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  1. omegaxis1
    However, you claimed that it makes little sense why she didn't join an anti-Imperial faction in CF, when it's clear why she wouldn't join an anti-Imperial faction in CF. Just because Constance states that she'd have opposed Edelgard had she known earlier doesn't mean that she would immediately choose an anti-Imperial faction. She does still also desire Edelgard to help restore her House.
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    Did you see Constance in Chapter 12 of the CF route? It's still during Part 1.
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    Then you didn't see Constance's comment after? As I mentioned above, the key difference in CF with the others is that in CF, the students are all there WITH Byleth. They SEE Rhea have her meltdown and turn into a monster in front of their eyes. It's what made them all be willing to hear Edelgard out. And Constance decided to pressure Edelgard and learned of her past. So no, it makes sense what made Constance join Edelgard.
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    Honestly, I feel one key thing people tend to forget in CF (particularly those that thing that it makes no sense why anyone would join Edelgard) is that it's the route where everyone sees Rhea having a meltdown and see her turn into a giant monster right before their eyes. Not exactly something that people can just unsee once they see it. It's quite the reality breaker there. It's why they are willing to hear Edelgard out, and why she can actually explain why she's fighting the Church. You can't exactly explain why you are opposing the archbishop because no one would believe that the archbishop is secretly a dragon that's been disguising herself as a human for over a thousand years. Taking into account how long Rhea's been alive, it makes people wonder just what Rhea had or could have done. It's easy to make your own deductions and think that she could have fabricated much history, and even manipulated many events. And given how many students are fearful of Rhea because of how they have seen how she acts in situations with such ruthlessness, it makes them more unlikely to trust in the Church. And knowing what Edelgard is fighting for, wishing to remove the Crests, allow a meritocratic government, and so on, many characters would be on to fight for such a cause. Cause a lot of the students hate the Crest system, and commoner kids want to have social mobility. Honestly, I feel that CF is the better route when it comes to realism. Since it's the one route where you can't recruit everyone. The other routes make terribly little sense. Honestly, many students don't even work in the other routes. Hilda in AM for one thing. Why would she be willing to fight under the army of Dimitri when he's being a literal lunatic?
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    Isn't that how people would in the other routes? The point of the other routes is that you don't truly understand Edelgard and what she is seeking to accomplish. You don't see her side of things, and therefore, it's easy to just call her a villain. It's only when you see her side of things, through her route, that you realize that she's not truly a villain, and simply someone that is doing what she can in a shitty world. It's like how in Code Geass, we see how the Japanese people are so heavily oppressed that it's only through Lelouch's acts as Zero that the people of Japan actually saw hope.
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    Yup. People were suffering and oppressed. They would cling to anyone that they could believe in and gobble it up. Especially people that are very much lacking in education. They'll believe anything they hear.
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    I believe it was in FE4. During the period of oppression, people doubted Arvis and his rule, and there were rumors of Seliph, Sigurd's son, being the true heir.
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    When the Loptr Church took over, Lewyn also used that to also spread the belief that Deirdre was already wed to Sigurd, and Seliph was the firstborn and rightful heir to the Kingdom, overall invalidating Arvis's claim and making the people hate him. They would believe this more because of the chaos that the Loptr Church created.
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    In Kaga's notes, it's expressed that Azelle rebelled against Arvis, but because Arvis was seen as a good king, the people supported him and saw Azelle in the wrong.
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    If Edelgard died, then the Agarthans would continue to control the Empire and just keep spreading their influence until they create another Nemesis copy. As humanity gets more desperate for Crests, the Agarthans would be able to perform heinous experiments on children. They'd definitely infect more of Faerghus and the Alliance.
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    I think it goes to bring about the case of how Edelgard doesn't hide behind the excuse of "I didn't have a choice" situation. All paths of Edelgard lead to war or the suffering of countless people. Her choice was whether she was willing to make the most out of the shitty paths where she gets what she wants out of it. If she went with the pure selfish route of what she wants for herself, she would choose revenge, and just wage war against the Agarthans. What she chose to do was be willing to change the world even if it meant working with her tormentors. And she definitely holds fault for lending Jeritza to Thales, which is why Remire even happened. The Agarthans clearly don't treat their relationship with Edelgard with equality. Despite how Edelgard threatened them, they clearly weren't fazed, treating it like a child being in a phase. Hell, in CF, Arundel/Thales immediately sought to punish Edelgard for killing Cornelia by blowing up Arianrhod. She isn't a pawn, but they definitely see her as one.
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    I mean, you see the Japanese people being oppressed, even slaughtered, by Britannia, and then you see how Zero is viewed by the people as a hero. You have Japanese kids or some Japanese workers trying to run around with capes and masks, going about how they are Zero. The Japanese people adore Zero, and they show a lot about the oppression itself. Now if the anime was strictly about Edelgard's route, Crimson Flower, the animators might actually do something similar, showing how bad the corrupt nobility is, and how the Church is not all that good, and how the corruption is that bad. And then they would show how many people in nations actually praise Edelgard as a liberator or savior, for how she opposes the Church and seeks to bring justice. People don't think much about Edelgard's efforts because people don't SEE the corruption or rationalize the problems. And because they cannot SEE it, they don't believe it's even there. They are like Flayn, basically. Flayn is a naive girl that thinks that the world is just fine and the Church is just great. Seteth is not as naive and understands that Edelgard has legit reasons to oppose the Church, but he likely doesn't want to admit that so much, or is rationalizing it as something that doesn't warrant Edelgard's actions. Let's consider Lonato's Rebellion or the Western Church's actions. People insist that they were the ones in the wrong, and the Church isn't wrong in what they did, despite how what Rhea did can actually be considered oppression. Unless people see the Church kick a puppy or something, they'll just insist that Edelgard's war is unjust.
