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HELLO KAI HOW ARE YOU!!! Yes, I've been following. 😄 It's great to see it finished... the Dream of Fifteen years....
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the mad lad did it, ty ty
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(please join bbm's game)
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We also did Friendship Tier Lists (of your friends on SF) in 2011.... what a time to live in.
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And that's a wrap! Told you all it would be done before the end of the month (thank you Hawaii Standard Time). Thank you to all the players/subs/spectators/checkers/co-host.... love you all, we should do this again some time, and don't forget: Mafia sucks.
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ROLE 4: WATCHER/VOYEUR @BBM You were the Mafia MVP for obvious reasons (which includes being not affected by scum malaise, of course).... you NEVER GAVE UP, even when the going got tough, and you were able to get tons of misvigs and miseliminations in the process, even though it was doomed. I really wish Shinori shot you N2 to put you out of your misery, though. Thanks for playing BBM, you're a good sport. Setup Comments: The Mafia info role, except we didn't want to be GENERIC and give scum a Role Cop to start with -- we wanted you to use your SUPERIOR INTELLECT to deduce the doc picks, etc. A starting Role Cop would be more helpful, though, especially with the 1x roles. This is the weakest scum role, though, and very unlucky this was the last one alive.
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ROLE 3: ROLEBLOCKER @charlie_ RIP the scum rand malaise got you hard; I think you know what made your slot so scummy, but I probably would not have subbed out in your position just because it seemed a bit doomed for the next person in although at this time, you wouldn't have known Cam was going to get vigged... if only your slot got vigged to put you out of your misery. I am sorry you can't stop randing scum in all your recent games, which is quite rough. Also sorry you didn't win your EiMM game. With you + Refa getting FoSed so early, it makes me wonder if it's less optimal for scum to even participate in RVS -- or at least ghost those first 12 hours of the day, as much of the town showed up far later in the day -- like 18 hours+ and got more of a pass. You were a good sport even though I teased you in like 3 other Role PMs. 😅 I don't really think I need to go in what went wrong in why people scumread you, scum demotivation is real, but the last minute Makaze vote park probably didn't help the D1 EoD in getting the vote off of Refa (probably leaving the vote on Weapons or Rapier was more optimal, as people were more willing to lynch those two at the time). @Duskfall98 I am so sorry you subbed into this game, since I really didn't want to sub charlie's slot as I figured they would just get insta bodied which they did. Some people were rude to you and really didn't let you play, which was crazy, especially as you hadn't even been confirmed by a report but just by your slot's previous scummy play...? Wild, I guess. This game doesn't count as a loss for you, imo imo. Thank you very much for being a good sport and subbing in. I don't think a JK claim would have worked; instead of laying down and dying, maybe the most optimal strat was to claim Doc and let someone CC you -- I was surprised you hadn't done that, but I think timezones / the hope you could fight your way out existed...? I know BBM entertained it briefly. You get an honorable mention for Mafia MVP, since you tried your dang hardest. Setup comments: I felt pretty strongly Mafia needed a full-time roleblocker as the Town had some pretty strong roles that needed to be blocked. Not really any comments here.
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ROLE 2: MAFIA KILING @Refa Refa... 😠I wish you came back at the end of the N1, but unfortunate that phase end time coincided with your commute and you were generally having a bad day IRL that day for other reasons as well. I don't think you would have been lynched if it was a 48 hr D1, but unfortunately scum malaise was real and they got you. Your claim probably would have been better if you ended up claiming VT or just stuck with 1x alignment cop, as the additional parts made some on your wagon double down. It also didn't help that a lot of people on your wagon had earlier timezones and had to bail out early... overall, thank you for playing boss, but it was rough to watch the scum malaise (charlie's words)... Might've just been better to sack your slot D1 and claim something like Doc etc, or just straight up claim full-time alignment cop and dare people to Elim you so you could get that Strongman off. Setup Comments: The inclusion of the BPV change was to hint to the mafia that the Town either had a Vigilante or that there was a SK. The role in general hinted at a Tracker (since the Mafia had a Watcher), and of course, a Protective Role. We wanted the Mafia to be generally aware what they had to look out for without confirming it. You all logically deduced pretty quickly what you were dealing with.
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ROLE 1: CONSIGLIERE GOON @CT075 SO SORRY CAM that you rolled scum instead of Town for an easy coast. But you did your best, even if your Weapons vote was scummy af (would have looked a bit better if the wagon switched to Weapons organically -- was hard for BBM to predict that Percy was going to vote for Weapons though, and Elie coming back at the end messed things up). I appreciate you were one of the more motivated scum members (which I suppose was not hard). Setup comments: This role was made sort of to mirror town (weak) backup, but be a slightly stronger version without being Roleblocker Electric Boogaloo 2. It also changed pretty heavily thanks to the Full-time Vig (ugh, the real bane of this setup), since there was a high chance a good Mafia PR would be eliminated early, so this role would scale based on when / where other partners died, so the mafia wouldn't be mech-locked into a loss because of all the Town PRs alive. The role name was changed because we didn't want people to autoclear Weapons for their claim of backup, since the initial role name was Backup Goon. Which was not technically correct as it got some abilities that were not quite backup (i.e. a rolecop shot for each un-used JoAT ability), and was supposed to get a x-shots of the RB + WatcherVoyeur on partner's death.
