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But my point was how low the chance of an enemy pulling a crit actually is, not necessarily just my experience with getting critted. I understand there is such a thing as enemy critical hits, but it almost never happens.

Charlotte has a skill growth of 50%. She has the massive crit boost from Berserker, and with a Killer Axe, only Beruka and Arthur can really get the same ratio, and they don't do nearly as much damage. She has a solid hit chance once she's been leveled a few times, and honestly, the enemy units never crit anyway. There have been very few times in FE, just generally, where an enemy has gotten a critical hit on me. It may possibly not even be a two digit number if you don't count killer weapons. And I have played many of the games in the series. Charlotte doesn't have to worry about getting critted because no one has to worry about getting critted, not even in Fates (unless your name is Arthur), her luck growth is 50% and her speed growth is 65%, meaning that she actually will dodge attacks often (which is calculated before critical hit ratio is in the RNG). Berserkers aren't built to get hit, they're designed to kill on the first hit with their critical ratio and monstrous strength. And when they don't, they have a safeguard in their high avoid and great HP stat. You shouldn't be dissing the character, you should be dissing the class if the problem is they get hurt easily.

I think both of them prefer General, although you might want Benny to get Luna from GK because he will never, ever double anything, so all of his damage is focused on the first and only hit. Not to mention his starting strength isn't exactly outstanding (Benny also enjoys Quixotic from Basara, which he can reclass into because of Hayato, if you're playing Revelations, Quixotic lets Benny activate Pavise and Luna all the time), although Benny should always end in General, no doubt. Also, Effie is fun to reclass (I made mine a swordmaster) because she's just good at everything, although her defense is actually not that great because she has a defense modifier of -1, even though her growth is good, meaning General is the only class where her defense is as good as it can be.

Charlotte's skill growth is actually pretty good at 50%. Her stats that aren't defense, resistance, and magic, are all at least 50%. Her luck backs her up so she doesn't get critted often, if you forge a bronze axe, she can work with that for a little bit and it gives her some dodge, and once she has gotten enough experience, she can transfer to stronger, less accurate weapons without a problem. I've actually never had my Charlotte get critted, she has a massive HP cushion, and after about one or two EXPonential Growth visits (honestly, that isn't even necessary, just pair her with someone who gives a big strength boost like Keaton), she becomes one of your best units, or at least pair-up fodder because of the huge strength boost she gives out. Charlotte's crit ratio capability and damage output are unparalleled in Fates, doing more damage than Beruka and Arthur, who have an edge over her in skill, and the only unit in the game that hits as hard as she does is Effie, who is an unfair comparison because Effie could arguably solo the game with very little support because her growths are insane.

Yeah, but the reason the group with more people should be winning is because more people support that team. The winning team shouldn't win if there isn't actually more support, and massive boosts to a team because they were losing horribly isn't fair to the other team. It isn't right that the teams are giving different levels of support, but the team that deserves the win doesn't get it because of an outrageous boost to the team that can't give as much support. I understand giving power to the character that has less of a fanbase, but the multiplier got out of hand really quick. We shouldn't be screwing over a team that deserves to win because it would be "predictable."

I'm not saying eliminate the multiplier. But the multiplier shouldn't be able to get that high. She should have lost, but the multiplier got so high because the Gauntlet pitied her so much that she got a boost of what, 7.3?

Did you see her multiplier? People were seriously angry. The multiplier should be for close matches, like Summer Leo and Summer Gaius, that was close. Camilla's wasn't close until all of a sudden her score started exploding because she was losing so bad.

Definitely. But really, there shouldn't be a booster for less popular characters. They lose because they aren't as popular. I'm okay with a booster, but Camilla's win showed people that the multiplier has gotten out of hand. Yeah, I understand why people don't like her. I like her because her design is adorable, her voice is adorable, and she has a weird stat spread that I think is fun to use in comparison to the other tanky cavaliers, Xander and Silas.

No, I don't take it seriously XD

Yeah. To be fair, Charlotte is supposed to be a serious gold digger, and wants to show as much of her junk as she can :\ Camilla shouldn't have any interest in throwing herself at people, but alas... the panties. She shouldn't be bashed for the gauntlet. IS should be bashed because of the lack of a limit on the multiplier. Camilla shouldn't have earned the win. Because she didn't earn it :\ But Camilla doesn't deserve bashing.

I'd like to hear your justification. As an archer lover.

