joshcja
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The real value of this thread is seeing how xenophobia and suspicion can bring us all together as we all independently accuse the same person of a false crime.
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16 minutes ago, De Geso said:
Rev was barely worth it on launch.
20$ was 100% worth the ch18 mass suicide and Jacob's ladder scenario.
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44 minutes ago, lightcosmo said:
As I stated before, I've argued with him before in the FE4 thread, this isn't unknown to me. He's one of the few that says in every FE4 thread: "the maps are large which makes the game terrible" every time the game is brought up, but I certainly didn't use statements like the one bolded, I actually tried to have a reasonable conversation to get my point across, not just throw insults back and forth like kids, what does that accomplish? You aren't going to change his views, obviously, so why get so upset over it?
Wait. The FE4 subforum discusses anything but mapsize? This is bloody pandemonium, cats and dogs living together, madness. That would be like the FE7 board taking a day off from discussing how viable Nino is.
Given the long, long walls of text you're using to say the equivilant of "plz no bully" it's fair to say that... nobody here is angry, you just don't get the joke.
QuoteAs far as luck goes... this is Fire Emblem, what else can you expect? Getting angry about it is silly, since it's going to happen eventually, and I agree that it doesn't make something terrible, cause gosh, even Sigurd can miss, it certainly doesn't make him awful. But I think there's a better way to prove a point than name-calling.
Cognitive bias certainly is a problem here. I don't know much about Fates, and I can say I've missed a fair amount of times in clutch situations too but that's what you get for playing Fire Emblem, really. How does Fates relate to Three Houses, they aren't the same game, and don't have the same mechanics?
To break this down into very simple terms...
The Fates forum is entirely composed of bored shiptoasters and Levant is a meme.
(I'm suspicious that this may be a LevAlt)
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1 hour ago, lightcosmo said:
This response is so useful, maybe next time, you might actually contribute something! Don't give me that one-liner like what your saying is justified. What makes you "right" on all accounts anyways? He can believe what he wants, no need to be so rude about it. Also, I never said he was right or wrong, just that believing in something isn't a bad.
It's 100% truthful, accurate, and correct yes. Defend a posters viewpoints from a position of logic/math/whatever and I'll listen, defend the years long tirade of crap based on vague emotional appeal and I'll react with the emotion inspired...
Apathy.
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Believing in things is absolutely horrifying as often as it is good. The value of belief is weighted by the value of the belief.
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4 minutes ago, lightcosmo said:
Is this actually wrong?
Yes.
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44 minutes ago, starburst said:
You are wasting your time; he is just trolling you. That is what he does. You can describe to him a completely reproducible approach, step by step, and he will still deny it through some convoluted argument that is basically reduced to his feelings and bias towards it.
"You can describe all colours to a blind man, but an obstinate/ fool one insists that the sky missed and got crit once by a ninja for 4 damage and forced a soft reset so the blue in the sky is suboptimal and should not be used" (I do not know the saying in English but, hopefully, you get the idea.)Fixed.
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I don't see guard stance as a reason to guard stance. Levant-2019
At this point I'm becoming increasingly certain Levant is still on ch7. Holding a tea party. Because combat with the units available is something he's never done. Which is genuinely impressive in terms of turn count.
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18 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said:
Who are you suggesting become a Bow Knight then? Selena that will on average deal lower damage due to E rank bow, slightly lower average strength, and lower speed: Laslow that never passes Niles defense averages by more than 1, and is slow enough to needs tonics and meals (and probably a speed pairup too) to avoid being doubled by chapter 25 master ninja (whereas the same help can push Niles into doubling said master ninja instead, and even average Selena can accomplish that feat if she caps out), or god forbid are you claiming shining bow Nyx is a better choice.
Just do yourself a favor and ignore Levant when it starts ignoring math/common sense/established proof.
It's the responsible choice.
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1 hour ago, Armchair General said:
I can see this happening, but when does this happen, exactly?
