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Oops, I copy pasted the previous Turn 6 because lazy and forgot to edit that out!

[spoiler=Teams] Refa's Team vs Elieson's Team Turn 6 Ike recovers with Renewal! (48/52) vs Elieson's Elincia (Runesword) attacks Refa's Makalov (Silver Sword)! Elincia's Nihil activates! 28 dmg 100% Hit 0% Crit Makalov receives 28 damage! (30/51) Elincia's Runesword recovers 28 of her HP! (52/52) Makalov counterattacks! 24 dmg 62% Hit 0% Crit (37 86 51) Elincia receives 24 damage! (28/52) Refa Ike 52/52 Makalov 23/51 Lethe 29/70 [8/20] Jill 0/48 Giffca 68/68 [11/20] Elieson Elincia 28/52 Ike 48/52 Geoffrey 56/56 Kieran 0/50 Giffca 68/68 [11/20] Refa's turn!

IGNORE ME

Well, he had 19/20...If youre using Laguz, I think you should be aware of their gauge :/

[spoiler=Teams] Refa's Team vs Elieson's Team Turn 5 vs Refa's Lethe (Claw) attacks Elieson's Elincia (Runesword)! Both units activate Nihil! 19x2 dmg 93% Hit 0% Crit (1 37 47) Elincia receives 19 damage! (33/52) Elincia counterattacks! 23 dmg 63% Hit 0% Crit (29 5 18) Lethe receives 23 damage! (29/70) Elincia's Runesword recovers 23 of her HP! (52/52) Lethe doubles! (47 18 93) Elincia receives 19 damage! (33/52) Refa Ike 52/52 Makalov 51/51 Lethe 29/70 [8/20] Jill 0/48 Giffca 68/68 [11/20] Elieson Elincia 33/52 Ike 43/52 Geoffrey 56/56 Kieran 0/50 Giffca 68/68 [14/20] Elieson's turn!

[spoiler=Teams] Vennobennu's Team vs Athena's Team Turn 6 Nasir transforms! vs Athena's Giffca (Claw) attacks Vennobennu's Ike (Silver Sword)! Ike's Nihil activates! 26 dmg 100% Hit 0% Crit Ike receives 26 damage! (26/52) Ike's Resolve activates! Ike counterattacks! 27x2 dmg 100% Hit 0% Crit Giffca receives 54 damage! (14/68) Vennobennu Rolf 0/52 Oscar 56/56 Kieran 50/50 Makalov 58/58 Ike 26/52 Athena Brom 35/55 Nephenee 11/58 Wakes up Turn 8 Ike 59/59 Nasir 42/60 [20/20] Giffca 14/68 [10/20] Vennobennu's turn!

[spoiler=Teams] Refa's Team vs Elieson's Team Turn 4 Ike recovers with Renewal! 43/52 HP vs Elieson's Ike (Vague Katti) attacks Refa's Jill (Silver Axe)! Ike's Parity activates! 13 dmg 95% Hit 34% Crit (12 94 76) Jill receives 13 damage! (0/48) Jill falls for real this time! Refa Ike 52/52 Makalov 51/51 Lethe 52/70 [12/20] Jill 0/48 Giffca 68/68 [14/20] Elieson Elincia 52/52 Ike 43/52 Geoffrey 56/56 Kieran 0/50 Giffca 68/68 [14/20] Refa's turn!

[spoiler=Teams] Vennobennu's Team vs Athena's Team Turn 5 vs Vennobennu's Kieran (Silver Lance) attacks Athena's Nephenee (Wishblade)! 19 dmg 100% Hit 0% Crit 26% Adept (34) Nephenee receives 19 damage! (11/58) Vennobennu Rolf 0/52 Oscar 56/56 Kieran 50/50 Makalov 58/58 Ike 52/52 Athena Brom 35/55 Nephenee 11/58 Wakes up Turn 8 Ike 59/59 Nasir 42/60 (19/20) Giffca 68/68 [14/20] Athena's turn!

It's in general of whats changed in Lunatic. Forgot that mage was already there in Maniac. The rest of Chapter 6 is different though.

Couldve sworn Kieran had 24 def normally. Thats what happens when I dont look, its fixed now.

[spoiler=Teams] Vennobennu's Team vs Athena's Team Turn 4 vs Athena's Brom (Vague Katti) attacks Vennobennu's Rolf (Brave Bow)! Brom's Nihil activates! 23 dmg 75% Hit 28% Crit (26 12 11) Rolf receives 69 damage! (0/52) Rolf falls! Vennobennu Rolf 0/52 Oscar 56/56 Kieran 50/50 Makalov 58/58 Ike 52/52 Athena Brom 35/55 Nephenee 30/58 Wakes up Turn 8 Ike 59/59 Nasir 42/60 (19/20) Giffca 68/68 [14/20] Vennobennu's turn!

