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    The Second Well

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    Sap Sipper Azumarill is the true goat.

     

    1. 12 Players to play NOC with?

    2. 12 players to play OC with?

    3. If you could make a pokemon, what would it be like? 

    4. What's the real truth about hull bois? Why can't you read? 

    5. Favorite scumteam you've ever been a part of?

    6. Favorite drink? 

    7. Can I dm you about the multifaction game now? I'm scrapping Type-0 it sucks

    EIMM: Edge of the Lord Edition [Game Over] [Winners: Refa, Elieson, Monde, Lord Gaius]

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    Posted · Edited by Lord Gaius

    On 1/2/2018 at 9:15 PM, Lord Gaius said:

    Edge of the Lord Tier List, N3-N4 Plus Mack Edition (now ranked from strongest to weakest in tiers as well!)

    Top Tier 

    King Bradley

     

    High Tier

    Dullahan: This role does everything. "Crucible"'s target is unbelievably screwed, losing a BPV, their secret identity, and the ability to act next night. The shot limiter can be remedied by having allies shoot your crucible target. Stealing someone's role pushes this over the top. It also didn't need the extra BPV, but that's there, AND it has the added bonus of being immune to BPV breaks because of when it activates. 

    Rusalka Schwagerin: As I said in Colress, shot hijacker is insanely good, especially when there are no limiting conditions. This role ends up being significantly stronger than Colress though, due to a 1x High Priority buff being far more valuable than the slight informational leverage Colress had. 

    The Dreamer: Commutes are good. A commute where you also kill someone else is even better. The Dreamer finally has access to a shotblock, giving this role a surprising amount of sustain.

    Juvia Luxor

    Akira Kurusu

    Kamina: Motivators can always find great allies because they can create broken role combos. Kamina also has the benefit of "Gunman Pilot", giving this role some self protection and not leaving it totally helpless if others don't ally. 

    Solidus Snake

    Colress

    Ganondorf: Alas, poor Ganon was dealt a taste of his own medicine. "Triforce of Power" is a solid protective ability, preventing your death at least once over the course of the game. Can ramp well with extra BPVs. Makaze's Scorn is an interesting ability, useful early game for chipping randoms down, and could even save an ally from death if you use it more like a CPR Doctor. 

    Hedghehog: A plethora of neat tricks are enough to bump A Hedgehog up to the bottom of High tier. Being immune to high prio means your actions will always go through if they shoot you. Immunity to the first round of shots is very useful, and a full hook, while it has the same limitations of many other abilities in this game as being unable to target someone more than once, rounds out the kit to be strong and balanced.

     

    Mid Tier

    Dark Mage: Incredibly powerful abilities... which are all one shots. Fitting. "Dark Night" looks like it could have applications for creating false backstabs, an idea we don't see much in EiMM. Bus Driver is insanely powerful, and carries this role to the top of Mid tier despite being a one shot. A two night delay is strong lategame, where you can finish the game before those actions can be processed. 

    Megumi

    Ram: Full hooker will never be bad. Unfortunately, Ram can't hook the same person twice, which could cause problem late game once your pool of enemies has slimmed. "Clairvoyance" is ok, nothing special but seeing what roles your target uses makes it far from useless.

    Tenebrae, Dark Centurion: This roles takes a lot of planning to use effectively but the rewards can certainly pay off. Knowing where kills are coming from is useful in target prioritization, and you can also set up some neat mass roleblocks late game if you prime the right targets. The degree of difficulty to use this role well bumps it down though, closer to Top Mid, Low High, in terms of raw power. 

    Andy Taylor

    Makoto Nijima

    Prince Magus: This role ramps nicely, but is prone to being one shot on early phases before it gains the full usage of its abilities. However, if it can survive to 0 BPVs it is definitely a threat to look out for. 

    Friedrich Nietzsche

    Akane Tendo: Loverizer is insanely funny, but it's hard to utilize properly, and can only proc once. Delayed blocking someone's actions is very lackluster. Loverizers are still really good though, carrying this role above some mid tiers. 

    Pepsi Man: Shotblocker is decent, but this role can't make enough money to have much of an impact with the list of "Corporate Greed" abilities. Taking four nights to gain a singular BPV or five nights to become Strong Willed is inefficient. The ideal use of "Corporate Greed" would probably be buffing "Thirst Quench" to block actions as well, which is not spectacular, maybe the Rogue could prove useful too.

    Karel

    Yandere-Chan

    Yandere-Chan: The two yanderes ended up being very similar to each other. While having good abilities, the fact that someone is hunting for you, and some of the abilities are locked is a strong counterbalance, dropping them to Lower Mid. 

    Sasuke Uchiha: It has the same weak protective ability as Han Solo, but i'd say a direct Alias cop, even when alternate night, is more powerful than seeing Usernames only when you're shot. Han Solo shafted thrice.

     

    Low Tier

    Han Solo

    Vona, the Butcher of Magan

    Saitama: This role still sucks!

    Life Tier

    None, yet!

     

    The Second Well

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    Posted · Edited by Lord Gaius

    12 players to fill an NOC game with you?

    An OC game?

