@ LM...idk haha, i like it this way..maybe im just weird XD But Karel's pretty damn tall compared to Raven, so we imagined him more lankier than Raven..
i probably do somewhere on this laptopl haha, no i like my avatar :(..
it was mine and Mercs interprtation of what he would look like if topless..and it meant studying his offical art to hell..which i didnt mind haha