Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Claim time. I am a Tracker. And Terrador, YOU visited Euklyd last night. Explain yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Also, Three Town deaths... And so far nobody has claimed any of the kills yet, which really worries me. It could mean that the maf had more killing abilities on top of their nightkill, but... The Sniper's Dead. More ITP probably? SK on the loose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Also, Three Town deaths... And so far nobody has claimed any of the kills yet, which really worries me. It could mean that the maf had more killing abilities on top of their nightkill, but... The Sniper's Dead. More ITP probably? SK on the loose? uh not defending terrador here. But I do not think that really justifies as evidence as I visit Euk's profile all the time as well as yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Junko. Terrador did SOMETHING to Euklyd during the NIGHT PHASE of this game. Euklyd is dead. Go put two and two together please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 True but can we really call someone scum based on the fact that he visited Euklyds profile during the night phase. But you have a good point I will check mitsuki's and SB's now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 ......... Junko... Are you just a bit on the thick side, or are you doing this on purpose? What I mean, is that for whatever his Night Action is, Terrador did it on Euklyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Can confirm that Wen tracked Terrador. Not sure what Junko's trying to do... night actions =/= profile visits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Whoa, quoting thing got all wonky, so hopefully my replies (bolded) end up in the right spots. I think this is potentially telling, about both Terrador and Marth. But I'm not sure a Sky lynch is worth it just based on this hunch, as Sky's last post seems logical and not something that mafia would want to speculate to the thread about. Everything since his "I'm dropping my SB case" is actually looking solid to me... which is confusing. Agreed, which is why I'm looking forward to hearing from Blue moreso today-- wait, where did the Sky lynch part come from (not sure if that had something to do with what you were replying to, or...?)? I wouldn't try to barter information with Terrador and yourself, whom I believe to be town... if anything, I would've tried to coax night action information out of my scumreads. I asked for thoughts from those particular four because, as stated previously, I felt that I would be able to take what they said at face value more so than anyone else. Unfortunately, I've said as much as I can without giving scum information they can use. I figured as much with the last statement (since you never opened up more regarding it). Was more of my speculation than anything, really. Wanting to see/hear more from Shinori, Blue, Kop, and others who have yet to start back up with D2 (and a bit on Junko regarding Kirsche's inquiries), so we can hopefully get more to work with. [And cut by a lot of posts since I went afk before I could post this.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Well lets wait for Terradors answer. Then we can judge. Also before I ask something I want to make sure it is legal. Say someone in this game keeps their profile views private. Can I request them in this thread to let us see their profile views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The confusion is real. True but can we really call someone scum based on the fact that he visited Euklyds profile during the night phase. But you have a good point I will check mitsuki's and SB's now. Your assumption/thought of Terrador visiting Euklyd's PROFILE is incorrect. Green Poet and Kop/Wen are saying that, during the NIGHT PHASE OF THE GAME (in terms of NIGHT ACTIONS), Terrador used an ability or otherwise did SOMETHING while targeting Euklyd. Therefore, Terrador was seen at Euklyd's place, targeting him. That's why they are asking Terrador what his night action was, based on the fact that something he did was aimed at Euklyd (and as we can see, Euklyd's dead now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I don't know Eury, I'm 50-50 between Junko being a true utter newb at this, or is faking it hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrador Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Alright, I'll get to my ISOs after this (if I have time after the grilling), but y'all have it on the money. I killed Euklyd last night, in the hopes that he was scum. Sadly, I was wrong. Here, I'll drop in a spoiler my thoughts, from a QT I wrote. [spoiler=Why Euklyd?]Here's my logic on my kill. I tried to rule players out. Terrador: No, duh. Eurykins: Probably the towniest person here. Mitsuki: No way I'm killing an almost-confirmed mayor. Mafia mayor is dumb, and there's a slim chance it could be a thing, but eh. Green Poet: Also towny as fuck. There are FAR scummier targets. Wen: He could be scum, BUT if he defends himself poorly, he's getting lynched anyway. Sky_Paladin: As Wen, but scummier in my opinion. SB: Definitely town. Handed them Refa on a silver platter. Breezy: Null-read, passed over in favor of scummier targets. BBM/kirsche: Null-read, passed over in favor of scummier targets. Bluedoom: Null-read, passed over in favor of scummier targets. Junko: Alright, I think this guy could be scum, but he's so bad I have to call it a null-read. This brings me down to Shinori and Euklyd as stand-outs. EUKLYD: He's made one constructive post all game, nitpicking things and trying to look helpful when he isn't doing any real scumhunting. This VERY much reminds me of my own behavior in Drafters', not to mention