    Let me teach you how to play UU?

    How would you fix Smogon and Competitive Pokemon as a whole?

    Idea for an original Pokemon? Typing, stats, flavor, etc.

    Best plays in your opinion as all three alignments?

    EIMM: Edge of the Lord Edition [Game Over] [Winners: Refa, Elieson, Monde, Lord Gaius]

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    Posted · Edited by Lord Gaius

    Edge of the Lord Tier List, N1-N2 Edition

    Top Tier

    King Bradley: This is what Han Solo wishes he had. Not only do you gain information, but through the self delay, you gain the power to actually change what actions are hitting you, provided your game control is strong. An incredibly strong power, easily the strongest role revealed so far. 

    High Tier

    Juvia Luxor: Juvia has a plethora of great abilities than she can gain from her already decent ability to stop one shot on her target for free. The only downside to her role is that she can't control which abilities she gains very well. This role could have had creative applications, such as targeting known kills to gain strongman, etc, but unfortunately it died early. 

    Solidus Snake: This role also has a wide number of advantages to be gained. Lie Detector is a good ability to determine where you stand among alliances and enemies alike. The fact that is also action blocks your target is a bonus. "Damn the Patriots" is a great ability to blindfire, either resulting in you gaining info, shooting your target, or both!

    Colress: "Man of Mystery" and "Researcher" both are weak, being nerfed info related abilities, but being a full time kill hijacker is too good to matter. You even get to keep your regular shot, albeit with forced targeting, thus not removing a kill from the pool to gain your hijack. Very strong.

    Akira Kurusu: An inventor that can do something for themselves for once! This role would have to hide the fact its items drain BPVs from allies, but the abilities themselves are strong, and the fact they drain BPVs plus the fact Akira can use one of her own abilites once gives this role more selfish attributes then Inventors are usually given.

    Mid Tier

    Makoto Nijima: A decent role, the poison doesn't kill anyone, only breaks BPVs, which is unfortunate, but "Too Fast Too Furious" is a strong ability. Permanently Rogue-ing someone can have devastating effects come late game, so long as you choose the correct targets, pushing this role into Mid Tier. 

    Andy Taylor: A useful info role! Probably because it also get's a potential double shot with easy to fulfill requirements. More often than not, at least one of your targets will have shot someone successfully, giving this role strong offense as well.

    Yandere-Chan: A role with a lot of abilities, none stellar, but none bad either. I don't like the design choice of having to kill someone else in the game, but Yandere-Chan has decent potential should it kill its other, with Abduction being a strong protective ability, and roleblocks always being useful. Info Immune is the icing on the cake.

    Megumi: Megumi might not be able to do anything for herself, but she has the strongest protective ability revealed so far, which is always worth something. Adding a BPV is also good so you never waste actions even if your target is never shot. Need to find allies makes this slightly weaker than the High Tier roles.

    Friedrich Nietzsche: An interesting take on high priority. Gifting it to someone else can lead to some dangerous role combinations. However the ability is alt-night, and while "Ubermensch" isn't weak, it's certainly lackluster compared to "GOD IS DEAD".

    Karel: Once again, Han Solo gets shafted. "Get Ready for a Challenge" is a 100% upgrade to "Force", gaining aliases on both shot and role usage. Full Roleblocker is arguably stronger than a doc that doesn't protect BPVs as well. 

    Low Tier

    Han Solo: With no forms of self protection, Han Solo has trouble by itself. He might get usernames that shoot him, which is very helpful to find out backstabs, but with no forms of self protection, it is unlikely he survives a stab at all. "Force Mastery" is also a weaker protective ability than some, still allowing a target to lose BPVs, although obviously preventing death is good.

    Vona, the Butcher of Magan: This is basically a worse Saitama. It is a BPV Breaker (albeit with the potential to store up charges). Storing up charges is nice, but it still can only kill one person at a time, and it has a lesser output of damage than Saitama does. 

    Saitama: This role at first looks great, but none of the additional abilities can actually kill their targets, leaving it weaker in the long run. It's an upgraded form of a BPV Breaker, a role on the weaker side of the EiMM spectrum. Still, this role pumps out a lot of brute damage at the very least, useful for cleaning early game. It has come to my attention that both abilities on Saitama are one shots. This role sucks!

    Life Tier

    None, yet!

    The Second Well

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    Posted · Edited by Lord Gaius

    Favorite games other than mafia?

    Do you like any sports?

    Do you enjoy where you live? If you don't mind, where do you live?

    12 players to play NOC with?

    12 players to play OC with?

    The Second Well

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    Posted · Edited by Lord Gaius

    3 minutes ago, Paperblade said:

    God mobile SF sucks dick I can't quote and can't even edit out this post fuck. (Now it's Rein time)

    The Second Well

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    Can we continue our streak of rolling the same alignments?

    Because the world is a cruel place, what are you going to do when i'm scum in the next game?

    Favorite FE Heroes art? Favorite Regular FE portraits?

    Join Zeo's game so we can run it back?

    Favorite types of music? Examples for each genre?

    Most busted EiMM role you've ever had or wanted to have?

     

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