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    Also, there's much more mixed morality at times with Edelgard to how people perceive it. Where no one has ANY issues with Lelouch's radical efforts that is basically acts of terrorism, where he brainwashes, manipulates, and murders countless people, because Britannia is shown to be a seriously racist people that oppress the Japanese, reducing them to a mere number, they insist that Lelouch's radical acts are entirely justified, and thus hate on Suzaku, who wants to play by the system. People don't feel the same with Edelgard, where many disagree with her radical acts and try to prop the idea that everything she does is wrong. Or that her radical efforts are entirely unnecessary. I think I get what you're trying to say. You're saying that because there isn't much of a choice to begin with, it feels like it defeats the point of how Edelgard chose to work with them. Right?
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    Yeah. In fact, the entire reason that he was opposing Euphemia is cause she's getting in the way of his plans to get revenge, and what made him calm down from that is when Euphemia stated that she had given up her claim to the throne. Then the "joke" happened.
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    This video really goes out to express the stuff that I love about Edelgard and how she's very much like Lelouch. And overall asks the big question about Edelgard's actions, of starting a war to attain freedom from the system, and whether it was actually the right thing or not. The answer is best understood if you actually watch the video from beginning to end. It isn't long, but it really tackles so many important things that makes you aware of how the struggle is.
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    Thing is, having a personality problem is an issue if it's actually properly called out and it actually has a moment where you realize that you screwed up because of that. despite how people try to go about that Ephraim is the reason Renais fell and such, it's never properly called out in a manner that really works, so it might as well go over people's heads or that it just doesn't matter. Eirika's flaws are CONSTANTLY exploited and shown to get her into trouble constantly. Ephraim's are never actually exploited that it would be presented as any form of actual flaw.
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    That's the burden of being a leader. Frankly, Fire Emblem really dresses up these perfect leaders that does no wrong quite often, when there are many people that will not like how things are. Like mentioned, I don't see Dimitri actually having the mark of a true leader. I can't see him as someone that is really capable, despite how the ending portray him as this great king. But some try to think that he is the best type of leader because he "suffered alongside his people", or that because he lost his path, went astray, and got redeemed, that makes him perfect. It's this idea where people thing that the ideal leader is someone that suffers alongside his people, but there are various leaders, and there's no such thing as a perfect leader. This is a quote that actually indicates it, from Dragalia Life, but a princess that governs her own land.
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    If anything, she would be judged and criticized for being an incompetent ruler that abandoned her people.
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    That's basically the best way to go about it. Even if it was the only way, you can say you don't like it and don't like Edelgard for doing it.
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    The problem with that is that you didn't take into account the other party's beliefs, as well as how the nations are. Though you could argue that Dimitri "may" be willing to help for revenge, the Kingdom is overall an ally of the Church, and thus the Kingdom wouldn't actually oppose the Church by any means. Edelgard had tried to approach Claude in Part 1 of VW, but Claude himself is unwilling to trust her because of how he is fearful of Fodlan's xenophobia. Not to mention that the Alliance isn't exactly a unified nation, as Claude is just a sovereign duke, not a prince. And ultimately, the effort to purge the Empire is something that would also result in war, therefore, you aren't choosing a morally righteous path as you are still bringing war to Fodlan and causing many innocent people to suffer and die. The Agarthans basically hold strong positions in the Empire, along with the corrupt nobles that back them. There's no path for Edelgard that isn't stained with the blood of innocents.
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    Yeah. Innocent people would have suffered and died no matter what she did. A war was going to happen no matter what. But if I had to guess, people wouldn't judge her as badly, because Edelgard would be the Nyna-archetype. The damsel princess in distress, who fled from her country and needs the help of another country to save/defeat her country and put her back in power. It happened with Nyna, then FE6's Guinevere, then FE9's Elincia, then FE10's Sanaki, etc. However, this isn't about "saving a country" over how the system is the issue here, not the management.
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    Or she could submit to the Church. Tell Rhea everything, obey the status quo that is Rhea's doctrine, and let her country be destroyed to put her back as the leader, but at the cost of forever abandoning her ideals and beliefs. If you consider it, the Empire is basically roughly half of Fodlan itself. Attacking the Empire would still result in massive casualties on all sides. So after the war, all Edelgard can hope for is that the next generation is better off.
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    So your teacher goes with that the end never justifies the means. But here's the question I present that basically is the case for Fodlan. What SHOULD Edelgard have done? It's so easy to go with the morally righteous beliefs, but is that really what will work out always? Her nation was under the Agarthans' control. Rhea refuses to let go of power to anyone but Sothis. Religion is taken seriously, so Crests will always be worshipped by the Church. Commoners are uneducated, so they won't really know what to believe beyond nobles and the Church. As @Hilda had said, Edelgard has to tread through dangerously thin ice, where a single misstep will result in utter ruin. And leaders don't get the luxury of making entirely righteous choices. Some decisions they make will result in unhappiness for others to benefit some. The thing is, the morally righteous path can exist if everyone is willing to accept such a path. Or more than anything, if people, especially those in power, are willing to believe in it. And to that, I have to also present this. If you take the morally righteous path, refuse to dirty your hands, but your efforts amount to naught and still people suffer, or are even worse off, then are you actually morally righteous? Or are you just someone pretending to be morally righteous, when you still make people suffer? Either way, your paths will have blood in them.
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    It's the same for how calling her a "dictator" is just an indirect way of calling her Hitler. Since most people associate the term dictator to Hitler.
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    That's Rhea. You know, the lady that wanted Sothis to come back so that things would go BACK to how they USED TO BE.
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