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As you said, that the game's detriment. But your and @Jotari's arguments that Edelgard owes some kind of apology for it after is just silly. Like, no, she doesn't owe any apology for that, because in the end, the one that chose to fight her was them. Byleth and the BE students fought her, and when at the end, Byleth chose to defend her, everyone then saw that Rhea go crazy and express the desire to kill.

Just as it's uncool of them to try and stop her and put her in danger at Rhea's hand. Like, the BE students all literally expressed their fear of Rhea's harsh punishment to anyone that dares to oppose her. It isn't the BE students' job to defend the Holy Tomb. They aren't actually part of the Church. If anything, the fact that they are people of the Empire would mean that they have more of an obligation to stand down, as Edelgard is their Emperor.

You forget the biggest difference. Edelgard is their FRIEND. She's not JUST some bandit. Not simply someone that is their enemy. She's a friend. Someone that they've spent time with for a while and got to know, and have fun together. Yeah, it's a shock to learn that she is the Flame Emperor, who is suspected to be in cahoots with people that are their enemy, but even then, that's not suddenly a case where they can suddenly just jump in and fight Edelgard as if she's an enemy. And Edelgard even asked them to not interfere, with the added threat that if they do, they will be putting their lives at risk. It's a case where the BE students have legitimate reason to just let her take the Crest Stones and be on their way.

They weren't in danger if they didn't intervene. Again, Edelgard is their friend. Saying that Edelgard is committing banditry is not a justifiable reason to fight against her, especially when they oughta be aware that any effort to do so means putting their lives at potential risk, and more importantly, if they win, Rhea would undoubtedly order Edelgard's execution, given how that's Rhea's MO when it comes to anyone that dares to oppose the Church.

No no no. You don't get to go about arguing about that kind of logic when at the end of the situation, they all realize that they are about to enter into war. There's no such thing as trying to force Edelgard to suddenly bow out an apology because she can't explain that the archbishop is a crazy dragon in disguise. Fact of the matter is, what you are trying to demand of Edelgard is over a case of petty dispute when the result is that Edelgard ultimately showed zero intention of actually harming them. Fact of the matter is, Edelgard has no reason to apologize. By the end of the incident of the Holy Tomb, every Black Eagles member and other party member realizes that Edelgard was someone that bore the burden of the truth of a serious secret, and they are about to go into a war against the Church. Trying to say, "You owe us an apology because you tried to raid a tomb, despite how us trying to stop you nearly got you killed." Like, no.

And thus, you answered your own question. Neither were fully right or wrong. Both did something and ultimately, they let that be water under the bridge. By no accounts should Edelgard apologize for her actions, nor should they ask for forgiveness for not understanding the situation.

Again, she gave them fair warning. They had a choice to not intervene. They have zero obligation to meddle. If anything, when Edelgard proclaimed herself the emperor, it actually gives them more of an obligation to NOT get in the way, because she is the leader of their nation. Edelgard isn't expressing intent to harm so long as they don't meddle. Your "moral" argument isn't even an effective factor when morally, you would actually help your friend, not fight against them. They don't know why she's doing it, and instead of actually trying to find out later, they instead fight and ultimately put Edelgard in harm's way at the end, where Rhea ordered Edelgard's death. If anything, the moral argument is reversed at the end, where they are the ones in the wrong by putting their friend in danger.

Which I literally pointed out already. They CHOSE to get in the way. Not that Edelgard gave them no option. She gave them a clear choice, with a clear warning that if they did, it would be a life threatening situation. They chose to forgo her warning. Why should Edelgard be, in any way, held accountable for that in CF? If anything, learning the truth in CF makes them realize that they fought Edelgard and put her in danger because they decided to not listen to her.

And guess what? They knew the consequences. Why would they get upset because they decided not to listen to Edelgard when she asked them to not get in the way? She was their friend and emperor, so by all accounts, they oughta listen. They didn't, and the order to kill is them choosing to take their chances, even though she clearly makes it clear that she never wanted to go there. You can say that Edelgard is doing banditry all you want. It does not change that Edelgard told them not to get in the way. They had a choice, they chose, and then realized why Edelgard was acting that way. Cause and effect.

