Crysta
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The reinstatement of the FCC fairness doctrine is probably the most they can do tbh.
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Then it sounds like it's gonna be a pretty symbolic measure tbh. We'll see, I guess.
I think expulsion requires the votes of 2/3 of the body. The process is detailed here.
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Huh. Why didn't we do that earlier? Was adding that considered just too harsh?
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23 minutes ago, Sunwoo said:
Can Senators and Representatives be impeached or otherwise removed from office without them resigning? Just wondering.
There's been talk of expulsion but, like with invoking the 25th amendment and impeachment, it's not likely to work.
But we should do it anyway. Everything is symbolic from here on.
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rip Donald Trump's twitter account
27 minutes ago, Dr. Tarrasque said:The media created and exacerbated it. Behavior like what happened contributes to it in a way.
Sure. My behavior here doesn't contribute to any of it, though, so I'm not seeing the point you're trying to make.
EDIT: More background:
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Conservatives: lets whine about consequences forever
EDIT: also don't bring your relatives into arguments if you're gonna get upset at people criticizing them
BONUS:
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The arguments I'm not really interested in seriously entertaining are:
1) This would happen if the shoe was on the other foot. We've had multiple presidential elections -- IN RECENT MEMORY -- wherein our candidate won the popular vote but lost the electoral vote and nothing remotely close to this happened. Hillary wasn't routinely ginning up her base about how the Republican party stole the election and we should go "take back" the country. It's absurd.
2) These are some fringe edgelords and not nearly 30% of the Republican-voting electorate. That they're akin to shady loner terrorists in caves and not much more likely to be the middle-aged landscaper down your street who fell down the Fox News/OANN/Newsmax rabbit hole.
If they're made I will rebuke them in the most succinct and low effort way I can manage.
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Shutting down the moment your argument/beliefs are challenged really isn't a unique thing.
When someone does that I am completely okay with just letting them retreat and leaving them be if they don't want any part in the conversation any more. Unfortunately that is rarely the case: they usually persist.
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22 minutes ago, Dr. Tarrasque said:
You and others are visibly upset about the false equivalency going on to which I'm also aware of and agree with you but the fact remains that if you wish someone wouldn't do that or you want to convince them otherwise, your approach was wrong. If you don't care, do as you will but don't expect things to change in that regard.
Don't worry, I temper my expectations of right wingers quite heavily. I was not disappointed or surprised.
22 minutes ago, Dr. Tarrasque said:I wasn't being literal and it's in reference to the instances where you reply with "I HATE IT HERE". I jokingly labeled that as a kicking and screaming because I get it and I understand how frustrating it is.
That really didn't sound like 'joking' but a genuine characterization, but okay.
22 minutes ago, Dr. Tarrasque said:Then do you acknowledge and accept that you hurt your cause?
Why are you assuming we have the same cause?
Furthermore, if it's your cause this is a very ineffective place to wage you campaign to inform the misguided but well-meaning right wingers and bring them to our column through grace, civility, and understanding. If you haven't noticed, most of us generally agree with each other, and it rarely gets that uncivil.
Of course, it's probably because most of the earlier conservative posters who'd proudly wade here have been banned. Apparently.
22 minutes ago, Dr. Tarrasque said:Then it should cease being a surprise to you when the aforementioned false equivalency comes up.
Are you blaming me for the false equivalency existing because I choose to ridicule it? Because that may hurt the people who genuinely believe it?
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Just now, Dr. Tarrasque said:
Yes and that's the problem. MOST people who end up defending Republicans on this thread aren't fully aware of what's going on and are often folks seeing the same rigged system that we do but they'll end up easily being turned into supporting Republicans because humans aren't exactly rational creatures, they're more likely to make decisions based on their feelings and in this particular case y'all come off as bullies dogpiling on one ignorant individual.
Everyone else was pretty civil and I was the only one being abrasive and I think I wrote up a total of like four sentences telling them they weren't going to get away with the 100% predictable "but BLM lit a Target on fire!" talking point.
Cry me a river. I know people aren't rational human beings, but being too mean to them on an internet forum is not going to make me feel guilty.