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Off-Site Mafia Traitors The flavor for this was pretty funny. At first it was just to be communities that SFers had abandoned SF for -- i.e. MU, Smogon, EiMM; but I needed a 4th, and epicmafia seemed funnier than MotK (the latter is SF's greatest NOC allies, anyways)... Regarding scum chat, it is unfortunately very difficult to port because we made it a group chat (shoutout to BBM who made the group Discord chat before everyone read their roles and spoiled Scum alignment/rand to them, RIP). Upon request in the Discord SF Mafia, I will try to post excerpts, but there really isn't an easy way to release chat at this time. These were the following safe claims provided - I suppose I was a bit confused at what they had mashed up as Refa's claim; a 1-shot Alignment Cop or even just VT would have been safer. In hindsight I probably would have changed town to have more VTs, and somehow acknowledged that a good safe claim would just be... VT. But hey, it be like that. 1-shot Alignment Cop 2-shot Empowerer 1-shot Question Asker BPV Oracle Vanilla Townie (w/ the option to claim this multiple times, to hint that there were multiple VTs) Hunter (originally mistyped as Vengeful because I thought the two were the same) Voyeur
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ROLE 12: VIGILANTE @Shinori I don't think I need to explain why you were Town MVP -- D1 aside (where you had a commanding presence even if your reads weren't necessarily correct) -- but not enough where you'd get shot for this -- you successfully shot 2 scum (we'll ignore all the townies along the way). Perhaps you would have been more conservative if it was a x-shot vig, and it would have been curious to see if you would have just shot Rapier if Weapons ended up being lynched (or vice versa), but that is another universe. Good work Shino! Setup comments: This role shouldn't have been full-time, but I listened to the checkers, smh. Never again. 😒We ended up over-correcting 3 other roles last minute because of the worry the Vig could just carry the game on their own (which almost happened -- imagine if you had just shot BBM like you had originally thought about)!
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ROLE 11: TRACKER @Bluedoom You played well in my opinion; actions were logical, reads were generally fine. Ended up wagoned on D1, since like you said, I've never seen you not Wagoned after RVS especially as Town. Why does this keep happening? No clue -- something something, PLEASE TRUST ME JUST THIS ONCE. Luckily you were also a Town PR -- BBM (aka the whole scum team) had no idea you were the tracker, which helped a lot too. Setup Comments: As mentioned earlier regarding design philosophy, we wanted investigative roles that would still encourage scumhunting. If we really wanted to take a page out of MU's book, Tracker would have disabled when there's only one scum alive lol. But we're not MU. The Town seemed sufficiently strong enough with a Vigilante which was why we didn't add in another investigative, although if we did, it would have been a 1x.
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ROLE 10: DOCTOR @Sunwoo I think taking a backseat is correct when you have a protective role, and you stayed cool when you were wagoned on D1 (successfully preventing the Doc turbo)...! Your Doc targets were logical, even if you never ended up saving anyone, except I probably agree with Dunn's logic that protecting the Tracker over the Vigilante was probably more optimal, since the Tracker can generate more clears due to the majority of the scum team being eliminated. That being said, it obviously didn't matter much at all, since the Town was heavily in the lead at this point anyways. Setup comments: It was pretty non-negotiable by Conq to put in a full-time protective in this setup. We ended up deciding on a Doc pretty quickly because it's iconic.
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ROLE 9: UNIVERSAL BACKUP @WeaponsofMassConstruction Thanks for playing even if it wasn't enjoyable that people were casing you/your play style leads to people FoSing you... Unfortunately Universal Backup is a scummy claim -- although the 1xs bit instead of a full-time role correctly signaled to the town that you may not be lying about this... I think you did your best Weapons, and thanks for playing, you are one of the OGs after all. 🫡 Setup comments: This was a role that got overcorrected on with the Vigilante to full-time changes - so I am glad it died before the other PRs. With the worry that the town was too strong after the upgrade when we were overcorrecting mafia backup/BPV thanks to the Vig upgrade, the role got downgraded into 1x Reporter (the even crappier Motion Detector), 1x Bodyguard, and 1x Activist Vigilante (need a NL to get your Bullet -- the Governor NL counts too). Originally it was just supposed to be 1x Follow 1x Bodyguard 1x Vig - not really sure, would have to look at the notes to be sure.
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ROLE 8: COMMUNICATIONS INVENTOR @j00 I appreciate the hustle of you trying to ask if you could use all your abilities in a night... Also I appreciate you calling people out for poor mafia habits / behaviors. Tell them like it is j00! Like BT, you had a pretty strong D1 -- I'll give BT the slight edge (but honorable honorable mention since you played quite well), but it was very close between you two. Thanks to timezones, you also stuck with your guns re: Refa and were rewarded. Your role actions were all logical for who you targeted -- and very helpful, in Ichigo/Dunn's case thanks to Makaze ending the night early that one night. Shinori's paranoia might have suspected you briefly, which is in no way a slight against you. Honestly, we haven't played that much together and I had a pleasure watching you and enjoyed how you played. Setup Comment: Respectfully disagree with -- I forget who it was -- said that this role was very unlikely to be mafia, since SF has a strong history of Mafia Neighborizers, Announcers, etc., and at some point, this was considered for the Goon Role!! But yeah, ultimately MU checkers didn't appreciate the power of NEIGHBORIZER and ranked the power of this role quite low, smh.
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