Strawman Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 One of those unidentifiable new ones looks like a flying octopus. heck yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuxhero Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Flying? I sure hope not. Flying/Water isn't that good a combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 however Gyarados doesn't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuxhero Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) Yes it does. It loses 25% of its HP upon entering battle, gains only a fighting resist and ground immunity in exchange for a quad weakness to a common attack type, weakness to a common attack type and downgrade to neutrality against another. Edited August 19, 2010 by deuxhero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Indeed, i hate that stealth rock... IMO it should have never been invented. Its stupid to see every single team have stealth rock. I think its overpowered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Flying? I sure hope not. Flying/Water isn't that good a combo. Well that was definitely just a crazy opinion(that I said) so I wouldn't worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Indeed, i hate that stealth rock... IMO it should have never been invented. Its stupid to see every single team have stealth rock. I think its overpowered. I hate it too. I don't think it's overpowered though, but it plays too much of a role in deciding how useful a Pokemon is. e.g. Every single Fire type from OU got pushed down except a few that are ALL neutral to Stealth Rock (Infernape and Heatran). The only reason Charizard is NeverUsed is because of that stupid rock. It's just totally unfair to ignore all of the merits of a Pokemon and put them in a huge disadvantage solely because they're weak to Rock. That move should be banned imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momo Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I hate it too. I don't think it's overpowered though, but it plays too much of a role in deciding how useful a Pokemon is. e.g. Every single Fire type from OU got pushed down except a few that are ALL neutral to Stealth Rock (Infernape and Heatran). The only reason Charizard is NeverUsed is because of that stupid rock. It's just totally unfair to ignore all of the merits of a Pokemon and put them in a huge disadvantage solely because they're weak to Rock. That move should be banned imo. This sounds like you do think it's overpowered. Either way, a simple way to fix this in Gen V would be to make it a one-time only hazard. Meaning, the only pokemon that gets hurt is the next one you switch out. That way it's still got a unique typing, and only hurts you badly if you're down to one poke already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I would like that move more if it did that. I hate to see Yanmega and other worthy pokemons be thrown out of OU because "o look 50% off eww no". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 So..what about that silly lookin grass monkey? They seem to make a lot of monkey/ape pokemon. I want to see its evoultion haha. Actually, I want to see a lot of things evolutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Lol grassape... What i thought when i first saw him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 This sounds like you do think it's overpowered. Either way, a simple way to fix this in Gen V would be to make it a one-time only hazard. Meaning, the only pokemon that gets hurt is the next one you switch out. That way it's still got a unique typing, and only hurts you badly if you're down to one poke already. No way can it be called overpowered when Lucario/Steelix switches in. One-time only hazard wouldn't really be an entry hazard then, would it? It would just hit once, like Future Sight or Doom Desire. Only hope I see for fixing this is to put in similar moves of different elements. When the players realize that Pokemon are fluctuating through entire tiers based on the varying popularity of these different moves, these entry hazards should then be considered too over-centralizing and should all be banned. I hate to see Yanmega and other worthy pokemons be thrown out of OU because "o look 50% off eww no". With Yanmega's awesome abilities, decent SpA, access to Bug Buzz and Air Slash, there is no way he should be outside OU. But thanks to Stealth Rock, he got kicked out. Now just think about BellyZard and SubRoostCuno and it's pretty obvious that the metagame would be quite different without Stealth Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Shogi Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 With Yanmega's awesome abilities, decent SpA, access to Bug Buzz and Air Slash, there is no way he should be outside OU. But thanks to Stealth Rock, he got kicked out. Now just think about BellyZard and SubRoostCuno and it's pretty obvious that the metagame would be quite different without Stealth Rock. Add in a HP Fire/Ground to deal with Steel types and we're set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Indeed, it just so annoying that so many cool movesets and pokemons cannot be used because of a move so overpowered that changes the metagame. I really hope its nerfed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Mostly glad I chose the Fire starter. Remember guys, you can't take back what you picked before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Oh gosh I really hope that isn't the final evolution of the fire starter. A flaming four legged Boar would have so hardcore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Looking at the grass evo, i think i'll pick the water one. I was hoping for a shen long kind of thing... :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magna Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 If the grass one becomes part dragon, it's the one I'll pick but I guess it'll be just another flying/grass... The fire one is a disappointment... another fighting/fire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 It could be fire/dark though I agree it does look fighting type. Especially the 2nd one with his wrestler outfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Rei Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I blame Blaziken for being so damn cool. And you fans for supporting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 If the grass one becomes part dragon, it's the one I'll pick but I guess it'll be just another flying/grass... The fire one is a disappointment... another fighting/fire... I remember something about one of the starters having a new combination. Since the fire one looks like another fire/fighting, and the water one water/ice or water/rock, a grass/flying seems unlikely. Even because I don't think they'd give a shitty type combination to a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Grass Dragon seems like it'd be overpowered just because dragon type isn't weak to much. And it'd make its typing similar to that of a legendary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Grass Dragon seems like it'd be overpowered just because dragon type isn't weak to much. And it'd make its typing similar to that of a legendary. You mean, like Kingdra, Garchomp or Flygon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 You mean, like Kingdra, Garchomp or Flygon? You forgot salamence, Dragonite, Bronzong, Metagross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 I didn't say every dragon type has to be a legendary. I just thought they were supposed to be the most rare type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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