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Derp.

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He is the best use of it though. So we can say he has claim to it.

stay civil plz.

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@Florina- Except that haar NEVER has to fight a thunder sage if you dont want to. The only "forced" thunder sage he has to face is the 2-E thunder sage that attacks before the boss. The one in 3-2 is away from his path (the mountains), the one in 3-3 is suuuuuper isolated and hes not going there, there are no thunder sage in 3-4 and since hes obviously tier 3 at this point, he has no trouble with the sages anyway. There are no thunder sages in 3-5, much less mages, near the boss. In 3-7, the thunder sages might as well no exist due to their locations and you can avoid them everytime. In 3-8, he doesnt have to face them if there any IIRC. Just have titania kill it. In 3-10, there are no thunder sages yet again, hell, there are no sages at all, only bishops. In 3-11, there is one where he drops ike, but considering he has enough lck by this point, probably enough res, he can take the hit and still tank everything else. In 4-P, there are no magic enemies except the bishop near the boss. In 4-3, he does have a sleep problem though.

Well, like cam said, every drafter will make sure to get a nosferatu user if its really that awesome. And if it is truly as important as you guys say to move faster, then why do you want it banned? I used to think the only way to do chapter 18 of FE12 in drafts was to have nosferatu MU be warped in to kill all the generals, then in a later draft I proved myself wrong and I did it with paladin spam instead.

Agreed with cam. Although i personally think 1 draft isnt enough data to determine if something is OP and needs to be banned.

Everyone jumped into the nullify bandwagon >_>. Ok, lets clear things up: Nullify sucks. Thunder mages dont OHKO haar unless they crit and a crit will still OHKO with nullify equipped. Second, Im not putting a skill on him because im worried of 1% of the enemy army getting lucky on him and critting. I would rather, you know, equip celerity and savior on him and not worry about non-existing thunder mages (seriously i can count thunder mages with my fingers and hes never forced to battle them due to move). Third: he never slows down. Even in endgame, hes going to be very useful due to high move and hammertime! on the 4-E-1 generals and he can still dent auras. And lol endgame is so easy anyway, what with all the royals that it really doesnt matter. And time for my vote :p. The good: Flight. High move. Amazing bases. Availability. Good weapon ranks. Nice growths. The bad: Wait, theres something bad? A flying tank that never slows down and ORKOs everything. On his speed "issue". Lets be honest, haar will always get the 2-3 wing and theres BEXP :p. 10/10

Yeah ellerean is bulkier but his offensive growths leave a LOT to desired. I drafted him in an H2 draft and wow, he was so bad. He never proc'd spd for one and i ended up benching him. Yumina, of all people, was outperforming him in combat :/. Also, durability kinda doesnt matter anyways, since bishops are meant for staff and excalibur spam not pure combat, that is the pallie's and draco's job. Oh, and i also had random crit...restart! issues with him. Especially from one particular ice dragon in C14 when i attempted the 4 turn rescue with him...i ended up promoting yumi to do it.

Except why use Sonic Sword Mia or Mist w/e when you have much superior choices. Like...FORGED HAND AXES AND JAVELINS. Basically, why go through all the trouble of gluing a Mage Band to Mia and giving her spirit dusts (LOL) just for a 7 move unit with shitty durability?

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Dat Rules (borrowed/stolen from Integrity) - Ratings are assumed to be on Hard 1 Mode. - Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly. +/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly. Also, if your vote is already a 10/10 or greater than 9 and you give a full point of bias, The score may not exceed 10! - Numerical votes out of 10, or something proportional to it. Make it easy to calculate for my sake. - Every ranking phase ends from 2100 to 2200 EST. Every ranking phase starts from 2200 EST to 2300 EST. Do the math if you are in another timezone! - I will insist you do not use the "Not X" reason on any character, where X is another unit. If you do, your vote will be thrown out. - "Recruits X" or "takes you to X chapter" arguments are explicitly banned. C'mon, people, this shouldn't need to be a rule. That's not gameplay performance. - Assume that the character in question is being recruited. - Similar to the "Recruits X" rule, do not use "He Comes with a Free Ridersbane" as an argument. - Rate the character based on his/her performance without the Rainbow Potion, Maturity Drop or Bond Drop - I withhold the privilege to tell you your rating is bogus and demand you revise it if it breaks any of the above. I will not throw out votes anonymously, you will be informed and given a chance to revise. Averages: Yubello: 1.52 Bantu: 1.61 Norne: 2.28 Rickard: 2.72 Samto: 2.90 Wrys: 3.00 Bord: 3.25 Matthis: 3.60 Radd: 3.64 Cord: 3.83 Jeorge: 4.10 Warren: 4.35 Caesar: 4.87 Roger: 5.20 Castor: 5.62 Merric: 6.25 Linde: 6.27 Gordin: 6.33 Navarre: 6.50 Arran: 6.62 Frey: 6.87 Cain: 6.91 Cecil: 7.21 Minerva: 7.50 Ryan: 7.71 Wendell: 7.83 Barst: 7.87 Julian: 7.95 Draug: 8.14 : 8.15Yumina: 8.20 Etzel: 8.33 Rody: 8.43 Luke: 8.56 Marth: 8.70 Ogma: 9.00 Sirius: 9.31 Malliesia: 9.50 Feena: 9.53 Catria: 9.73 Palla: 9.86 My Unit: 9.99 I find Ellerean to be incredibly mediocre. He has a better base tome rank than Merric but he suffers from poor growths and he cant insta-excalibur like Merric can. He also has the same shortcoming Merric has of having D staves in...chapter 10 when your staffbots are likely at C staves already, with some possibly in B...I give him a 4/10. Incredibly mediocre but still salvageable.

