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Ok. I'm around. Sorry, I intended to vote last time, but ended up crashing and not being awake for deadline. However, since I didn't really have anything to go on at that point, I probably would have followed the crowd and voted for Blitz so... Anyways, from my reread, most people seem to think Elie is scum. I dunno, I didn't quite get that read, but I'm not 100% sold, so I'm not going to try and push that lynch. Proto seems fairly town so I'd be ok with that lynch. Obviously I'd be ok with my lynch, but that tells you guys nothing, so moving on from there. Core... is a slight town read? Feralize and Zenax are null reads, and I don't really know about Psych. On one hand he seems kinda scummy, but on the other hand it's Psych so I don't know. But, for now, ##Vote: Proto (L-2)

I LIIIIIIIVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi everyone.

Blargh fine, I will be a good little mafia person and sub. I am no longer jetlagged, and so can think more clearly about if I will be able to do this or not, so yeah. Sign me up.

Actually, never mind. I won't be around enough to care about this.

Man. I thought for once I'd make it past N1 when I was town. But nope. *goes and dies*

Bizz: :/ (I wasn't joking about the part where I said I love you~)

Oh. Right. Also, this is a thing. I will be not around Thursday or Saturday probably. My brother is getting married on Saturday, and Thursday I will be busy. I may be around some Thursday, but almost for certain not on Saturday. After that, I'm going to be visiting Scotland and England, so I'll only be able to get on once a day. I'll still be able to play, I just won't be around as much as before. Just giving you guys a heads up now.

Shinori: ... I was also joking? It'd be a stupid move for the mafia to kill me, really. I was one of the top two wagons yesterday. They'd be better off trying to mislynch me.

That's correct. I'm not a miller. So I suppose the vig could shoot me if they felt like it. I feel like that'd mean they didn't have a sense of humor though... (Also guys, if I end up dead tomorrow, Shinori's probably scum and killed me)

Also theoretical vig would be wasting a shot on our miller claim...

Shinori: ilu2

BBM: I have already dealt with whatever night action I may or may not have. So there. Clearly I'm not scum. :-p

[spoiler=elie math] Fine. I'll do this. I'll make this happen. Let's assume that "A member of the town" is A, "A member of the mafia" is B, and "A member of an unrelated party" is C. (sure fine, this works) If a member of the town is killed, it is by another member of town, member of the mafia, or a member of an unrelated party. If a member of the mafia is killed, it is by a member of the town, member of the mafia, or a member of an unrelated party, or some shenanigans due to roles, such as a redirector. If a member of an unrelated party is killed, it is by a member of the town, member of the mafia, or a member of an unrelated party. (This could work if there's more than one third party, one of whom is a SK. Under that assumption, ok. But really you should have stated that assumption.) Condensed: If A is killed, it is by A, B, or C. If B is killed, it is by A, C, or R If C is killed, it is by A, B, or C. Therefore, we can plainly see that A, B, and C are related by A, B, or C. We can also assume that since "is killed, it is by A, B, or C." is an independent constant, I'll call "= D". Oh hey look, here's some faulty math! You can't have a constant be = D. If we want to do this, we can have it equal D. Lets do that. So if we want to do this, let's do it this way. Death(A) = A + B + C Death(B) = A + C + R Death© = A + B + C D = A + B + C so then Death(A) = D Death(B) = D - B + R Death© = D So then. What this tells us is... a death of a town or a third party can be caused by all the same type of people. Death of a scum is likely due to either a third party, a vig, or some interference by one of those members, such as a redirector. So... it tells us exactly what our assumptions were. Thanks Elie. Some more things: We can therefore assume, with proper logic and deduction, that any member dying is a result of that member being killed. (Wow, dying is because you were killed? *gasp* So by simply existing, members will die, because they are being killed by any member. This member that performs the kill is then, related to all alliances by simultaneously being in all alliances at once on another member which is also part of all alliances at once. (This part makes... no sense.) Also, consistent constant. GG Elie.

Elie: Besides that horrendous math you used, we're killing each other because the mods told us to.

Bizz: If I was mafia I wouldn't kill you first. I also wouldn't post about it. So. No. I'm not mafia. I'm also not planning on framing Kay for your death. I also believe Kay is inno. Nightmare's vote on Rapier led to his lynch when people would have been just as happy lynching someone else. That would have been some major *major* bussing.

I love you Bizz, even if the mafia kills you to frame Kay~

Prims picked who was playing.

Mmmkay. That's why I asked.

Aere: Is it stuff you could talk about in thread or no? If it could at all possibly help the maf more than town, don't say anything, but if you think the gain outweighs the negative, consider posting it here?

Also everyone should get their theoretical night actions in so that phase can end sooner rather than later.

Well, any other thoughts besides Eclipse defending Rapier was weird?

It's Nightmare. Clearly it's pure skill.

I think you need to wait.

Aere: You weren't really around much D1. It's not surprising that people didn't message you. I know that personally I messaged people that I thought would be around.

Paper: Uhm... I've explained what I thought and I've given views when asked for them even though I don't have strong feels on people right now. I've done my best to convince people not to lynch me, and I've done it without needing to claim. I stick with my views that claiming early on is a stupid move because it only helps the mafia. And on that note, I really am off to bed. Have fun people.