I think maybe we could still manage to survive without torturing others. I guess you're right, and it'd be unfortunate if it takes us longer to find cures for diseases... but in a way we're only dying from stuff like that because we live too long already. idk. And I don't know, extending our lives is awesome and all of course, but I'm kind of concerned that most people are so comfortable that it was at the cost of many other lives and general wellbeing, you know what I'm saying?
You're wrong. I forgive you.
no. maybe.
maybe we could just actually have some regulations on what you can and cannot do to animals. And have actual consequences when you kill them, so scientists are less likely to treat animals like objects and discard them whenever they want. And maybe even have like habitats for them so when they're not being experimented on they could socialize and hang out with their own species and whatnot. That'd be cool.
Well either way I'm glad you have at least some empathy for them.
also, you had a kid at age 14?
wow I fucking hate that argument.
it's like when people only use religion when it works to their advantage.
Under your logic, humans should still have predators. We should be dying when we do not hunt or gather food like the rest of the animals.
Clearly that is incorrect. we have houses, television, abstract ideas about laws and money. We have higher executive functioning and are capable of feeling empathy and compassion. We are generally not really all that instinct based or nature-like. And when I hear stuff like this I feel like you're pushing all personal responsibility aside and blaming it on some really really generalized idea of "human nature".
Basically, that is a bullshit reason and I am disgusted that people actually think like that. I mean scientific research and potentially curing diseases I understand - that's the reason why I thought it was cool that we were debating about this. But wow "humans torture and kill because other animals do it!!!" is so fucking stupid you can't possibly genuinely believe it to be a solid argument (especially since other animals are nowhere near the extent we are at)?
Anyway. fuck. haha. I'm so tense. I am on a completely different wavelength than the rest of you so this is prob gonna be my last post here. I'm sorry, I can't help it, I somehow managed to be able to view other species as individuals that aren't that different from me, so I empathize with them and get really worked up when others think it's alright to abuse them.
If anyone even cares about the welfare of the remaining disabled monkeys >_> someone filed in a report and the scientists are currently under investigation. hopefully the monkeys will be seized and taken to a better environment to enjoy the rest of their lives.