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  1. MrPerson0
    Reddit is probably one of the worst places for discussion due to how the upvote/downvote system works. Instead of using it properly (whether it contributes to discussion), I've noticed that a lot of people simply downvote or upvote others whether their opinion is similar. GameFAQs, while a cesspool, is better than Reddit in this case at least (though both have huge userbases), and of course, SF doesn't have a vote system and has a very small userbase. But she would be fixing the system in her country. Nothing even told her (other than her father, who was wrong) that she had the right to fix Fodlan. Doesn't change the fact that they were apparently the ones who forced her to go to sleep for a while back then, and that they were around right now and knew about her blood. Yes. Doesn't mean that they will easily take it away, which is why I keep on saying it will lead to a civil war. Yes? The Agarthans have committed far more atrocities than Rhea did, and a good amount of it was done through lying/deception. This is still a pretty big assumption that you are making, especially when everything pointed out by the game shows that the Agarthans were the aggressors and are not to be trusted.
  2. MrPerson0
    It's still better than a continental war. Also, if Rhea attacked Edelgard for starting a civil war in Adrestia, in that case, Edelgard would be much more justified seeing that her war (against the church) was retaliatory. Except the Agarthans were? Pretty sure that was the entire point of Seteth and Flayn going into hiding. By the time of the Holy Tomb, she had an army of her own already given to her/under her control, especially when she easily overthrew Aegir. She could have easily told them that they have changed plans on who to attack, especially if she chose to tell the truth about who they were working with. If the other nobles were annoyed at that, that's how it would escalate into a civil war. And overthrowing governments by disguising themselves as others. The is literally lying. You are assuming that they were forced to follow Sothis even though we do not know that this is the case. All we know is they were apparently warmongers, and that they set their sights on Sothis.
  3. MrPerson0
    That is exactly the point of the lies and cover ups. It's to make sure the public didn't know about them, or can potentially discover them. In that case, she really didn't need to work with them if she feared them having a grip over the Empire. She could have simply started a civil war in her own country and push her ideals there without affecting the rest of Fodlan. The issue is she believes that only she could fix Fodlan. Except the Agarthans have been around just as long as she has been, and thus, have been lying for as long as her. There's a reason that they are the outright villains of the game. And, as far as we know, the Agarthans were the ones who started the war against Sothis instead of simply trying to coexist with her.
  4. MrPerson0
    This was to protect the remaining Nabateans from persecution (since telling the truth about Nemesis and the Hero Relics would have to mention them). And also, it's better to trust her over people who are threatening you with nukes. Just like you believe that Rhea isn't really trustworthy, the Agarthans themselves aren't really trustworthy, especially seeing with what they are willing to do to get what they want.
  5. MrPerson0
    Shouldn't that be a valid assumption to make seeing that the Agarthans hate Rhea/the Church? If Edelgard actually bothered to talk it to Rhea about this, things would have drastically changed.
  6. MrPerson0
    To the point where he already gained enough power from the Agarthans by killing Sothis, then went on to nearly exterminate the rest of her race/children? Going to have to be a hard disagree with any chance of Nemesis being noble like you are trying to theorize.
  7. MrPerson0
    That is true, I was just pointing it out as a possibility, seeing that it is as much as it's a theory that Nemesis wanted power to protect Fodlan from Sreng. Just wondering, which stories showed that they are possibly romantically involved? The closest I could find was a stage play being reference in one of the DLC books, but that likely wasn't really accurate. I wouldn't say it's inconsistent to say he wanted world conquest because it's clear that he wanted power, and apparently had no lines in terms of getting it. I do admit that he didn't obtain conquest, but it's clear that he had some sort of control over Fodlan (seeing that he likely kept on creating war/strife).
  8. MrPerson0
    Depends. It's possible that he did, and Wilhelm chose to betray him so he could control Fodlan instead . That being said, there is nothing that contradicts the church saying that Fodlan is suffering under Nemesis, and Maurice calling him a "King" is what backs this up. He might not have had a government, but he seemed to have chaos wherever he went.
  9. MrPerson0
    If Nemesis wasn't unwilling to tell the Ten Elites about how he obtained his power, he likely was still working with TWSitD, who he had to have known were willing to take over the continent. It doesn't make sense that someone would hire you to kill the supposed god of this land without wanting to have power.
  10. MrPerson0
    It's best not to trust the wiki on info such as this. The page on Nemesis has been wrong before I brought it up. Still would be hard to say since the Agarthans were the ones who wanted to conquer Fodlan, and, as you said, he worked with them. I highly doubt he just wanted power to take out invaders, or else he wouldn't have gone through drastic measures such as killing the god of Fodlan and killing the Nabateans with a massacre.
