Nestling Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Getting hit by Ohtz, and then about every 20% near him hitting him, leaving him down to 5 HP, then me healing, getting him to 28 HP, then Ohtz think's he's so ballin' and goes for Gonzales. Oh, and Thany thinks she's too cool to help Gonzales out. Gonzales sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Getting hit by Ohtz, and then about every 20% near him hitting him, leaving him down to 5 HP, then me healing, getting him to 28 HP, then Ohtz think's he's so ballin' and goes for Gonzales.Oh, and Thany thinks she's too cool to help Gonzales out. Gonzales sucks. You're just being very unlucky. 20% all the time? Just rough time with RNG, I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeshroom Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I just killed Gonzales on my last play through because like Makalov, I am annoyed by his looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Rei Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Annoyed, of all things? Gonzales is just your best axe-only user, then Geese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I just killed Gonzales on my last play through because like Makalov, I am annoyed by his looks. ...You're annoyed by your looks, so you killed off the only good playable brigand in FE history? Wow. At least Gonzo's not a scoundrel like Makalov is. In any case, as was stated, Gonzo's easily the best dedicated axe user in the game. Geese is next, but yeah, Gonzo's just amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 The only playable Brigand in FE history, period. Why do you need to add "good" there I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 In any case, as was stated, Gonzo's easily the best dedicated axe user in the game. Geese is next, but yeah, Gonzo's just amazing. Echidna would like a word with that. Plus, I personally find Geese better than Gonzales for being able to hit things more often, but I haven't used him in Hard mode, so I can't say for sure. But Gonzales's accuracy sucks so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Gonzo's accuracy is fixed by the abundance of Lance users later on as well as the fact that he only ever needs an Iron Axe to kill things anyway... if not, well he can use Steel Axes and Hand Axes with no penalty (other than accuracy lol) whereas Geese suffers AS loss. His HM boosts are fine too, he doubles a lot with them. Just as long as you go Echidna's route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 The only playable Brigand in FE history, period. Why do you need to add "good" there I don't know. Because of Marty. He sucks. Hard. And yes, Mountain Thief = Brigand. And Red Fox? I meant dedicated Axe-user. If I meant all axe-users, I'd have included Echidna and Dieck (Even if it may take forever to raise his axe level.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) I managed to get S Axes by the time I got use out of Armads Just keep using Steel Axes. It has come to my knowledge that using Steel Axes or not is irrelevant. However, his skill is decent enough as his, he'll probably get decent enough hit from Clarine/Rutger, and Steel Axe is a nice boost to his Attack. Edited March 3, 2009 by Nathan Graves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 And Red Fox? I meant dedicated Axe-user. If I meant all axe-users, I'd have included Echidna and Dieck (Even if it may take forever to raise his axe level.) Then what is Echidna? Sword? fyi, she starts with a B rank in Axes and C in swords, not to mention she starts with a Steel Axe. She mains axes more than anything. Unless you meant characters that wield only axes, in which case it would be between only 3 characters, 1 of which is pretty bad anyway. Gonzo's accuracy is fixed by the abundance of Lance users later on as well as the fact that he only ever needs an Iron Axe to kill things anyway Maybe, but he's facing a lot of axe users to start. I don't have details on enemies, but I'm pretty sure we don't face FE7 numbers of lance users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I managed to get S Axes by the time I got use out of Armads Just keep using Steel Axes. It has come to my knowledge that using Steel Axes or not is irrelevant. However, his skill is decent enough as his, he'll probably get decent enough hit from Clarine/Rutger, and Steel Axe is a nice boost to his Attack. If you're talking about Dieck, he doesn't get any accuracy from Clarine and only +5 from B Rutger. Then again, I don't think there's anything wrong with giving him a steel axe, so whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Maybe, but he's facing a lot of axe users to start. I don't have details on enemies, but I'm pretty sure we don't face FE7 numbers of lance users.I can probably recall like 50-60 accuracy early on, and that number probably doesn't change much, actually.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Plus, I personally find Geese better than Gonzales for being able to hit things more often, but I haven't used him in Hard mode, so I can't say for sure. But Gonzales's accuracy sucks so much. Geese's hit is only 4% better at base level and a 15% growth lead in skill still isn't fast enough to improve hit significantly. Let's not forget that Gonzales holds significant leads in HP, strength, speed, and constitution at base level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Then what is Echidna? Sword? fyi, she starts with a B rank in Axes and C in swords, not to mention she starts with a Steel Axe. She mains axes more than anything. Unless you meant characters that wield only axes, in which case it would be between only 3 characters, 1 of which is pretty bad anyway.Maybe, but he's facing a lot of axe users to start. I don't have details on enemies, but I'm pretty sure we don't face FE7 numbers of lance users. I guess I meant Lott, Ward, Bartre, Gonzo, Geese and Garret. I only say not Echidna due to her falling under Merc/Heroes. I don't disagree with you, I'm just saying what I mean by dedicated users. I know Lott, Ward and Bartre become/are warriors, but they'll mostly be using axes for attacking, I think. Then again, I'm not one-hundred percent sure. Except that Ward and Bartre aren't that great. Sorry for the confusion. Again, I've no problems with Echidna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Just because he's the "best dedicated axe user" doesn't make him really good. In fact, being a "dedicated axe user" isn't necessarily a bad thing - it means he is locked to an extremely inaccurate weapon, whereas your other dudes (like all the Paladins and the two good Heroes you get to use) have options to trade power to accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 As I say this before and I say it again. It depends which route you take. If you take Lalum's route, there is a huge guarantee that Gonzale is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Nah, he doesn't think he is stupid at all... Gonzales: "I stupid" That is what he says in most of his support conversations, but he is awesome because of Strenght and Speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 That is what he says in most of his support conversations, but he is awesome because of Strenght and Speed. I find this a huge double standard compared to what you claimed about Dart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Especially since Gonzales doesn't get hit from his own affinity, and his support partners are a lot worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Rei Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I think Gonzales is a pretty cool guy.eh does lots of damage and doesn't afraid of anything. Sorry. But Gonzales is pretty much one of the best characters when it comes to personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I find this a huge double standard compared to what you claimed about Dart. I knew somebody would complain, so I thought: "I really shouldn't comment about Dart", well, I don't, watch out people bacause soul1112 will be using Dart on his next playtrough, haha! Oh and by the way... I reached 666 post :P . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykan12 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'm assuming you hold some religious superstition about that number? I don't see anything special in post count milestones in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Every post number is special, because each has its own unique prime factorization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykan12 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 That's a fascinating property of numbers. Whatever meaning we assign to those numbers (baseball stats, post counts, lap times, etc) has nothing to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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