that his online status is private! This adds him to the list of suspects for the vote-swapping. He talked about Refa being his scumbuddy all game long, which feels very WIFOM and intended to confuse the town when one is lynched. I wouldn't play this game with another townie, because that would just confuse town. He also makes a half-assed case against lynching Refa, which is also scums. SHINORI: Hasn't really done shit all game. His reaction to pressure seems SUPER self-preserving scum to me. However, there are a few factors that clear him to some extent. His online status is public, but he's not on Charlie's list; he hesitated WAY too long to accept Refa as mafia, which would take incredible WIFOM balls as scum to do (as opposed to town paranoia in a bastard game). Further, he's lumped with myself and Mitsuki under FFM's list of people who haven't posted (and, implicitly, should be considered for a mislynch). I don't think FFM is sophisticated enough to throw his own buddy under the bus. All said and done, Euklyd seems like the most clutch kill; difficult to define as scum, but stands out above almost everyone else. If he isn't, my other candidates have TONS of town support for lynch anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ok Terrador, so you're a townie Vig then? A Night Vig? Any use limits? I'm asking because we also apparently had a dayvig (Whoever killed FFM yesterday), and a Vig that can shoot in day AND night feels kinda OP to me, as does having two vigs on the town side. (That said, the maf got TWO kills of their own as well last night, and that's after we bagged the sniper to boot, so...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 You seem... awfully prepared to answer for your Euk kill. I would have killed an inactive/lurker (lookin' at you, Breezy) if I were you, and find it questionable that you thought that he, BBM and Marth were poor targets because of your alleged nullreads on them. Going to read this more intently when I get the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrador Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 You seem... awfully prepared to answer for your Euk kill. I would have killed an inactive/lurker (lookin' at you, Breezy) if I were you, and find it questionable that you thought that he, BBM and Marth were poor targets because of your alleged nullreads on them. Going to read this more intently when I get the chance. It's because I keep a running QuickTopic of my thoughts. Would posting it, complete with appropriate timestamps, clean me in your opinion? Mods: I made that topic. May I post the link here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Oh... Sorry for being stupid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Terrador, just wondering, but why didn't you claim the vigkill on euk earlier? as in, before I pointed it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDRHAWK Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 No Terrador. Keep your QTs to yourself. I don't recall mods ever approving that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Poly, check your PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Well I would assume because mafia would kill him. Also a question. Say Terrador is Town but he gets killed or lynched, will it still be possible for him to win the game if town wins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrador Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 You seem... awfully prepared to answer for your Euk kill. I would have killed an inactive/lurker (lookin' at you, Breezy) if I were you, and find it questionable that you thought that he, BBM and Marth were poor targets because of your alleged nullreads on them. Going to read this more intently when I get the chance. Wow, I just realized why this might seem scummy. I failed to elaborate one thing: seeing as this is a role with kill power, I wanted to keep a QT going for a better postgame. Terrador, just wondering, but why didn't you claim the vigkill on euk earlier? as in, before I pointed it out. Because that would paint an incredibly large bulls-eye on my chest for the mafia. I was hoping to play this quietly, sniping scum without being suspected. That said, better to claim now and have the lynch directed at scum than to have town waste a lynch (and a kill, if my priority beats scum's) on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Say Terrador is Town but he gets killed or lynched, will it still be possible for him to win the game if town wins? Yes, he can. If you're dead but your faction wins, you still win along with them, unless you've been modkilled. After this game I'm totally going to have to PM you links to some mafia wikis, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrador Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yes, he can. If you're dead but your faction wins, you still win along with them, unless you've been modkilled. After this game I'm totally going to have to PM you links to some mafia wikis, lol. Any reason you couldn't just link them in this thread...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Terrador, please answer some of my earlier questions, Post #762 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yes, he can. If you're dead but your faction wins, you still win along with them, unless you've been modkilled. After this game I'm totally going to have to PM you links to some mafia wikis, lol. I mainly researched the roles and what they could do before this game. Will probably look at more conditions and abbreviations. Still uhh now that you have basically admitted that you are a vigilante can you please clarify if you killed FFM terrador? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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