CT075 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Cam: Can you put your weird feeling about me into words? That'd help everyone probably. If it's a gut read, I understand that, but if there's more to it, it'd be useful to hear? the part of my brain that is good at conspiracy theories (see: me in higurashi) had some thought of you and bbm cc'ing each other for town cred but that'd be an absolutely horrible move for scum so ?_? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I had considered the possibility of scum claiming the same game and one of them getting town cred for getting the other vigged but I dismissed that because that's really silly given the claim and flip (ie if scorri doesn't die tonight, she's a possible lynch target for being scum as well, which is just plain disadvantageous) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Yeah I have to say, it really makes no sense for scorri to be mafia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 wow okay same thoughts that's weird I'm well inclined to think that scorri is town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aere Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Scorri is obvtown because BBM wouldn't have been lynched if she hadn't vigged him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 ok yeah i'm dumb MAKES SENSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 actually you can't self target so BBM couldn't self lynch protect there would have to be another lynch doc which would just be stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 gogdammit manix also Kay I see you why don't you come on down? Had been distracted, was catching up on stuff. Oh, already? oh, ok I think I get it. Rapier's pretty obviously scum. #734 alone makes me suspicious and that's not even getting into his roleclaim. Bluedoom is also pretty suspicious and he seems like he's jumping to conclusions as a whole. His N1 is also awful. Kirsche has not voiced anything and I've barely seen him all game. This could be due to real life issues but meh, he rubs me the wrong way. ##unvote Smells sheepy to me. Kirsche hasn't posted a whole lot, but I think objecting to his opinions makes more sense than objecting to a lack of his opinions. What's "awful" and "pretty suspicious" about Marth? Not that I think he's looking great, but I wanna know your basis for that. Rapier roleclaimed? Roleclaimed what? I may have missed something, but I'm not seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aere Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Let me rephrase what I said: What would have happened if scorri didn't vig BBM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I... didn't vig him? Like... I support the idea of me being town. But I'm not the dayvig. I don't get where people are getting that. I've claimed Lute from Sacred Stones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 we would have lynched BBM easy (can't self target, check the rules) and we wouldn't have the plan we have now and scorri DID NOT vig BBM herself, an unclaimed dayvig did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aere Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 My fault, I misread scorri vig'd BBM (which was confusing me). What I'm trying to get at, BBM was going to die no matter what. He would have been lynched. So, why is scorri causing him to get vigged, both wasting a vig shot and giving her town credit, such a pro-town move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 wait wait wait wait why would BBM claim lute then if a theoretical scum cop scanned scorri, what's to be gained from claiming the exact same role there's a guaranteed counterclaim, as well as outing the fact that there is a scum cop, and if we had lynched scorri instead we'd have vigged BBM right away (either ED3 or just N2) the gamble of praying that SB had done a bad enough job to get BBM more cred than scorri gives me a VERY bad feeling THE ONLY WAY i could think of this being a potentially good move is if they hadn't considered a town dayvig, in which case they lynchdoc'd bbm and prayed that we'd go for scorri instead ED3 ?_? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 THE ONLY WAY i could think of this being a potentially good move is if they hadn't considered a town dayvig, in which case they lynchdoc'd bbm and prayed that we'd go for scorri instead ED3 IGNORE THIS LINE i forgot about "no self-target" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Cam, I will repeat this again; They would need a second lynchdoc because you can't self target anyone want to suggest a game with another lynch doc that was picked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 IGNORE THIS LINE i forgot about "no self-target" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 and cut lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 @Prims: First of all, going to say that I have a gut feeling on him, but I think it's supported by material in the thread. Just to get that part out of the way. OK, so post 300, (where he moves to vote Elieson), as I previously mentioned, strikes me as misrepresenting elieson as not even really participating. 394's explanation was pretty paltry imo since he goes to wishy washy as opposed to having no real opinions from his previous post. #514, second has him stating that he can't scumhunt as well as you, which, while it may be true for everyone in the game, sounds a lot like his claims of inexperience from earlier on in his mafia career. WRT the gameclaim: Prims, just because he gameclaimed doesn't really mean much in my eyes like, it was in response to the Visil speculation, but he just said "I picked EO, so no" to me that feels like a brush off to shut up that discussion but might just be me This is probably worded the best. His second to last post is scummy as fuck as previously mentioned, also considering that that would give lynch doc another night to doc a scumbuddy. And, his last post doesn't really make sense, considering his game claim. Why would he be worried about being given cred for that vig kill when it's pretty obvious from his gameclaim that he couldn't do that? I dunno, it strikes me as odd. So, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 but that just further proves my point why would they think that claiming a role that the town is guaranteed to have be a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 that last post was @manix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Smells sheepy to me. Kirsche hasn't posted a whole lot, but I think objecting to his opinions makes more sense than objecting to a lack of his opinions. What's "awful" and "pretty suspicious" about Marth? Not that I think he's looking great, but I wanna know your basis for that. Rapier roleclaimed? Roleclaimed what? I may have missed something, but I'm not seeing it. 1. I thought Rapier claimed his role was EO mafia but refused to actually specify or something. At least, that's what I remember. To be fair, when I thought we were still roleclaiming, I didn't actually specify who exactly I was anyway so that might be a bad argument on my part but still. Its really minor compared to the the whole BBM vig BS shit though. 2. First off there's Marth hounding Elie for awhile but then backing off very quickly. And then there's his half-assed defense of Aere. Also his reading comprehension is pretty poor (wtf at scorri having a role from Shining Force mafia for example). I know, lol at me for complaining about poor reading comp amirite? 3. Kirsche rarely posts so I might not have seen all his posts. But his behavior is pretty odd like ignoring the Aere bandwagon. Idk, its partially a gut feeling I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 but that just further proves my point why would they think that claiming a role that the town is guaranteed to have be a good idea so they can force out the cc and make an easy kill target and you can't assume that they would have thought this completely through all these assumptions about scumcop is just weird as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 hold up one second who speculated about scumcop first I have to brb, so I can't do it right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 scum cop is the only viable explanation i can think of that would explain how he managed to cc scorri's exact role (well that or absolute blind luck) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I had considered the possibility of scum claiming the same game and one of them getting town cred for getting the other vigged but I dismissed that because that's really silly given the claim and flip (ie if scorri doesn't die tonight, she's a possible lynch target for being scum as well, which is just plain disadvantageous) read this cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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