But all of that makes sense. And I don't think the writers would just toss in a fun story about children murdering each other. I'm not saying Leo heard the exact truth, but really, it would never be any more than just gossip, because that sort of thing is covered up. And this is an excerpt from Camilla's support with Niles: Camilla: Oh. Didn't you know? Xander is the only one of my siblings born to the queen. The rest of us--Leo, Elise, and I--we're all children of King Garon's mistresses. Different mistresses, I might add. He loved to pit our mothers against each other. Niles: I had no idea. Camilla: Our mothers were the lowest of the low, trying to claw their way to a better status. Naturally, they used us as bait in all of their conflicts. Niles: Lady Camilla, I'm- Camilla: You said I was pathetic, and you were right! My mother loved me, but only as a pawn. Do I dote on Avatar? Yes, I do! I remember what it feels like to be alone! Honestly, it wouldn't make sense if this wasn't the case. Garon is a king that Leo said had a thing for women. So why would there only be four kids? And Camilla is so comfortable with killing, it would be completely logical if it was because she had done it for many years. It would tell you why they had to be so much stronger, they were in fear of being killed and had to learn how to defend themselves, because both Camilla and Leo you get promoted even though they are younger siblings, unlike the Hoshidan siblings, of which only one is promoted, who is the eldest. Additionally, Camilla says in the excerpt that Garon had all of those women at the same time, "pitting them against each other", which implies that he had probably had sex with each of them a few times and produced children, and that the children were forced against each other as bait. If that wasn't the case, then Garon just neatly had one kid with each concubine, which considering again his penchant for women, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Xander also wouldn't have talked about this because as the first heir and the child of the actual queen, he most likely didn't have to worry about it, the concubines wouldn't have dared go after the true heir to the throne. Yes, the Fates timeline is a hot mess. I am not complimenting the game by making sense of a past conflict. I am saying that an intelligent writer would never put that sort of information in dialogue without it either holding some truth or being a trick of some sort, but Fates doesn't acknowledge the idea of concubine children killing each other or acknowledge that it is a falsehood, meaning what you find is most likely true, because the information is there and it is not contradicted. There is no confirmation, but the player should be able to figure something like that out without the game directly telling them that Camilla has children's blood on her hands.

I don't find Camilla one-note at all. They should have fleshed out her character more, most definitely, but honestly, she was the only royal I really liked, the others were annoying (Takumi, Leo, Elise), jerks (Xander, Ryoma, Takumi, Leo), or just boring (Hinoka, Sakura). She wasn't a total jerk, she wasn't a hypocrite, she was designed costume-wise to be waifu material (gross), but honestly, there is a sort of explanation for her doting behavior. Basically, she most likely was the only sibling that had to kill other siblings to secure her place for the throne, because she was at the right age when that all went down. In Leo and Elise's translated supports (not treehouse), Leo says that all the women who had children with Garon wanted their kids to climb the ladder to the throne by killing other kids. This explains why Camilla has no quarrel with killing. It also explains why she doesn't look like the other Nohrian siblings (they had different mothers) and why she is so loving towards the siblings that are still alive: she didn't want to kill her half-siblings. She wants to have been able to have relationships with those kids, but her horrible mother (whom Camilla confirmed was a slut and a horrible person) forced her to kill those kids before they killed her, so Camilla cherishes the relationships she can have because she wants those relationships to replace those she didn't get to have. That alone tells you why she is not only loving toward her siblings, but toward everyone who is kind to her, and even toward some that are cold, but not enemies (like Beruka). It's a shame they cut this valuable info out in the English release, but it's all there in the original script, and there are hints in Niles' supports with her even in the English release.

The hair gets me every time. I don't want to sound like I'm one of those waifu-creeps though. I'm not. I just know that Peri seems to be a universally hated character, but I really like her, and her lines are so great. She's mentally unstable and it's really funny. Her crying portrait is one of my favorite things in FE, along with Charlotte's rape face.

Unpopular Opinion: I like Peri. A lot. And I am not able to defend myself for it. She's just psycho, adorable, and I married her my first Conquest playthrough and then married Peri!Selkie my second playthrough because I needed Peri's genetics in my child o_o I have a problem.

Yeah, but when I got to the point where I had to make room for newer units, and I had two archers, I had to pick one, and Dorothy was just better by that point. But he holds a special place in my heart. For being one of the few Binding characters I really like.

Wait... Rebecca is bad? Oh, I thought obliterating everything in sight before endgame with a killer bow including the FE7 endgame Nomad Trooper at Nergal's battle was good... my bad.

