoning. His point about me was flat-out factually wrong.

Bizz- I'm leaning town on her.

Paperblade- Same here.

Eclipse- Started off sort of scummy but is looking better. Neutral.

Elieson- I know you were busy, but I don't think you did much this phase either.

Helios- Post more.

Rapier- Fuck I don't even know anymore.

Shinori- ^^

Iris- Didn't do much after early-mid day, but she was much more active than usual. Don't know if that means anything.

Strawman- No clue until that very last post. I don't know what to make of it. He knows I'm getting lynched at this point. TBH it seems like he's trying to get town cred and make it seem like he was on my side all along after I flip. Now I'm leaning kind of scum on him.

Scorri- No clue.

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Well then. Uh... ok. So, I'm around. Personally, I was about to say screw it and ask for an extension. Which I'm going to do anyways, because no one is here and not enough has been done.

Excellen: Can we pretty please have an extension?

Beyond that, does anyone have votals? If we can't have an extension, who would be your preferred target?

I made a mistake in the subtitle and you still have 24 hours left. Day phases last 72 hours and we're 48 hours in.

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I made a mistake in the subtitle and you still have 24 hours left. Day phases last 72 hours and we're 48 hours in.

Blah, I might not have had to claim... But whatever, I'm going to sleep, and I hope to god people are here and active for tomorrow.

So for the people who come tomorrow, do you guys believe my claim? If so, who would make a better lynch target?

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Votals

[4] BBM: Rapier, Helios, Levity, Aere, Strawman

[2] Cam: Shinori, BBM, Rapier, eclipse

[1] Iris: Paperblade, Levity, eclipse

[1] Aere: Strawman, scorri

[0] Nightmare: Paperblade

[0] Raper: eclipse, Levity, Strawman, Paperblade, BBM

[0] Paperblade: Shinori

[0] Elieson: Cam, Aere

[0] Psych: scorri

[0] Shinori: Elieson, Paperblade, scorri

[0] scorri: Iris

[0] Strawman: Iris

[0] Levity: Helios

[0] eclipse: Rapier

[0] Helios: BBM

Voteless: Nightmare, Psych, scorri, Elieson, Iris, eclipse, Camtech

If there are any mistakes, please let me know.

Also BBM, if you could put your votes and unvotes into a new line, that'd be fantastic.

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Okay, so I just woke up. Two more users contacted me by CPS while I was asleep, so make that three. I haven't actually initiated contact with anyone myself.

I'm going to catch up to the thread

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