  11. MrPerson0
    True about Adrestia forming, which likely wouldn't happen if Nemesis had an iron grip over the continent. The fact remains that Nemesis had some rule over Fodlan, we just don't know how much. This falls in line with his followers calling him "King". The Ten Elites formed their own houses/clans after all (possibly over northern Fodlan, which is where their houses still reside), and Rhea even mentioned that he had followers (when she reveals the truth in Verdant Wind).
  12. MrPerson0
    Do you not think that this happened within that timeframe? He was working with TWSitD after all, and they gave him an immense amount of power since they wanted to take out the Nabateans and rule Fodlan. There has to be a reason that he is called a "King", I doubt a bunch of bandits (the ten Elites) would give him that title for the sake of it. That would simply mean that anyone loyal to him would have joined him, especially if they viewed him as a King already.
  13. MrPerson0
    Not necessarily. Maurice still calls Nemesis a king, and I doubt that he would follow the church's lie, so it's possible that Nemesis started to take over Fodlan after his attack on Zanado. The Ten Elites apparently accepted some offer from Nemesis (likely ruling over Fodlan) without knowing what he did at Zanado as well (from one of the books in the Shadow Library from the DLC).
  14. MrPerson0
    There likely would be a civil war within the Empire that Edelgard would have to worry about, seeing that a good amount of nobles were expecting a continental war to take over Fodlan. Of course, this is better than a continental war, and I doubt Rhea would want to feed into the conflict unless Edelgard/the opposing forces start persecuting members of the church like Edelgard did in non-CF routes.
  15. MrPerson0
    Isn't Fates the only game with a Phoenix mode? Awakening, Fates, Echoes, and Three Houses have Casual though.
  16. MrPerson0
    Assuming that it was all so the teach could run away is not really much to go off on, especially compared to what the Flame Emperor outright said (wanting the bandits to kill the leaders). Also, if she stayed back at camp instead of helping her fellow peers, it would look pretty bad on her. As noted above, even though she says that, it's highly doubtful since her soldiers or beasts likely will end up killing them if they are in range. Telling people to get out of your way as you commit a crime is a pretty silly thing to say as well. In that case, I do agree that she if she did less evil things (due to Agarthans not being around), she would be better morally. Of course, we do not know if this would truly be the case. For example, I doubt that the Agarthans told her to keep on persecuting members of the Church (non-CF routes).
  17. MrPerson0
    Ah, so it's an in-battle quote. Definitely dubious since any of her soldiers would still be willing to kill them (along with the beasts as you mentioned).
  18. MrPerson0
    Which is why we can only say that Edelgard is either incompetent, or she was just really hoping that at least one of the leaders would luckily end up dead. Also, no one in the story managed to trace the bandit attack back to her anyway, and we do not know if the Church would act any differently if one of them ended up dead. For the bluff, she only says that if you join her from what I recall. She is going to kill you and your students if you oppose her. As for causing little harm, we really have no clue if she would try to do that, and an invasion is still an invasion.
  19. MrPerson0
    Eh, she still hired the bandits to try to get Dimitri and Claude killed, along with trying to kill her former teacher and students in the Holy Tomb on her own, which I'd say are still very big reasons to not join her.
  20. MrPerson0
    Reddit is the worst place to have discussions on anything. The reply system is nice, but people always abuse the voting system, using it as "I agree/disagree with this" instead of what it's meant for (whether it contributes to discussion), which leads to legitimate posts being hidden from the majority. Regular message boards such as SF and GameFAQs are betting in that regard at least. And yeah, I do agree that Three Houses isn't all that it's cracked up to be. One of my biggest issues with it is the story (mainly random differences between routes along with keeping some things). I'd say even Awakening's story is better than it.
  21. MrPerson0
    And this ties back to all rumors about the Sword of the Creator, and whether they are true or not (such as Claude believing it can split mountains, though it never happened). Once again, this is the same girl, who in a couple years, (assuming she didn't start planning everything as soon as we see her at Garreg Mach, where she is 17) started planning on starting a continental war with Fodlan by recruiting the likes of people like Jeritza. Since you are going off that, let's go to how she hired the bandits at the beginning of the game to try to get Dimitri and Claude killed, which is one of the worst things she has done (which obviously never came to light with the cast). This ties in to her wanting to conquer the continent, because she knows those two would be part of those who would resist her. When did I do this? I literally said that I never made excuses for what he did in the five years that he was crazy in most routes. A military school which already included practical subjects to begin with. You still are skirting around this and are not actually able to list what they are. We saw Edelgard literally get crowned as Emperor at the age of 18. And don't forget that, for years before that, she has been planning a war against the Church/continent to the point where she plotted assassination attempts (through the use of bandits). Yeah, this is more or less the point I was trying to make. It's astounding how they are trying to shift the (potential) blame to Dimitri and Claude when it was fact that TWSitD always wanted a war no matter what, and the blame has always been pinned on them. Remove them from the equation, and the chances of a war breaking out at this time are practically non-existent.