5 minutes ago, Dr. Tarrasque said:You can kick and scream all you want about how the Republican party gets off the hook so easily and how much the Democrats get sandbagged by the media and I agree with you on that but here's the sad reality: that is the world we live in and the right-wing has made a habit of picking up people who feel attacked by folks supportive of the left or Democrats. It sucks but you need to deal with it, adapt and change your approach if you ever wish to get people to see your side of things and that includes conceding when the left and the Democrats are doing something stupid otherwise you only make the shitty and false "both sides" narrative work that much easier to the apathetic and ignorant showing the slightest bit of interest in understanding US politics.
It wasn't kicking or screaming. If you're really interested in a reasonable conversation yourself, stop exaggerating.
I'm not interested in reeling every right winger to my side, nor am I interested if me criticizing them is perceived as me confirming I really am as mean as they think lefties are. A significant portion of them also believe I'm a crazed socialist bent on destroying America because I voted for radical liberal Joseph R. Biden and, going out on a limb here, I don't think any amount of handling them with kid gloves is gonna change that!
You and others can put in the work if you want to.
11 minutes ago, Dr. Tarrasque said:If you want to educate people on the reality of the 2 parties, you need to play around how easy it is for the right-wing to win them over to their side if the individual feels alienated/attacked by you.
No. The right-wingers don't get to determine how I argue, particularly if their viewpoints are toxic enough to manifest in actual harm and the most I'm going to give them is an uncomfortable internet argument.
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7 minutes ago, eclipse said:
The fact that those videos have more than a million views is sickening.
Unfortunately, he's a small fish in a big pond.
This guy has 1+ million subscribers
right wing civil war 2 cosplay is a thriving market
who could have thought it'd lead to something like this!?
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Just now, Tryhard said:
It does seem as though they are being amplified and in some cases even encouraged in a unprecedented way in recent times.
the internet was a mistake
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The violent leftwing movements of the 1970's were never given the platform the violent rightwing movement gets today. Rittenhouse has been made a rightwing hero. I really can't think of anything remotely comparable to them in our history, let alone now.
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1 minute ago, Dragoncat said:
That seems to be forumwide and no way to say one topic.
Well, yes, you might have to make that concession.
But they'll probably stop quoting you soon anyway, if you're leaving the topic.
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6 minutes ago, Dragoncat said:
I'm not following the topic, I keep getting quoted. Is there a way to stop quotes from a topic?
Notification settings under 'Options'
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I hope you're not telling us to stop posting versus you just unfollowing the topic lol
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1 minute ago, Dr. Tarrasque said:
You guys aren't exactly helping. I understand the frustration with seeing the "both sides" talk but when it looks like y'all are just ganging up on one person when they're trying to say remember the not every Republican is a piece of shit, you're doing more harm and giving evidence for the actually shitty Republicans to work with and get more people on their side.
You really don't have to defend the person who voluntarily compared BLM to yesterday's insurrectionists.
You really, really don't.
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1 minute ago, Dragoncat said:
I voted for Biden. But you have a good day, I am backing out.
i mean, that is really the bare minimum, but i guess you're a step better than the ones who wanted to stick by their principles and didn't vote at all
the republican party is an active threat to democracy. full stop. the majority of republicans in the house voted for overturning the results of numerous state elections.
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2 minutes ago, Dragoncat said:
What I was interested in is saying "we need to respect our democracy" and "the two party system is what's wrong with this country"
one of the best ways to achieve this aim is not being a trump supporter
edit: also getting rid of the fascist party and letting the somewhat sane republicans fill that void but we're not even getting past step 1 i imagine 🙂
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If you're more interested in defending the goodwill of Trump supporters than anything else after all this, that's probably a good idea.
I don't really care about your mom. Sorry.
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No they wouldn't.
No matter how much you want to imagine they would.
BLM fights against police brutality. They don't spearhead attempts to overturn a democratic election.
You don't get to equivocate this away.
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he also hasn't had
his bottleTwitter for 24 hours so he's not hopped on MAGAT ravings like he usually is -
well i'll be damned, he just rolled over
... of course he still has two weeks to get riled up again, but he's scared right now.
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I hate it here part 634587652476853687
They really do think they can successfully pivot from this.
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The pasta pass thing was obviously fake, btw.