I have similar thoughts on Titania, she joins in earlygame and isnt required to beat the game either. She also doesnt have to seize or do other lordly duties and her death isnt even a game over. See how poor your reasoning for no free lucina is? I can easily name a lot of free characters that are not lords or are required to beat the game yet they are still free for the purpose of balancing the draft/evening the unit count. Also, i think its too early to start banning stuff like nosferatu just because some people who played the game think its broken. For all we know, nosferatu might just be overhyped and will die down as new/other strats are explored.

A bit better, ill take it.

Reyson is so bad! Letting marcia/jill full move again is terrible. Even if you made SS!mia move again he isnt worth shit when i could be deploying rhys instead! At least rhys can damage things!

I see at least 5 votes that will not be counted. Folgore green, quoting a vote that doesnt count makes your vote not count. Elieson didnt provide any reasoning whatsoever so its also in the trashcan. And gryz, you too.

His letdown being something that doesnt matter, since mages might as well not exist in the enemy army.

Dat Rules (borrowed/stolen from Integrity) - Ratings are assumed to be on Hard Mode (JP Maniac). And only hard mode! - Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly. +/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly. - Numerical votes out of 10, or something proportional to it. Make it easy to calculate for my sake. - Every ranking phase ends when the next RTU thread is posted (at this point, it's hard to tell). - I will insist you do not use the "Not X" reason on any character, where X is another unit. If you do, your vote will be thrown out. - "Recruits X" or "takes you to X chapter" or "Gives you Bronze Sword" arguments are explicitly banned. C'mon, people, this shouldn't need to be a rule. That's not gameplay performance. - Assume that the character in question is being recruited. - Similar to the "Recruits X" rule, do not use "she brings a Savior to the team" as an argument. - BEXP is free to be used in any quantity on any character. - Skills can be reassigned freely. - No transfers. - Anyone that has done a RD RTU withholds the privilege to tell you your rating is bogus and demand you revise it if it breaks any of the above. I will not throw out votes anonymously, you will be informed and given a chance to revise. Averages: Fiona: 1.20 Meg: 1.34 Vika: 2.40 Leonardo: 2.53 Tormod: 3.28 Ilyana: 3.75 Nealuchi: 4.41 Tauroneo: 4.50 Black Knight: 4.60 Maurim: 4.72 Aran: 4.92 Laura: 5.13 Edward: 6.31 Micaiah: 6.50 Marcia: 7.31 Zihark: 7.44 Elincia: 8.21 Leanne: 8.38 Rafiel: 8.45 Jill: 8.46 Volug: 8.87 Sothe: 8.93 Nailah: 9.00 Nolan: 9.06

I just realized i have an addition error ever since i redid ch 14. Im only 1 turn behind horita, not 2. Curse you anyway, Horita!

Except he has bad staff rank in chapter 11...The best he could hope for is barely starting D rank as instant promoted bishop and he will take quite a while to get to C, and will take a lot of effort to get B.

Mia is really good. I once made her a frontliner and she died. So good, man! Totally better than invinci-tits. Oh and dat rhys. He totally deserves top of top tier. I mean, he doesnt need stats to heal! And is invincible because he always stays behind the amazing mia and never gets attacked!

The good: -Warps at base or in other words, nice staff rank. The bad: - Pretty much everything else, bad bases, bad growths, meh availability, etc. 5/10 because another warper is cool

The good: -Excalibur at any level. -Nice growths. -Prologue utility. -comes back just barely early enough to be salvageable/useful. The bad: -Underleveled when rejoining. -Bad tome rank and staff rank. I give him a 6/10

Cant you give him the ring and draco? Or you didnt save them? He might be unsalvageable at this point with those stats :/