This... is my thread. This is my dream thread. Here I go, units that I use that either start terrible or are terrible: Every recruit, Est archetype, and villager: I don't freaking care about efficiency, every unit with high growth rates, I'm using them! Donnel, Mozu, Ross, Amelia, Ewan, Nino, Sophia, Fiona, all of them 0_0 They are gods on earth if you raise them up, so why not? Especially in SS, where everything is already really easy, it makes the game almost funny how broken some of their units can be. Meg: She's just so cute. I can't not use her. I can't do it. I have sworn to myself that once I play Radiant Dawn, I will use Meg. It's going to happen. Dorothy: There's something endearing about her being so plain when everyone else is so "anime protagonist." Dorothy is better than Wolt, but that isn't saying much, and you get Wolt first, so there isn't much justification for using her instead, except that she's got such a homely and fairly cute design. Wolt (attempted): I tried. I really did. When I realized he was related to Rebecca, I was determined to use him... but he was just so awful. Just terrible, every time he leveled up, it's like the RNG devil was laughing at me. But I really liked him for some reason, even though if it wasn't for this odd interest, I wouldn't like him at all? Charlotte: Charlotte is insanely good once you train her, but her bases are so frustrating, she misses constantly and she doesn't double nearly as often, her base stats make it look like Arthur is better than her when he is entirely inferior. But I didn't know anything about her except I liked her design when I saw her in Conquest, and then her dialogue with Benny made me go, "must use Charlotte." Benny: In Conquest, Effie is similar to Ike in that you could probably win that whole game with her and some minimal support. So there isn't a reason to use Benny instead. Except he's so sweet, and I could never abandon my cinnamon roll titan. He's just too nice to be thrown away. Thany: I love pegasus knights, and in Binding Blade, my options are hot trash, hot trash, and hot trash -_- So I always put work into my first pegasus knight, because I will not have a game where I can't use a pegasus, even if she uses up tons of steroids. War in FE never lacks a pegasus. Blasphemy. Niles: GOOD LORD. This was the most challenging thing. I thought there was no way to redeem him. It's like IS tried to deliberately create an amazing character and make them totally useless. His strength, his magic, they're horrible, his skill is mediocre, his defense and HP are horrendous, he may be one of the most awful non-Jagens ever to exist, and yet... I did it. I found out he could support with Arthur, and then the choir of angels sounded above me. As a Berserker, Niles was able to grow in strength, HP, and skill, and when I dropped him in Hero, he could actually survive. And perform... well The "inferior girls": Just in general, when there's a male character and then a female in the same class that is considered their counterpart, I use the female. Wendy over Bors, Sophia over Raigh, Ilyana over Soren, Marisa over Joshua, Setsuna over Takumi, even Fir over Rutger. It's not like I'm picking them basing off of gender, it's just for some reason, IS picks the girls to have the lower strength or magic/HP and more resistance/luck (woah, resistance and luck), and I like using weak units, so yeah :\ There are some exceptions, like I use Lugh over Lilina, but mostly, I keep the girls. Other honorable mentions: Setsuna, Hayato, Subaki, Neimi

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I absolutely and totally agree with you. That's one of the reasons I don't like Celica. The gentle maiden thing is so tired.

The headshape near the bottom. Where her head would meet the bottom of her right ear, it looks too high.

But really, I was only on here to post my unpopular opinion of disliking Celica, not to get into this whole debate. My opinion is unpopular, that was the purpose of this thread :|

They honestly shouldn't have been. "Potential to be a great leader" and "inspirational speeches" should not be the only quality you look for in a leader, try experience. Except Conrad is more trained than Celica and she has poor defenses. But I don't want to get technical about that. ...Fair enough :\ But really, it would start with Celica getting killed. Only Saber was in a position to immediately get in Conrad's way. But Clive didn't end up handling everything else. He was planning to, but Alm proved to be a popular leader, even if Clive had more experience. And experience isn't just training, it's actually being in real battles . So no, Alm doesn't have experience. Sigurd may be the only one that does, but Alm was picked to come because he was related to Mycen, not because he could fight well, though he was more ready than past lords have been (Eirika, I'm looking at you)

You're right, I shouldn't have said hostage. I should've said she's the only hope for the country and she isn't thinking enough about what would happen if she died. She's serving her purpose, yes, but I just find it a bit reckless. Mae and Boey said in their supports that they had never actually used their magic to fight/kill people, Mae even sounded like they. They were scared and they were inexperienced. They're trained to protect her, yes, but she was lucky they were willing to "pull the trigger", per say, and they don't have any actual combat experience. Saber couldn't fight Conrad. In the FE games, especially in the beginning, the promoted units are almost always considered stronger than those who aren't, even when they are eventually overshadowed. Conrad could totally kill Saber, especially because of the weapon disadvantage Saber has naturally. Honestly, I didn't want to get into an argument about why Lords go into battle. I just don't like Celica as a character. I don't agree with the decisions she makes, I don't like her dialogue, and when I said that she just should not go, I admit I was wrong, I just find it hard to believe that no one else wants to check out what's going on with Mila. It's my unpopular opinion, but I generally find Celica annoying, and I don't like her. So when she goes off with zero guards that have combat experience and a sort-of idea that she can fix whatever is going on, it just bothers me. That's also why Alm bothers me, especially because Clive just gives Alm control of The Deliverance because he's related to Mycen and he is relatable to the commoners, even though Alm doesn't have much experience either. Marth has Jagen, Eirika has Seth, Eliwood and Roy have Marcus, and Celica has...Saber. Whom she knows almost nothing about. Alm has Clive and Lukas, much more guidance than a shady merc that Celica just picked up from a bar. I just can't find myself justifying her decisions. I don't like her :\

But an absolute zero in anything is nonsense. To say there isn't a commoner that knows how to train horses for war, or to say maybe on the continent somewhere there's a soldier that no longer serves the kingdom and trained a horse, or that the son of a royal knight was taught to raise horses for battle, possibly a noble with no ties to the government, something, anything. I just don't think there is no one in those countries that knows how to breed and raise horses for combat.