Hatari Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I was wondering if anyone knew what Laguz Zelguis is branded with? The list of the ones I know if below Soren - Dragon Stefan - Lion (as far as I know this was never confirmed) Miciah - heron Zelguis - ? arg, there has to be more, I just can't think of any more right now. If you were one of the branded, what laguz would you choose. I'm obviously a wolf :), but a hawk/heron/cat wouldn't be too bad either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) Zelgius is most likely a bird Laguz; I'm guessing Hawk, definitely not a Heron, although he could be a Raven. Stefan's Japanese ending title was "Lion's Descendant", which seems like a strong hint to me. Edited January 20, 2010 by VincentASM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 Can we assume though, that every branded person of the same species has the exact same mark? So two branded herons mark would be the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Petrine could be a dragon or a raven, this is judging by her physical characteristics, as her hair and skin tone does make her seem more of a dragon descent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Can we assume though, that every branded person of the same species has the exact same mark? So two branded herons mark would be the same? Micaiah and Misaha's marks look identical, so I figured it would be safe to assume so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 Ah, cool, thanks. is Petrine even one of the branded? Wow, I must have missed that completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 She is branded indeed. If you have made Soren fight Petrine you would notice she recognizes him as the same species as her, branded people easily recognize themselves, it must be heritage of the laguz since they could also recognize a branded person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) Ah, that's why then. Soren never fought her. So, then I guess she would be a dragon. Question is then, is she a black dragon and if so, who is her parents? The only black dragons are: Old King Fossil, who's name I can't spell Rajion (Ena's Mate - so I doubt it's him) Soren's Mother Prince Kur. (He seems...a bit too young) Additionally, didn't they say in Radiant Dawn that Ena's child was the first dragon to be born in hundreds of years or something like that. I mean they do live to be really old...but it seems unlikely that she's a black dragon, unless there are others. Raven would be interesting too, but since we only know names of three ravens and Vika is scared of the branded, I doubt it's the old crow or the backstabbing King (he's cool though, since he and Lenna get together ooohhh, what about a black lion, not that it's giffica, but that would be interesting too and might explain her fiery temper Edited January 20, 2010 by Hatari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shroudening Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) They actually describe Zelgius as a "Raven haired" general in part III. I wonder... Branded usually don't have laguz parents. They usually happen from laguz/beorc blood mixing somewhere in the family's past. Edited January 20, 2010 by Isaac55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) Ahh, true true. That's stefan's case. Soren is a direct descendant though...so I was wrongly generalizing again.. But for the dragons...it's still probably correct if she's a black dragon, which is still doubtful to my mind. If Petrine is a raven...IDK. Zegluis a raven? I think he looks more like a Hawk. He has the build for it. ravens are thin and fast, but not the most powerful Edited January 20, 2010 by Hatari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) Petrine could be a dragon or a raven, this is judging by her physical characteristics, as her hair and skin tone does make her seem more of a dragon descent. Petrine probably isn't a Dragon Branded, but not because of the placement of her Brand. It is (at the very least) heavily implied that Almedha was the first and only dragon laguz to have an affair with a beorc, and it is explicitly stated that she only had one son and no daughters from that affair. In short, there's probably only one Dragon Branded in all of Tellius, and it isn't Petrine.Did you honestly forget about this?I dunno about what type of Branded Petrine is, but for some reason, I'm thinking either Raven, or maybe Wolf. I haven't really looked that much into this however. Edited January 20, 2010 by LittleAl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 They actually describe Zelgius as a "Raven haired" general in part III. I wonder... I reckon that's stretching it a little. Kyza just calls him a "dark/black haired" general in the Japanese version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 They actually describe Zelgius as a "Raven haired" general in part III. I wonder... I reckon that's stretching it a little. Kyza just calls him a "dark/black haired" general in the Japanese version. Ahh, the wonderful translation problem again. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayt Zelpher Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) I'm not claiming to know nearly as much as Vincent, but from what I can tell (and to summarize): Soren is confirmed to be black dragon, the son of Rajaion Ashnard and Almedha. Big mistake there. Credit to Soulette for catching that. Micaiah is heron, descendant of Altina and Lehran (confirmed in game) Stefan is strongly implied to be lion. His title in Japanese during the credits was given as "lion's descendant" and his Japanese name was "Soanevalcke." (excuse my butchering of the name there). Soan, as stated in the game, was a lion laguz on one of the three heroes that fought Yune 800 years ago. Zelgius is definitely a non-heron bird. He looks like he'd be raven, but hawk is not out of the question. Petrine was stated to be branded in a boss conversation with Soren. Judging by her appearance, she's not a beast-branded, and as stated above, Dragon is most unlikely. Judging again by appearance alone, Raven is most likely. Due to the whole blood pact of Kilvas, the ravens probably had more contact with beorc anyway, making it more likely that she and Zelgius are descendants of a raven and beorc. Nailah specifically says that no wolves knew about countries east of the desert until she found Rafiel, so we can more than likely state that there are no wolf-branded people... Again, just my two bits... Edited January 21, 2010 by Randomly Predictable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) I'm not claiming to know nearly as much as Vincent, but from what I can tell (and to summarize): Soren is confirmed to be black dragon, the son of Rajaion and Almedha. Micaiah is heron, descendant of Altina and Lehran (confirmed in game) Stefan is strongly implied to be lion. His title in Japanese during the credits was given as "lion's descendant" and his Japanese name was "Soanevalcke." (excuse my butchering of the name there). Soan, as stated in the game, was a lion laguz on one of the three heroes that fought Yune 800 years ago. Zelgius is definitely a non-heron bird. He looks like he'd be