Othin

Basically, yeah, although it really depends on the difficulty. What's more my point is that other characters are similarly buffed compared to those in other games, so he doesn't stand out enormously - nowhere near Sigurd-level, at least. He's definitely one of the best characters, but not the best; that title goes to Avatar under most circumstances.

Everything is relative.

Not really.

15 and 20, yes. Not certain about the others, but 25 and 30 do sound plausible.

Any relevant information is useful. Knowledge of flavor is evidence that helps to determine what roles are plausible. If someone claimed their character was named "Cellphone", the fact that there is no such Felt member would be perfectly good evidence to bring up to show that there's something wrong with their claim.

If you were a Jester, it's unlikely you'd have the ability to vote for yourself, at least from the games I've seen. And if you were a Jester likely to cause any problems for other players, however small, I'm guessing that would be especially true. So yeah I'll at least buy that you aren't Snowman. Still think that even if you're really Clover, it doesn't make sense for you to not stick with proving yourself by getting lynched, but whatever. ##unvote ##vote Kiryn

True, yet she's not advocating that idea. @Kiryn: You didn't say you have any restriction against voting for yourself, correct? If you're able to vote for yourself, please do so, at least briefly to demonstrate that you can. I only know as much about this as anyone who's read Homestuck. Not sure how many of us here have. As for my suddenness, I was thinking about the list of Felt members after pointing out the likelihood of fakeclaims and realized the possibility that Snowman might actually be in the game. Which would probably be bad.

Good point, we can't assume that. But if Psych is lying for some reason and Kiryn really is town, is that any more reason to lynch her? I don't think so. What I'm saying is, I don't think we can assume she's mafia. She may very well be a Jester, which is no worse than a wasted lynch if that's all she is, but given that the likely Jester role is Snowman, setting her off could cause problems for the rest of us. Again: I don't want to risk it.

She claimed no one targeted her, yet someone did. So either she doesn't have Eagle Eye or she's lying about it for some reason. Either way, she's not town.

Son of a fuck. 15 Felt members. SNOWMAN. That fakeclaim is awful. Too awful. If she's Snowman and we lynch her, odds are, it's Day 1 Game Over. I'm not taking part in this. We shouldn't risk it without more information. ##unvote ##vote Elieson

Mafia probably was provided with fakeclaims, since there are 15 Felt members. Rattling off names would trap them otherwise.

It's the precise division the Japanese game used. You indicated there was something different. They might move the whole schedule up a bit, since the maps are already made. That's no surprise. Also, the Other-World Resort and maybe Future of Despair sets could get mixed in a bit earlier. I don't see anything to indicate actual content changes, though.

No targets to report, no info on any "bad luck" if you get lynched. Do you have any reasoning at all for why we shouldn't lynch you?

That's not how it looks to me. Classic is Series 1: Other-World Talismans. Another World is Series 2: Path of a Grandmaster. Don't see anything indicating a difference yet.

Lynchproof. So we can just lynch you and you just slip out of the noose, you're saying. Unless you have other powers, you're not making a compelling argument.

She was online and reading the thread right before I posted my one hour warning, and after she was told to claim.

That be an hour and no claim. ##vote: Kiryn Don't want to push it closer than this, though. We're back to two away, right? As long as she's in the lead, I don't think there's any point in more.

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Elieson is the first I was thinking of after you claimed. Thought about moving my vote to him, but based on what he said, he and Kiryn would cast suspicion on each other if either was found mafia, so that makes a Kiryn lynch a more sensible option than I had been thinking.

Yes. Olivia gains Swordmaster clothes as a Swordmaster, just as she gains a mount as a Falcon Knight.

Yeah, you hold onto weapon levels. If Chrom gets A Swords then becomes an Archer, then promotes to Bow Knight, he'll get that A Swords right back.

Hmm, Kiryn was here just a moment ago and yet didn't claim. That looks pretty bad right now. If she hasn't claimed in an hour, I'll move my vote back to her. If she does claim, well, we'll have to see what she claims.

Doesn't earn her a free pass, but I'd expect it to make her actions less predictable. That said, this changes things. ##unvote

And Othin learns his lesson: attempting to list everything potentially meaningful anyone says about anyone else in a mafia game is just stupid, even on Day 1. Regardless: what I'm getting is, there's one person who's at the center of a whole lot of weirdness. What's especially standing out to me now is that Prims is insisting on Kiryn for dubious reasons. Recalling the beginning, he commented favorably on a Kiryn lynch before any of the reasons he's citing even came up. Meanwhile, as he says, Kiryn is an easy target. And more than just an easy target, Kiryn is an uninformative target. So little for a lynch to say about other players, regardless of the outcome. We'll know a lot more when we see some flips from people who have had things to say about a lot of people. More reason why lynching Kiryn is a bad idea, and more reason why the mafia would want it. On the other hand, as I said, Prims is at the center of a whole lot of weirdness: he's been behaving strangely towards a whole lot of people. Learning his role will tell us exactly what that all means. He's a good vote because he's suspicious; he's a good vote because we'll learn a lot from it. ##unvote Kiryn ##vote Prims

God damn you people are confusing. Maybe I should draw a chart or something of who's accusing/defending whom so I can keep track of all this craziness.