Ansem Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I just learned how to do that ^_^ Overall it seems like you're throwing crap together. Crap is crap no matter how much crappity crap you accumulate. What Nady would have posted if she were here...... ....... :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I wasn't talking about the Roman Catholic church, I was talking about the Roman Empire, which I think Snowy meant. Not modern-day Rome, or otherwise Halton would be filled with speeding motorcycles and overpiced but very tasty gelato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 That was for intimidation purposes. Dammit Kiryn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purg Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 To be fair, gelato on motorcycles sounds a lot more fun than polygamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive Account Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) But it was fundamentally wrong Kai... Anyway, I think people need to come back to at least near the cave. Edited August 11, 2010 by The Clockwork Alchemist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 To be fair, gelato on motorcycles sounds a lot more fun than polygamy. Seconded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Thank you Kiryn (Morgan has important announcement) A nation full of gelato and motorcycles actually does sound fun now that I think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) But it was fundamentally wrong Kai... HE WAS BUYING IT! To be fair, gelato on motorcycles sounds a lot more fun than polygamy. Purg, that was win. Edited August 11, 2010 by Solf J. Kimblee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive Account Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) @Intimidation: That doesn't stop it from being factually inaccurate! (I am obligated to shoot down inaccuracies regardless of whose side I'm on at the moment.) Damn now I want gelato. Edited August 11, 2010 by The Clockwork Alchemist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Maybe I looked at it the wrong way, but the RL equivalents strike me as more of a base than a guideline. Halton resembles the Roman Empire due to a lust for expansion, and possibly a Senate aside the emperor. As Snowy never laid out the intricacies of customs(one of the things we've been molding throughout the RP), I don't think it is reasonable to assume that is where the similarities lie, since we are only given an outline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) Damn now I want gelato. Mmmmmm Brb guys, im gonna buy me some gelato. :D ....... ...... ......... Where do i buy Gelato? Edited August 11, 2010 by Solf J. Kimblee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purg Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Italy, usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 That sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_whistler Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Catching up on the RP currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive Account Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 No longer immediately relevant but whatever: http://xkcd.com/386/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Check out the most epic thread on SF. Rein, you'll piss yourself. Thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 I am back. Anyways... The Roman Empire... was a historically ****ed up place with laws that changed with ease over the course of a emperor changing as well as regions changing. For example, around Jesus's time, it was still legal in Israel despite the roman conquest due to it being part of Jewish custom. Due to the nature of exactly how Rome expanded (typically via alliance and leaving local customs intact) it' a weird issue indeed that depended on how integrated a region was with the main body of Rome and what it's local customs were like beforehand. As far as I can remember, Rome is also the first historically monogamous empire in the world. Ether is right in that I left most of the customs only outlined and it wasn't necessary to make them 100% perfect. For example, Elyisima has no casino's (or at least any obvious ones) despite being modeled on Vegas. One thing I didn't want to do was hard-force a character into a certain way, which is why I kept the traditions vague as well as allowed for many smaller nations to exist with undefined laws and customs. Either way, I DON'T see why anyone should have a fuss over this. It's taken sixteen chapters for the relationship to even develop to the point where it was possible, and will likely take even MORE to get Esphyr into bed or accepting a marriage proposal from Damian; and barring a RP-wide orgy, I doubt we'll see the pair together as a threesome. To say you're making a mountain out of a molehill is a understatement. It's a mountain out of a inverse anthill. You've flanderized Esphyr to the point of making her a hopeless romantic who will jump Damian regardless of circumstances while overlooking key details, like her reactions and attitude as well as the fact that she's been VERY snitty about the matter; both blatantly and subtly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purg Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Here's an outsider's perspective that no one wants to hear, but I've never been good at listening to my gut, so, let's do this. The issue doesn't seem to be that there's a polygamous relationship. The issue, from what I've seen, is that the main reason that there is a polygamous relationship (as opposed to straight-up love triangle that features more conflict) is because two of the three characters involved are from a nation where those relationships are totally okay, at least for the nobility/military. It seems like a cop out, like when a group of adventurers has their crime ignored because one of them has a major favor from the local magistrate (which I know probably hasn't happened in this RP, it's an example). If it was just, "Oh they have a really open relationship," it probably wouldn't blow over much better, but at least it'd be way easier to justify then, "Hey this entire nation (or enough of it to make it common) believes polygamy is a pretty neat practice to follow." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) I actually wasn't complaining about Esphyr's role here, so much as Halton's polygamy. I haven't seen anything in the structure of the nation that would suggest that there would be any reason for Halton to have polygamy and the other nations...not. If the polygamy actually made any sense in context I would be fine with it, but it's pretty clearly just something Ether decided to tack on because he wants Damian to have threesomes. Notice the lack of anything else Ether has done to establish Halton, it's just been the polygamy. Edited August 11, 2010 by -Cynthia- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) Well the reasons for Halton being polygamy friendly was obvious to begin with. Even Ether hasn't yet denied it being an excuse for Damian's double romance (threesome is a bit strong of a term since Esphyr's being an Esphyr). At this point I really don't care anymore so long as Damian isn't able to somehow weasal in 2 S supports. I suspected this whole thing was metagaming from the beginning. At least that way if it is, there's no double S payoff, though an S and an A that are both romances is also frownable. Edited August 11, 2010 by Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 You just noticed this was purely metagame and copout? Anyway, Damian is at least getting better about not overpowering things. On the other hand, Aiya still has a bit of a corrosive effect on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Just noticed? What part of "suspected from the beginning" did you skip over? I've mentioned this numerous times(especially in pms). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Clearly all of it I guess. Anyway, you and me both on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Well I won't be too pressing on the issue since forcing them to stop the polygamy thing now is petty and messy(retcon-wise). Then there's the fact that there's nothing really wrong with what they're doing ... it was just established with complete disregard for all other factors so it comes across as ridiculous. Um, Luna's post covers it pretty well ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Sage~ He's already back in the cave. Retcon. Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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