shane3x Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Does anyone know if I could run into someone using Imhullu online? Or some other truly unexpected along the same lines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamara Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 There are some teams with Imhullu, torches etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolf_UK Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 No it doesn't. The RNG is VERY easy to abuse. Do tell. The random seed is reset every power cycle (or determined based on the frame you hit the button) and there is no way to tell wheat the RNs currently are. You may be able to burn RNs but its of no benefit when you don't know either way. Resetting the game until you get good level ups isn't RNG abuse. If anything it is RNG brute (as in brute force) because there is no burning numbers to only keep the good ones like FE7 (8+6?) RNG abuse. Maybe i'm just weird for wanting to keep the RNG abuse term for games where the RNs are fixed (the random seed is save contents*), can be partially seen and so can be manipulated to meaningful advantage *-The complted playthroughs data and the current file data...there might be more I suppose you are abusing the fact the random seed is actually random (or random enough as in set by things beyond human control) but I can't shake the whole association with the FE7 RNG abuse. And that's why I bought up the things only achieved via RNG abusing, i.e 32 move. ... RNG abusing 32 move. Do tell. typo? sarcasm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 (edited) meant to say things NOT achieved by RNG abusing Blahblahblah. BLADE ROLL! Aren't you being awfully nitpicky? It's more or less the exact same thing: Abusing the game in one way or another to achieve the highest stats possible. Via abusing battle saves/arenas, it's time consuming rather than difficult. All you need is a character not having a 0% growth in an area, and they're guaranteed to max that. Edited February 24, 2009 by Sweet Tooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike-Mike Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 The only bad thing about this game is that it being the first Fire Emblem that has a proper Wi-Fi mode it's also a Fire Emblem that has Arenas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 (edited) It is possible to RNG abuse with map saves (have not tested with quick saves, but if it works for quick saves, then it will work for arena abusing as well). Changing the date on your DS, saving the time settings then quickly resetting and turning on the game will net you predicable RNs if you load up a map save. Map your RNs, then reset and then use those RNs to your advantage. Edited February 24, 2009 by Chainey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If anyone cares, I just ran into one of those hackers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane3x Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 If anyone cares, I just ran into one of those hackers. That's nice to inform us and all, but including some info like the player name, team name, why you think he is hacking etc... would be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) That's nice to inform us and all, but including some info like the player name, team name, why you think he is hacking etc... would be helpful. Player called himself Edward. I didn't get a good look at his team name. But I don't find it likely for Elice to be a Level 1 Bishop around endgame. (Even with good stats.) But I could tell he was hacking because, well, it's not everyday that you see her carrying the Maph/Imhullu tome. (Or anyone else with capped stats all around.) EDIT: Forgot about the battle record feature. The team this "Edward" used was called "~Rule~" Edited February 25, 2009 by Little Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane3x Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 Player called himself Edward. I didn't get a good look at his team name. But I don't find it likely for Elice to be a Level 1 Bishop around endgame. (Even with good stats.) But I could tell he was hacking because, well, it's not everyday that you see her carrying the Maph/Imhullu tome. (Or anyone else with capped stats all around.)EDIT: Forgot about the battle record feature. The team this "Edward" used was called "~Rule~" It is possible to get Elice 20/20 by the end of the game, it just requires a lot of babying. The Imhullu tome does confirm he was hacking though. Maybe I'll compile a list at the start to make it easier for people to see all names mentioned here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvan Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hacker, team GGGH. They had merric and lena with all max stats. Problem being, Lena was level 1. Don't know their username for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolf_UK Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 It is possible to RNG abuse with map saves (have not tested with quick saves, but if it works for quick saves, then it will work for arena abusing as well).Changing the date on your DS, saving the time settings then quickly resetting and turning on the game will net you predicable RNs if you load up a map save. Map your RNs, then reset and then use those RNs to your advantage. This is just the news I wanted to hear :) . It is a bit of a hassle to back up the save at each step with quick saves but indeed it is possible. One bit I don't understand is changing the clock. I understand it changes the RN state but the rest of your post suggests the state is set as the game boots up. I need to clarify the italiced bit. If that the soft-reset *L+R+Start+Select* or hard reset (turn off DS, turn DS back on)? If it is soft-reset, changing the clock while being able to help in the future (since provided map and playthorugh count are not part of the state you can get back to the state) is still marred in huge uncertainty (you can work them out perfectly by finding certain things like attacks hitting, growths increasing or not etc...except, we don't fully understand how the RNs are used up) due to there being no way to currently view the DS memory. What i'm saying is the changing clock step is only required if you want to return to that specific RN state later on which you did when testing it to make sure the clock was the dominant RN state setting I guess the possibility of being able to return to certain RN states ultimately make it more abusable than the GBA FE games (the GBA FEs just have better technology currently with memory viewing emulators...do any DS emulators even work with the clock yet?) but for now it is a bit of a shot in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 One question: Does being able to move the same units again in the same turn (even when the turn could be considered "over") count as hacking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 One question: Does being able to move the same units again in the same turn (even when the turn could be considered "over") count as hacking? Let's see here. No canto. No dancers. No again staff (this will break book 2 wifi, btw). No movement stars. Yep, it'd be hacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) Let's see here.No canto. No dancers. No again staff (this will break book 2 wifi, btw). No movement stars. Yep, it'd be hacking. The reason why I asked is because I fought against someone like that online, and simply put, with that thing I asked about, that person was, well, you know. Edited February 28, 2009 by Little Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane3x Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 You remember anything about him so I can add him to the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 You remember anything about him so I can add him to the list? I think the person was Quinn, team was Manaluna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane3x Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 I'll add him to the list. I've found another one. His player name was Zyle and his team was called Dark Hearts. All units had max stats and movement, Horace (who was a sorcerer) had Imhullu and Starlight had 99/13 uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 My brother faced a dude that had all his people have 80 HP. The game eventually froze itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I wonder if its possible to cause your opponents game to fatal error. Is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) I am versing my first cheater now. Name: D J Squad: lol reason- ALL maxed stats, weapons with 99/X durability, units move as many times as they want, and attack the darkness with torch, 33 movement (The latter may not be a cheat.) Edited March 3, 2009 by Asvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane3x Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 My brother faced a dude that had all his people have 80 HP. The game eventually froze itself. Maybe he just bumped the ds/game card and it froze, then again 80 HP people is haxed for sure. Does he remember anything about the person? I wonder if its possible to cause your opponents game to fatal error. Is it? I doubt that, sometimes how im holding my ds or how im sitting causes my ds to bump against something. Hard enough to freeze the game sometimes. I am versing my first cheater now.Name: D J Squad: lol reason- ALL maxed stats, weapons with 99/X durability, units move as many times as they want, and attack the darkness, torch, 33 movement (The latter may not be a cheat.) I know you can RNA to get more movement but I don't quite see how that works. I'll add it to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane3x Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 This hacker was fun. All stats maxed out, Items like Door key were forged, All items had 99/X uses, All units could move multiply times during the same turn. His player name was bao stinks, team name was BBB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 The topic subtitle: there is nothing wrong with using cheap tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 The topic subtitle: there is nothing wrong with using cheap tactics. By cheap tactics he said he means "deliberately stalling just to make the other player disconnect" or things of that nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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