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Also note that Elie did in fact have a personal life issue that required him to deal with it, which is why he wasn't around much this phase.

Wait, hang on. "D1 ends monday 10AM on GMT+1(or 72 hours from this post on)" This just changed. Does this mean we still have 24+ hours?

Votals: Levity: Helios BBM: Rapier, Helios, Bizz, Aere Camtech: Shinori, BBM Iris: Paperblade Aere: Straw (I think these are right?) Straw: Please note that BBM has claimed rolecop

Ugh, ok. I was in the middle of doing votals, and then lost it due to accidentally refreshing the page, but it looks like right now BBM has four votes on him. Which means unless we get five people in here we can't no lynch. Which means if we want to avoid lynching the claimed rolecop, we'll need to find someone else to lynch. Ideas? Also, I'm claiming to be talking with eclipse, and the message she wanted me to pass on was that she thought most likely Rapier and BBM was a town argument that was going to allow scum to slip by. Which could continue to happen. Thus, keep that in mind when figuring this out.

Kaoz: the extension request applies to you as well I guess since you are a mod too. Sorry for forgetting you the first time ;_;

I'm asking for an extension for a couple reasons. A) we've barely had any actual useful discussion as town, B) there are plenty of people who need to input more, and C) it's 3:30 in the morning and I don't feel like trying to deal with this right now because I shouldn't be awake right now.

Well then. Uh... ok. So, I'm around. Personally, I was about to say screw it and ask for an extension. Which I'm going to do anyways, because no one is here and not enough has been done. Excellen: Can we pretty please have an extension? Beyond that, does anyone have votals? If we can't have an extension, who would be your preferred target?

Ugh do we seriously only have four hours left? Ok then, couple of options here. We can ask for an extension, or we can buckle down and try to figure some stuff out. Personally, I think that there are enough people that just haven't said a lot that we can justify asking for an extension, but on the other hand we have had 72 hours, it's not the mods fault we've wasted a lot of that. So. Thoughts? Also, Cam. There's been enough said that you should be able to make some opinions on people besides the two people who've been making themselves the easiest people to talk about.

I did start one with Elie yesterday around 3 PM EST, and am currently in one that started at 8:47. I initiated both of them.

##unvote Hi Aere. Thanks for joining us~

Right, so my vote on Aere will probably not be my final vote. I'm not putting a vote on one of my three scummier vibes right now because I want to see more discussion from people before I solidify those decisions. My scum feel on Paper... I dunno, but something about his posts just rub me in the wrong way. Something just feels not quite right. Apparently this is how he plays as town because he's being active and not uninterested, but I dunno. It just feels... off somehow. That's why he's a maybe because it's just a purely instinctual feel as opposed to feel+specific post stuff.

Cam: Maybe try talking about what you feel about other people besides Rapier and BBM?

I dunno, I just have a slight scum read on him. It happens. Sometimes I get reads on people and don't quite know why. Maybe because he's been talking more than a lot of people I have more data points on him or something. It's not that he's special, it's just there's more stuff to get info from.

Paper: Note that I have both Rapier and BBM under my scum read. I currently have a less read on Rapier because from my experience he just tends to appear scummier even if he is town. And Rapier is giving some opinions. They might not be the best opinions, but they are something.

Alright, well then. First couple of pages is RVS stuff, not much of use in that, then discussion about a possible SK. I suppose it's possible there's one of those, but it's also possible extra kills are coming from a vig, or PGO, or some other source, so I agree with general consensus that there's not much use talking about that until we get more info. Then people seem to start jumping on Shinori. At that point, I didn't find him very scummy. I thought he was pushing on people to get reactions and trying to promote discussion about one of the few things we had some minor amount of info on, however Bizz does have a good point about how Shinori really shouldn't use the "I always look scummy" argument. It really isn't a good excuse for acting scummy. If you're constantly getting thought of scummy for your play style, change something. It doesn't do any good for the town to be chasing its own tail because someone always looks scummy. Rapier then steps in and sorta defends Shinori, sorta talks against him. He claims that he doesn't see anything really wrong with Shinori, but then says that the talk about the SK was wasting time. When Paper then votes Shinori for that, Rapier gets in an argument with Paper about that. People then start voting Rapier, and Shinori apparently finds them town because of this. This is when I start to have issues with Shinori. He basically claims that these people are town for voting Rapier, when honestly, I haven't found Rapier especially scummy. I've found him flipfloppy, but that happens to everyone. My main issue with Shinori is that he's just assumed people are town, but not really backed up those feelings. If he had explained things better than one line, I think I'd be more ok with him then. BBM then comes under fire for wanting to wait until more people are around. Honestly, I kinda have to agree with people here. Just because people aren't around doesn't mean the ones who are around shouldn't talk. If you have thoughts, you should put them out there when you have them. Otherwise you might forget them and never post them. Plus, the more people post, the more we have to base scum hunting off later. Though I do agree that some people (including myself, I'll be honest) need to be posting more. Some more arguing, Shinori explains why he thought people were townish (thanks for that! ^_^ ) And then more arguing and then we reach now. Basically, currently what I have as far as reads are Townish: Elies, Eclipse, Bizz, maybe Shinori (after explaining himself and his comments, I'm more likely to go back to my earlier read) Scumish: BBM, maaaaaaybe Rapier, and maybe Paper Neutral or Null: everyone else SO! ##unvote ##Vote:Aere Exist please~

Straw: uhm... I was the one who you agreed with about Shinori... Thoughts in a bit, sorry more stuff came up. :/

Bizz: I'm actually about to go eat dinner, however when I get back I'll post some thoughts. Sorry about horrid timing.

Bizz: Ouch. :/ Thank you for the warning, I hope that we don't lose you N1. That would suck.

HI NIGHTMARE!

Ok guys, voting confusion explained. I'm voting for Psych, not the other way around. We just got flipped in the votals. However, ##unvote ##Vote:Shinori I actually thought that you were playing decently at the start, if a bit rough. However, now you've devolved into one liners that claim X is town without really explaining why that means X is town in your eyes. Could you explain why? Cause honestly it looks like active lurking to me while trying to be able to say "Look guys, I have reads, see my reads?"

Ok then, how do you propose we get past RVS? We could have the host come in here and yell at us about how stupid RVS is, we could talk some more about Elie's claim, though I think at this point I'll believe it, or we could talk about something else. Like carrier pigeons. Carrier pigeons are useful things. What do people think is the best way to use them? In the Homestuck game, I ended up not using mine as much as I probably could since I was new to mafia. After having played an OC game though, I can see how they might be very useful, especially as the game goes further on. What do other people think?

(There was no bus driver in schoolgirl, i faked claimed that as redirector)

Not deathbombmiller? That's too bad. ##Vote:Psych Because, well, psych.

Welp. Now I am dead. At least I don't need to try to continue to catch up anymore. Good luck to Tables in that respect. As for the rest of you.... Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa *falls over dead*

Oh. Right. a) I had assumed that the mafia killed the SK because the other scenario is that Nags killed himself and the maf kill was protected by the doc, and I don't see Nags killing himself. b) Tables: You claimed because people suspected Impy and pushed her to claim due to her barely being around, not a lot of good views, avoiding questions, and some other stuff I'm probably forgetting.