Because I think this is an rout map and I can initially kill off the cavalry spam, the nearby generals and strategist, and draw in a warrior or two from the hallways. After that, I have 2-4 enemies creeping towards me in addition to what I'm trying to bait.
It's a kill boss map.
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16 hours ago, Armchair General said:
So, can does playing defensively ruin this level?
Asking because I had to trap Saizo in that ninja hell level in Conquest and this is the first time that I've of FE being unwinnable.
The game can literally generate enough enemy stuffage to soft lock the game in this map.
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1 hour ago, Armchair General said:
I'm pretty sure that you have your games mixed up. Because Iago doesn't have a variety of staffs in Birthright, but he does have a few strategists with Entrap scattered throughout the map, which is kind of slowing down my approach because I'm trying to wait out the reinforcements that came after the horsemen.
Yeah, I've thought about doing this, but I can't be at the very edge of it. Otherwise, he won't be anywhere near the dragon vein.
In other news, I can make until the eight turn or so, since that's when they stop sending mounted units at me and I'm free to bait out the rest of them. I'm kind of hoping that nobody goes after the chests on this map.
Don't worry. He just gets entrapped chained straight to the boss.
Clearing the map any other way can softlock the game.
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Hard mode BR
"Better stats than playable units"
"Unfixable 8 base speed"
I'm outa here.
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12 hours ago, Armchair General said:
So after spending quite some time waiting out the suicide units on Camilla's chapter and intentionally stumbling unto the Nohrian training grounds to have Ryoma rush the Berserkers (it worked with acceptable injuries), I'm currently finding myself sandwiched on Iago's map. Thankfully, heavy cavalry has been nerfed and I'm only taking hits from the wannabe magicians and mounted archers. And it turns out that Tomebreaker on Jakob is broken beyond all of recognition. But the reinforcement spam is getting old, at this point, even when I have 12 units caught between the hammer and anvil.
Fuck my life.
Step one, put toniced Ryoma in entrap range.
Step 2. Map is over bye
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23 minutes ago, wissenschaft said:
FYI, Three Houses gets more interesting maps latter in the game, especially in the second half. The lack of weapon restrictions helps you build weapon rank for class changes. That said, the map design still doesn't compare to Conquest. Also, getting sub-par characters like Charolette and Arthur to work is part of the charm to Conquest and that comes from giving them good skills even if you have to buy them. The skill system in Fates is fantastic.
Real talk.
Arthur is one of the stronger gen1 units. He's got a bad CH7 but everyone not named Silias, Corrin, or Jakob has a bad CH7 and he's got great pairup adds there along with bronze axe hitrate and hand axe DS. He scales pretty well into ch 9 and 10 where axes are a stellar weapon type and can make Percy before ch10.
For long term use Be + Dual club + forged handy + brave axe (+15) stack, Luna lunge and Sol with a dragonwife are all greatmazing for a combat unit. He also gets both horse and bird access reasonably early.
Early males are just stronk.
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Damn youuuuuuuuuu
(His tome hand hungers)
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We have a pretty good bar for physical weapon usage in the form of Silias. Who is just default better with any weapon not an axe than their default user and Percy who is... Percy.
On the Magic side our best slide bars wind up being Elise and (G)ODin.
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Eh. +4 damage from her personal at the low low cost of an HP tonic per-map is extremely good.
Having no built in stack past that and shurikenfaire is extremely bad (this is a common failing of BR units)
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9 hours ago, wissenschaft said:
Hmm, my Ophiela when I recruited her in my current run was in danger of getting one shotted by Beserkers with silver axes. But her mother was Elise so I guess that naturally makes her squishy. I don't know what to say but I don't use Nos much so I'll defer to you. I suppose I should try Odin with Nos in my next run since Nos main job is to keep the mage alive, not to kill anyone. And suitability is a key trait on lunatic.
