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^There is no point.

@Aere: It's basically what BBM said, say there was no Rolecop at all, just an alignment cop. Why would there be any indication of Elieson scanning as a Serial Killer in his Role PM if there wasn't one?

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##Vote: Strawman

Now Aere just seems more weird. Anyways, I've been planning to switch to a Strawman vote for a while, but his general indifference to rolecop lynch + early instances of kind of trying to fit in make me feel uncomfortable.

Definitely considering leaving my claim with someone, esp. w/ Paper's tunneling, since I won't be around for a good few hours before deadline, unless you guys want me to claim before I leave.

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So the fact that he's claimed as miller means the inspection isn't useful anymore. The situations people are talking about is if Elie hadn't claimed, and had instead been scanned and found to be either third party, or SK depending on the cop role.

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Iris I'd really prefer you to not claim unless you need to because I'd prefer to not have lots of claims getting flung around early. It can only help the mafia to know roles. In SFM, the mafia knew basically all the roles as of D3, and as such were able to kill all the power roles one by one. I'd prefer to avoid that happening again.

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So the fact that he's claimed as miller means the inspection isn't useful anymore. The situations people are talking about is if Elie hadn't claimed, and had instead been scanned and found to be either third party, or SK depending on the cop role.

Irrelevant then, I wouldn't even be talking about a SK if there hadn't been a claim. Isn't that scummy, to discuss a theoretical SK?

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Someone try to send a CPS to scorri to confirm if she's lying.

And yeah going "HEY GUYS CHANCE OF SK?" is scummy because it's pointless but is technically game related and thus not everyone sees it as active lurking even though it is.

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Out a list of your CPS conversations so we can confirm if you are lying about having left it with someone.

Sorry for taking so long, was getting times down.

(all of these are for 7/15/2012 + I'm EDT)

(1) Nightmare: asked for it at 2:45 AM, mods started it at 4:07 AM, receiver replied at 1:51 PM.

(2) scorri: asked for it at 12:36 PM, mods started it at 1:06 PM, receiver replied at 1:42 PM.

(3) BigBangMeteor: asked for it at 4:16 PM, mods started it at 4:46 PM, receiver replied at 5:09 PM.

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Paper: It'd be kinda stupid to lie about that...

Aere: People aren't really talking about there being a SK or not anymore. What they're saying is that Elie's role makes it more likely that there's either a role cop or a full cop as opposed to just an alignment cop because it specifically has him showing up as a SK as opposed to third party. It'd be like if he showed up as tailor or hook or ninja or something like that instead of just scum.

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Paper: two of the three people I've claimed to be talking to have confirmed, and my third is eclipse who I passed a message only from earlier since she asked me to, and no one has cc'd having eclipse give them a message to pass on. She asked me (referred to me as person she was talking to, not by name) to pass it on in thread so that can be confirmed.

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hello, hi, I've been a little busy today. Sorry for that. For those of you who are engaged in CPS with me, I'll probably have more to talk about soon.

##Unvote: BBM because I don't think we should be lynching him now. Are we really going to NL today?

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(1) Nightmare: asked for it at 2:45 AM, mods started it at 4:07 AM, receiver replied at 1:51 PM.

Bolded part is actually 12:45 AM, my bad.

Iris I'd really prefer you to not claim unless you need to because I'd prefer to not have lots of claims getting flung around early. It can only help the mafia to know roles. In SFM, the mafia knew basically all the roles as of D3, and as such were able to kill all the power roles one by one. I'd prefer to avoid that happening again.

Only planning to depending on situation before I sleep, I'll state whether I sent it to someone or not if so.

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Paper: Ah ok. *shrug* Also, I don't really care if Iris claims to me or not. I'd be wary of her claiming to Nightmare mostly cause he may or may not be around for when Iris would need that defense. I will say that I'd be a touch wary of giving BBM roles when he is apparently going to gain more roles in case he's scum rolecop, but if people would prefer Iris claiming to him over me I'm not going to complain.

Bizz: I wasn't planning on us no lynching, but I can't say much as I don't have a vote out right now. I'll be putting a vote down before I run away for the night though.

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I feel that if Aere was scum, he wouldn't be harping on for so long about the probability of an alignment cop over a rolecop. His scumbuddies would probably have told him to shut up.

So ##Vote: Iris

That last vote doesn't make sense. Strawman was not indifferent to my lynch at all. In fact, he was too much on my side when it was too late to make a difference, which is why I'm finding him scummy. Plus, you said that you've been meaning to vote Strawman for a while, yet two hours ago you asked me in our CPS convo why I found him scummy, saying that you had a null read on him. Then half an hour later, you said in the convo, yeah, Strawman is looking bad, probably worse than Aere.

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##Unvote

##Vote: Strawman

Now Aere just seems more weird. Anyways, I've been planning to switch to a Strawman vote for a while, but his general indifference to rolecop lynch + early instances of kind of trying to fit in make me feel uncomfortable.

Definitely considering leaving my claim with someone, esp. w/ Paper's tunneling, since I won't be around for a good few hours before deadline, unless you guys want me to claim before I leave.

Indifference to rolecop lynch? What? Why do I need to say "Don't lynch the rolecop!" when I already made a post that was entirely too long saying why I haven't and don't find BBM scummy and that I don't think we should lynch him. And I didn't know giving my opinions every now and then was trying to fit in and not just what I'm supposed to be doing during a mafia game.

Also on the subject of rolecop, I don't see a reason not to believe it at this point unless its counter claimed or hes found to be lying about results or something. Since Elieson said he would show up as ITP!SK and not just ITP, doesn't that make sense to go along with rolecop? Maybe thats what 1 of you said already but I'm having a hard time understanding what yall are all trying to say about this.

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