  22. MrPerson0
    Are you going to say that he thought he would have to battle the Kingdom or something? Unless he knew that TWSitD or Edelgard were preparing for war, that's likely the initial option he would have had. Back in medieval times, 13/14 was enough for children to marry, and, enough to allow them to kill/participate in war. I don't think it's farfetched to believe that Edelgard, at that age, could have committed such a thing, especially when, within a year or two or the tragedy, she started to build her army by recruiting the likes of Jeritza and whatnot. Which, is why I have been saying that battle doesn't make any sense. He says that whether you go to attack him or whether he goes to attack you. And now, you are referring to omniscient knowledge again. The part you quoted about Hubert even shows that he assumes it would be the case. Since they based it all on an assumption, and apparently not facts, it was still wrong of them to attack the Alliance. And as I have said, "practical subjects" is way too broad of a term to know what they are talking about, especially since we know that they were teaching such things already (such as dancing, singing, etc.).
  23. MrPerson0
    Once again, Claude, your points are very flaky on. As for Dimitri, Right after Edelgard state it, we immediately see them assuming that there are prying ears among them. Also, this doesn't change the fact that, right after this, Dimitri found out who the Flame Emperor was, which literally broke him, because as it turns out, Edelgard has been lying to everyone this whole time. Even though he was wrong in her blame him for blaming Edelgard, because she has betrayed him, along with everyone else, by constantly lying and not telling them about who was truly behind it. Unless you are in AM, and they attack you. As I said, no one will try to use this battle to show allegiances because it makes no sense. Thanks for point that out, guess it is true that he is against the Empire. However, this still doesn't mean that he would have been able to attack them because of the split in views. It is when you are trying to make something out of nothing, especially when the part you have quoted ("with a renewed focus on accepting students regardless of status") to try to push the free education part is exactly the same on all paths.
  24. MrPerson0
    I do accept the bad aspects of him. My question to you is, if it was immediately revealed after Lambert's death that Arundel was behind it, and a war started over it, would you still blame Dimitri for starting the war? One thing I have been constantly saying is yes, war is inevitable, but this is due to the actions of TWSitD, not the actions of Dimitri or Claude. You really can't say that. We don't know what he would have done once he pieced more information about Arundel together. What he did with Edelgard is a completely different issue, since he snapped the moment that his crush turned out to be a villain. Seeing that you ignored that Jeralt did not believe a word of what the Flame Emperor specifically said to him, why do you think people should expect to believe the Flame Emperor in that conversation, especially when that was the moment he found out their identity, and that Edelgard has been constantly lying to everyone? I have never disagreed with this, however, the Gronder battle is probably not the best place to try to suggest leaning for one side or the other, since Claude outright tries to attack the Blue Lions as well, which most players thinks makes no sense. Nonetheless, it seems you really have tried to deflect the conversation for some reason. Once again, "feigned neutrality" in this case is trying to make it seem that the Alliance is in one piece, not about which side he chose: Nothing about that actually shows that Claude is on one side or the other. It would be the same if there was a war between the US and Mexico, but there were some provinces in Canada who wanted to join the US. Canada wanting to maintain its country and neutral position wouldn't be seen as siding with either of those countries. That means Edelgard was in the wrong to attack the Alliance there since he never attacked first. If he did, then she would be in the right to retaliate (exactly the same with her war against the Church, since she was wrong to attack first). Because the only difference is mentioning that Empire transforming and rehabilitating the Church, and that it offered more classes on practical subjects. We do not know what these entail, and neither case points to free education.
  25. MrPerson0
    Once again, with your very same logic, if the Empire declared war for Arundel's death, the blame for the war would lie on the Empire, because, like Dimitri, they want revenge. This is how your argument sounds, and not many would agree with it. Uh, Jeralt didn't believe that the Flame Emperor when she said that she had nothing to do with the Remire Village incident either. Are you going to suggest that people should outright believe anything when a criminal says that they didn't commit a crime? Once again, TWSitD are the ones who committed the action first. Suggesting that it's Dimitri's fault if he immediately declared war right after his father's death No, she didn't have every right to attack, because at the time, the Alliance didn't attack them whatsoever. That's like saying Edelgard had every right to start her war, even though she was the one who triggered it. I find it interesting how you point out that, in the AM ending, it just states that Dimitri wanted to create a world free from oppression, but we don't know if he actually did it. However, with that support, we know that Edelgard wanted to create a free educational system, but we still don't have concrete evidence if she managed to go through with that.
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