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They're just having a discussion about banning Deoxys-D from OU tier tournaments. Agreed that it should be moved to Ubers to reflect Taunt/Thunder Wave/Whirlwind, etc with Magic Coat along with being bulky enough to set up enough entry hazards to leave your opponents in the dust. Anyway with...

This set and held item...

Deoxys D

Held item: Mental Herb

-Spikes

-Magic Coat

-Stealth Rock/Thunder Wave

-Recover

It will be very hard to stop....

Genesect got banned in OU because it can learn Rock Polish to sweep up many teams and has an only weakness to Fire moves which it hardly even takes much damage from that without a 120 base power Fire move which it probably will survive even that with good EV's and set it up with U-Turn. =P

It can set up Fire types with U-Turn as many are often slow and that Sect will hit it with U-Turn before it can even get a chance to have crack at Genesect's exoskeleton. I love using Genesect as well as Deoxys D. But they would be unhealthy for even the OU tier tournament eviorment. =P

Tornadous-T got barred in OU tier tournaments, because U-Turn Regenerator SPAM in addition to it's bulk. =)

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They're just having a discussion about banning Deoxys-D from OU tier tournaments. Agreed that it should be moved to Ubers to reflect Taunt/Thunder Wave, etc with Magic Coat along with being bulky enough to set up enough entry hazards to leave your opponents in the dust. Anyway with...

This set and held item...

Deoxys D

Held item: Mental Herb

-Spikes

-Magic Coat

-Stealth Rock

-Recover

It will be very hard to stop....

Genesect got banned in OU because it can learn Rock Polish to sweep up many teams and has an only weakness to Fire moves which it hardly even takes much damage from that without a 120 base power Fire move which it probably will survive even that with good EV's and set it up with U-Turn. =P

It can set up Fire types with U-Turn as many are often slow and that Sect will hit it with U-Turn before it can even get a chance to have crack at Genesect's exoskeleton. I love using Genesect as well as Deoxys D. But they would be unhealthy for even the OU tier tournament eviorment. =P

I really don't follow the Pokemon Tier-list stuff...

I just go with "whatever goes in Battle Tower goes."

So Deoxys is out.

Although that means other Uber-tier Pokemon are in.

Eh, competitive Pokemon is tedious.

Especially all that breeding for IVs and training for EVs.

Not very fun, if you ask me.

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Eh, competitive Pokemon is tedious.

Especially all that breeding for IVs and training for EVs.

Not very fun, if you ask me.

You forgot to mention getting the right abilities and natures.

Good thing there's simulators

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I really don't follow the Pokemon Tier-list stuff...

I just go with "whatever goes in Battle Tower goes."

So Deoxys is out.

Yeah, and I'm surprised that Tornadeous-T is allowed in.

Deoxys, Arceus, Mewtwo, and Genesect are out because they are the best Pokemon in the game.

Here are the tier lists...

http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/

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Pokemon that aren't allowed in every tier tournament but Ubers/PWT/Battle Arena. <3

-Arceus (Broken)

-Celebi (Can use it in OU)

-Deoxys (Broken)

-Dialga

-Genesect (Broken)

-Ho-Oh

-Keldeo (Can use it in OU)

-Jirachi (Can use it in OU)

-Mewtwo (Broken)

-Mew (Can use it in OU)

-Lugia

-Kyogre

-Groundon

-Rayquaza

-Palkia

-Phione (WTF. It's NU and can't set up any hazards or boosts.)

-Manaphy

-Darkrai

-Shaymin

-Victini (Can use it in OU)

-Reshiram

-Zekrom

-Kyurem

-Meoletta (Can use it in UU)

-Giratina

-Eggs

Excadrill is really good. EV it in Defenses and it will be hard to stop without Water. It is also protected from both Toxic and Thunder Wave. My Shiny Mushera is good for team support. It's NU, but it is deadly in double team battles as it's good defenses bulk can set up Screens and Trick Room for good support for the entire team. I've got through many PWT matches by doing this. =P

EV train it all in HP and Def and you have yourself a great supporter.

Here's the set I gave it...

Held item: Scope Lens

EV's: 252 Sp.Def 200 Speed 58 Attk

-Rock Slide (Flinch h4xing)

-Drill Run (High crit chance)

-Swords Dance (To add icing on the cake to it's already good base attk.)

-Magnet Rise (Protect it from Ground moves)

And Tornadeous-T is broken too. <3

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obviously the counter is a team of all the slowest pokemon ever!

Which many pokes of the Unova region seem to have a problem to get.

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Bronzong

Reuniclus

Slowbro

Porygon2

Dragonite

Conkeldurr

I guess those are your favored Pokemon for a Trick Room team. I brought up Escavalier because, well... take a look at its Pokedex entry. Note its base speed is 20. That means stuff like Slowbro and Snorlax are going 1.5 times faster than it...

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