[spoiler=Teams] Refa's Team vs Elieson's Team Turn 3 vs Refa's Jill (Silver Axe) attacks Elieson's Kieran (Silver Axe)! Kieran's Vantage activates! Kieran's Resolve activates! 35 dmg 100% Hit 5% Crit (94) Jill receives 35 damage! (13/48) Jill counterattacks! 22 dmg 76% Hit 0% Crit 26% Guard (97 29 34) Kieran receives 22 damage! (0/50) (70) Kieran doubles! (3) Jill receives 105 more damage! (0/48) Jill is deaded! Kieran is dead actually Refa Ike 52/52 Makalov 51/51 Lethe 52/70 [12/20] Jill 13/48 Giffca 68/68 [14/20] Elieson Elincia 52/52 Ike 38/52 Geoffrey 56/56 Kieran 0/50 Giffca 68/68 [17/20] Elieson's turn!

Maniac enemies have Silver in Chapter 1 like Lunatic. Hard doesnt. Forges exist since Chapter 15 in Maniac. In Lunatic the forges start a lot earlier but weaker, the enemy 1-2 range is usually Tellius-like early on. Forges are a lot more common and powerful later and starting Chapter 15, they are very common/exclusive. Chapter 5 Sniper AI now moves if youre in their red range. A dracoknight has been added in the mountains near Hammerne to box you in with the Snipers. Chapter 6 has 1 more mage in the Treasure Room in Maniac/Lunatic. There are 2 promoted enemies added in the doors to the throne and the enemies near Lang have Ridersbane forges and stuff. Chapter 8 has more Generals. Chapter 9 has a few more DKs. Chapter 11 has an AI change in the enemies near the boss area. They added more Swordmasters and some other stuff. Dragons have 1-2. Maniac and Lunatic have that Fire Dragon near the starting forts to the right. Chapter 14 Dark Mages near the start can't be attacked by 1-2 right away in Player Phase anymore since theyre moved slightly out of range in Lunatic. The 3 Ice Dragons directly up of the start are also moved 1 tile closer to make a trap with the Dark Mages. Maniac and Lunatic have 3 more enemies than usual in the Throne area. Chapter 15 has effective forges in Maniac and Lunatic on the pallies/horsemen near the start. Chapter 16 has more enemies near the Throne. The Geosphere Thief and the pure water thief are moved out of range of every unit (the pure water one is barely reachable by 10 move +1-2 range) Chapter 17 has more Dracoknights. Chapter 18 has Dracoknights near the Throne area. Chapter 19 has Dracoknight reinforcements. Chapter 20 has Hero reinforcements. Chapter 20x has more enemies and placed very conveniently to block your path.

[spoiler=Teams] Vennobennu's Team vs Athena's Team Turn 3 vs Vennobennu's Rolf (Brave Bow) attacks Athena's Nephenee (Wishblade)! Nephenee's Vantage activates! 23 dmg 88% Hit 0% Crit (67 24 75) Rolf receives 23 damage! (29/52) Rolf counterattacks! 7x2 dmg 100% Hit 18% Crit 14% Deadeye (19 16 90 61) Nephenee receives 7 damage! (51/58) (90 75 4 11) Nephenee receives 21 damage and is fast asleep for 5 turns! (30/58) Vennobennu Rolf 29/52 Oscar 56/56 Kieran 50/50 Makalov 58/58 Ike 52/52 Athena Brom 35/55 Nephenee 30/58 Wakes up Turn 8 Ike 59/59 Nasir 42/60 (15/20) Giffca 68/68 [17/20] Athena's turn!

[spoiler=Teams] Refa's Team vs Elieson's Team Turn 2 vs Elieson's Ike (Silver Sword) attacks Refa's Lethe (Claw)! Lethe's Nihil activates! 18 dmg 74% Hit 0 Crit (35 27 94) Lethe receives 18 damage! (52/70) Lethe counterattacks! 7x2 dmg 100% Hit 0% Crit Ike receives 14 damage! (38/52) Refa Ike 52/52 Makalov 51/51 Lethe 52/70 [15/20] Jill 48/48 Giffca 68/68 [17/20] Elieson Elincia 52/52 Ike 38/52 Geoffrey 56/56 Kieran 22/50 Giffca 68/68 [17/20] Refa's turn!