Anyway, the point of my post was pretty much all the weapons in Fates are dependent on the user. Camilla using Axes is a big difference from Athur. I tend to have the whole weapons triangle in my team because WTA is a big deal in the game.Yeah the Elise!Ophy described would have less than her mom-modified base bulk on a late join and Be's are Be's. We'd need tonic + dual auras to let her eat a hit on join.
(I just use all the shines cause if you cannot win covered in sharpswag... did you really win at all?
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1 hour ago, wissenschaft said:
Nosferatu will fall off late game on lunatic when promoted enemies with silver weapons have so much attack that they one shot your mage.
A Nitpick...
This simply does not happen, not even vs dragonsbane weapons on -def Corrin!Ophelia using LaD. Silvers fail to kill after negative chain enfeeble staves on CH28.
The bulk gain from stack goes to +21 without touching long term resources.
(Admitedly the only mage using nos over forged tome/rev gate VLaD after X/15 is Odin but he caps Def and HP regularly so implying that anything can actually kill him is equally disingenuous)
I guess Nyx can get one shotted? If this is the case I wasn't aware that ch9 was late game.
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Axes = Tomes >>> Bows = Knives >>> Swords = Spears >>>>> Beast stones.
Swords and spears have situational uses and are fine early game.
Nosferatu, lightning, horse spirit, brave axe, Bolt axe, Calamity gate, and Dual club are simply the best weapons in this game by an enormous margin.
The special royal swords are just sharp tomes.
The true Yato(s) is a statstick that eats inventory space. It's function as a real weapon is pretty trash as dealing 75% damage against dragonskin is worse than dealing double damage on everything and it's a 1-1 forged iron sword on EP.
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Levant making the argument that shurikenbreaker reverse gate Ophelia isn't a MN hose with 0% hitrate in 25
(Felecia!Ophelia still hits kill numbers consistantly)
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*scrolls up, see's Levant questioning VLaD users again*
On a productive note any decent Ophy can take Srioposte from Soliel very quickly to hit every kill that isn't a double crunchwrap supreme at +15 (where we actually want full cap and +17-+20 or a proc).
@starburst
Elise gives lunge early. Which on ophy is essentially free boots that go through walls. It's pretty good.
Since Ophy has natural access to perfect stack from birth, Corncob is only really passing +1 mag cap.
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4 hours ago, Pengaius said:
Well, it's really more that the majority of your magic users (children excluded as they vary too much) are either sorta bad as a unit (Nyx and Orochi are hella squishy, Hayato joins underlevelled and is only okay, Odin is kinda lacklustre Leo is similar to Odin but has Brynhildr, which makes him a little bit better but not that much, Camilla is straight up better with an axe and Izana ain't too good either) or have to learn from E after promoting from a physical class, with barely any magic, the only particularily good learners of magic are base class healers and the avatar, and generally enemies in this game have more res than the previous games, magic is only truly good on a handful of (non child) characters.
This is entirely inaccurate. All of it.
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22 hours ago, Pengaius said:
While you do get some good utility tomes, it's still just that, tomes, which kinda suck in this game (all magic weapons do really even the shining bow is bad as a weapon by its own merits)
Nina's Paralogue gives the aforementioned shining bow, which while being a shitty magic weapon, is still good against fliers, and allows Niles to capture bow users without retaliation as well as make it easier to capture physical enemies with more def than Niles' squat attack (mainly generals and knights and whatnot) as well as some money, and a goddess icon (there's also a partner seal but that's pretty much just more money tbh)
Magic bow as a weapon < Tomes
Capture utility from Magic bow > Tomes
Just dump her on Xander for 8 maps and then yeet her back to the bench, or promote her and use her as an offence backpack. Although she can throw a mean hand axe and that's not nothin.
I like how in 2019 someone is claiming magic is bad in fates.
That's adorable
Obligatory ignore Levant reminder.
Weapon tier list?
in Fire Emblem Fates
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*points to my image*
Waaaay ahead of you.