Edelgard didn't attack them. She even asked her friends not to get in her way. She didn't order her soldiers to attack and kill them. She ordered them to collect the Crest Stones. And asked her friends to please not get in the way. What did they do? They got in the way. They took a stance and tried to fight her. And after that, in CF, they end up seeing Rhea go berserk, declare her intent to kill Byleth, and turn into a vicious monstrous dragon. By all accounts, they are more inclined to listen to Edelgard because they have reason to understand that Edelgard's opposition against Rhea suddenly makes sense.

... Dude. They literally said it to you several times. Edelgard told them not to get in the way. As I said above, it's basically Jack trying to get out while Will is blocking the door. Jack is asking Will to get out, and if he does, his life is spared. Edelgard didn't order her friends killed, she said that if they get in the way. Meaning that she's warning her friends not to meddle. Guess who meddled?

A better comparison would be in the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie when Will was blocking Jack's exit while Jack held Will at gunpoint. Jack asked Will to move, but Will refused to, making Jack ready to pull the trigger. Will could have just stepped aside and let Jack get away, because his life is on the line, but Will actively chose to stand in Jack's way, by his own choice, pushing Jack to nearly pull the trigger.

Really begs the question about why the BE class and Byleth are all of a suddenly ready to jump into fighting against Edelgard at all when they aren't even sure yet. And they are basically fighting to kill more, given that they kill the soldiers, like Metodey. Then again, could be that seeing Rhea suddenly go crazy and turn into a huge raging dragon and Edelgard seeming to know make them wanna hear some answers from her. But yeah, I don't deny that it wasn't exactly handled the best.

Apart from the mere human that actually beat him. And someone that Sephiroth could enjoy making suffer the same pain that Sephiroth felt. Then Cloud ended up overcoming that pain and Sephiroth hated Cloud for it, hating that a human could overcome a pain that Sephiroth hasn't gotten over.

She also states when she fights a Black Eagle Student in the BE route that she wasn't actually serious when she said that. Add in that none of the students actually die, and in Silver Snow, any defeated units are said to have joined her still, it basically means that she kept to what she said, that none of them would die, but she claimed they would in an effort to scare them.

Lucina's outfit is terrific. But that face...

LOL XD Lon'qu, you would try that.

It's not the first time that Treehouse would screw a line up.

I would actually question the face he's making and now I'm wondering if this is not yet another mistranslation by Treehouse.

His dialogue says otherwise if anything.

It makes even less sense if it was Edelgard's plan. Think about it. The quote literally states that his employer pays more than this treasure is supposedly worth. The employer being Edelgard. But if he was sent there by Edelgard, and hell, didn't even know that Edelgard was there, then his presence makes even less sense. The random monologue is nothing more than fluff for story things that we know. Same for how Dimitri asks Edelgard about her hair color.

Thank you so much.

That's basically the point. It's to draw attention to the main story. He literally plays no real role in the story other than a reference to how there will be an attack on the Holy Tomb in a few months. But his appearance here isn't part of Edelgard's plan, it's literally hm being there cause Alfreic hired him to steal the Chalice. Like, dude, it's made clear that these attacks were orchestrated by Alfreic. There's no "Edelgard conspiracy" that you're trying to push onto here.

His quote of the "few more moons" is literally a reference to the attack on the Holy Tomb. Cindered Shadows happens after Chapter 4, but long before Chapter 11 timewise.

Because this guy literally shows up one time in the entire story of 3H, and this is the only other time he'll ever show up. He's affiliated with the Empire, but he was not there cause Edelgard told him to be there. He's there cause Alfreic hired him for this situation, hence why Metodey literally had no idea that Edelgard would be there, is shocked, and is thus trying to plead with Edelgard for the blunder.