[spoiler=Teams] Refa's Team vs Elieson's Team Turn 1 vs Refa's Lethe (Claw) attacks Elieson's Kieran (Silver Axe)! Lethe's Nihil activates! 14 dmg 100% Hit 0% Crit Kieran receives 14 damage! (36/50) Kieran counterattacks! 21 dmg 42% Hit 0% Crit (32 61 19) Kieran misses! Lethe doubles! Kieran receives 14 damage! (22/50) Refa Ike 52/52 Makalov 51/51 Lethe 78/78 [16/20] Jill 48/48 Giffca 68/68 [17/20] Elieson Elincia 52/52 Ike 52/52 Geoffrey 56/56 Kieran 22/50 Giffca 68/68 [20/20] Elieson's turn! I'm dying of laughter right now. This is hilariously broken xD

Refa's Team vs Elieson's Team Stats: Unit HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res acc avo crt sk% Refa Ike 52 26 11 27 28 20 24 18 74 76 13 27 Makalov 51 26 8 22 27 15 25 11 59 69 11 22 Lethe 70 25 9 27 33 28 21 15 0 94 0 - Lethe 70 31 9 31 36 28 26 18 90 100 15 - 39 180 Lethe 70 28 9 29 35 28 24 17 86 98 14 - 36 176 Jill 48 26 10 26 25 14 24 12 66 64 13 13 Giffca 68 32 10 28 25 22 25 16 0 72 0 - Giffca 68 40 10 32 29 22 30 19 86 80 16 - 50 181 Elieson Elincia 52 20 25 26 28 31 20 22 83 87 13 13 Ike 52 26 15 27 28 20 24 20 74 76 13 27 Geoffrey 56 23 11 26 27 14 25 15 66 68 13 26 Kieran 50 26 7 26 27 15 23 12 67 69 13 26 Giffca 68 32 10 28 25 22 25 16 0 72 0 - Giffca 68 40 10 32 29 22 30 19 86 80 16 - 50 181 (12) Refa gets to act first! Refa's Lethe and Giffca transform! Refa's Ike activates Shade! Refa's Makalov activates Provoke! Elieson's Giffca transforms! Elieson Ike activates Provoke!

I hear PKL is a host.

[spoiler=Teams] Vennobennu's Team vs Athena's Team Turn 2 vs Athena's Brom (Vague Katti) attacks Vennobennu's Kieran (Silver Axe)! Brom's Nihil activates! 18 dmg 70% Hit 33% Crit (52 93 41) Brom misses! Kieran counterattacks! 10x2 dmg 100% Hit 3% Crit (62) Brom receives 10 damage! (45/55) (67) Brom receives 10 damage! (35/55) Vennobennu Rolf 52/52 Oscar 56/56 Kieran 50/50 Makalov 58/58 Ike 52/52 Athena Brom 35/55 Nephenee 58/58 Ike 59/59 Nasir 42/60 (15/20) Giffca 68/68 [17/20] Vennobennu's turn!

[spoiler=Teams] Vennobennu's Team vs Athena's Team Turn 1 vs Vennobennu's Ike (Silver Sword) attacks Athena's Nasir! Ike's Nihil activates! 18 dmg 100% Hit 0% Crit Nasir receives 18 damage! (42/60) Vennobennu Rolf 52/52 Oscar 56/56 Kieran 50/50 Makalov 58/58 Ike 52/52 Athena Brom 55/55 Nephenee 58/58 Ike 59/59 Nasir 42/60 (11/20) Giffca 68/68 [20/20] Athena's turn!

Is that still your move Venno?

His utility is still there, but his combat won't be as good, basically.

No, actually in HM without his wings, he's definetely nowhere near as good. Still has flight, but he cant really double. The difference is huge. 3-2 has a bunch of enemies that no-Wings-Haar can't double. 3-3 AS ranges from 17-20. With 17 being rare and belonging to mages. Can't double. And from here it all gets worse unless: * he has been given a Wing and a promotion for 24 AS. * he's somehow gotten 2 spd levels with decreased HM exp, low BEXP and a 30% spd growth. A unit like Haar thrives on being able to choose where and when to ORKO multiple units in an Enemy Phase with Axes, good durability and good strength. Take the wing away, and hes just going to be surrounded by enemies and not actually kill them, making him that much worse. He also sometimes can have trouble reaching Spd thresholds for 3-5 (27 spd) and 4-P (28 spd).

ITT: Haar doesnt need Speedwings.

Seriously though, this image of the day week has been getting annoying.