raven, but hawk is not out of the question. Petrine was stated to be branded in a boss conversation with Soren. Judging by her appearance, she's not a beast-branded, and as stated above, Dragon is most unlikely. Judging again by appearance alone, Raven is most likely. Due to the whole blood pact of Kilvas, the ravens probably had more contact with beorc anyway, making it more likely that she and Zelgius are descendants of a raven and beorc. Nailah specifically says that no wolves knew about countries east of the desert until she found Rafiel, so we can more than likely state that there are no wolf-branded people... Again, just my two bits... Soren is the son of Almedha and the Mad King who's name is escaping me right now. Rajaion was Ena's mate and the father of her child. Soren was used as bait to lure Rajaion to Daien... Aww, no wolf branded *sniff* Edited January 20, 2010 by Hatari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) @Randomly Predictable: You're not wrong about Nailah saying that no wolves knew about countries east of the desert until she found Rafiel now that I think about it. But... Dheginsea: You... are of the wolf people?Nailah: Yes. After the floods, we built our country to the east of the great desert. Dheginsea: ...So we weren't the only ones to survive... Nailah: Until we met Rafiel, we too thought ours were the only people left. Dheginsea: In your country, are there only people of the wolf tribe? Nailah: No, beorc live there, as well. There are also a number of what you call the "parentless." Children born of both laguz and beorc parents are still relatively few.. but they live normally among us. Dheginsea: Is that so? Nailah: That's probably enough chatting. Do you still intend to block our path? Dheginsea: ...I will not deny my goddess. Nailah: And I won't deny my conscience. I will revive those turned to stone, and you cannot stop me. Edited January 20, 2010 by LittleAl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nflchamp Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) There are wolf branded people, just not on this side of the desert. Nailah says so at some point that unions between laguz and beorc happened occasionally in Hatari. Edit: And it came before I finished reading the topic. Edited January 20, 2010 by nflchamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatari Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 Whee, branded wolf people. Haha. Sadly, I would have never gotten that dialogue since I don't let naliah fight the dragon king. I let Ena and his son go after him. (mainly to level them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayt Zelpher Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 There are wolf branded people, just not on this side of the desert. Nailah says so at some point that unions between laguz and beorc happened occasionally in Hatari. Edit: And it came before I finished reading the topic. My apologies. I don't often bring Nailah to the tower, so I forgot that tidbit. Thanks for correcting me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryu Okunato Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think Petrine was a raven branded, mostly cause she acted like a raven. Zelgius I think is tiger branded since someone on his father's side was "with a laguz" I can only assume beast laguz since they're most commonly seen with humans and I would say that could be cat but he seems too strong to be like a cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayt Zelpher Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think Petrine was a raven branded, mostly cause she acted like a raven. Zelgius I think is tiger branded since someone on his father's side was "with a laguz" I can only assume beast laguz since they're most commonly seen with humans and I would say that could be cat but he seems too strong to be like a cat. No, it's definitely a bird. Check the image of Zelgius on this page http://www.serenesforest.net/fe10/cg/41.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryu Okunato Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think Petrine was a raven branded, mostly cause she acted like a raven. Zelgius I think is tiger branded since someone on his father's side was "with a laguz" I can only assume beast laguz since they're most commonly seen with humans and I would say that could be cat but he seems too strong to be like a cat. No, it's definitely a bird. Check the image of Zelgius on this page http://www.serenesforest.net/fe10/cg/41.png Forgot about that, then it's probably a hawk, he seems too strong to be related to a raven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayt Zelpher Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think Petrine was a raven branded, mostly cause she acted like a raven. Zelgius I think is tiger branded since someone on his father's side was "with a laguz" I can only assume beast laguz since they're most commonly seen with humans and I would say that could be cat but he seems too strong to be like a cat. No, it's definitely a bird. Check the image of Zelgius on this page http://www.serenesforest.net/fe10/cg/41.png Forgot about that, then it's probably a hawk, he seems too strong to be related to a raven. Well, I'm not so sure. As I said a few posts ago, it's more likely to be raven simply because of the Kilvas blood pact - meaning that there was probably more raven-beorc interaction than hawk-beorc interaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryu Okunato Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think Petrine was a raven branded, mostly cause she acted like a raven. Zelgius I think is tiger branded since someone on his father's side was "with a laguz" I can only assume beast laguz since they're most commonly seen with humans and I would say that could be cat but he seems too strong to be like a cat. No, it's definitely a bird. Check the image of Zelgius on this page http://www.serenesforest.net/fe10/cg/41.png Forgot about that, then it's probably a hawk, he seems too strong to be related to a raven. Well, I'm not so sure. As I said a few posts ago, it's more likely to be raven simply because of the Kilvas blood pact - meaning that there was probably more raven-beorc interaction than hawk-beorc interaction. You have to remember that that part of the family probably became that way before the pact so that's not necessarily true, though it is probable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shroudening Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 (edited) Raven. His appearance still reminds me of a raven. Stefan is a lion, and his hair reminds me of a lion besides the fact that is is green. Tibarn, although he is not branded, has somewhat messy hair. Zelgius has dark blue hair that is almost black. Naesala has a similar style of hair that is just a little lighter than Zelgius's hair. Just an observation. It does make sense for a raven branded to have dark blue hair though.. Then again, there's always the fact that he could have gotten that kind of hair from beorcs too. Edited January 21, 2010 by Isaac55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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