Dark Sage Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Sleep/Berserk/Silence sounds...ok. I dunno. Rescue is lol no and useless due to no movement stat in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Rescue would work better like this: The staff when activated prevents one ally from being targeted during the enemy phase. That would have kept Alferis from getting KO'd. None of that matters though unless the enemy phase is enforced during a stat battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 You know I would be perfectly fine with everyone getting up at the battles end without any non-plot wounds. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 As long as it's not given to Pary. It sounds ok to me. I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 THat's what I meant Phoenix. And too bad. Cause Pary wouldn't save Alf. >_> Found the Barrier formula too. (1/2*Mag +1 +1/2*Roll, Rounded down) Wears down 1 per turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 THat's what I meant Phoenix. And too bad. Cause Pary wouldn't save Alf. >_> That's why Tessa gets the staff, genius. She's the mobile(mounted) one, remember? Also the person rescued obviously can't attack during the following player phase. At the very least they can't attack their previous target, but I don't think they should be able to attack at all personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 You know I would be perfectly fine with everyone getting up at the battles end without any non-plot wounds. Right? Plausbility issue though, people getting knocked down during a fight don't just pop up because enemies are dead. Fortify might solve this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 You know it can be assumed that they were healed afterwards. Do we really need all those posts detailing it all the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 And too bad. Cause Pary wouldn't save Alf. >_> You're only shooting yourself in the foot. If you're going to be biased, we wont let you get more stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I dunno though, if no healing occurs at all, you're just inviting people to pop bck from injuries like nobody's business, possibly with the explanation "I assumed so and so healed me". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 That's not me being biased though! That's Pary. He's in character. Cess and RIta are fine with Sage's characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 You can't choose not to heal people with a mass healing staff if he were to have Fortify, dumbass. You made Pary's character the way it is. It's your own fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 It's also that due to Pary refusing to heal people he dislikes or dislikes him without demanding money, he'd be the worst choice by far to get a Fortify. Let alone whether or not he'd use a Sleep on Alf or Dani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 First of all, Pary doesn't have a choice but to heal Alf if no one gets to him first. The social ramifications are so dire. Second, we need healing posts after battles for context, as well as plausibility and character development. End of story. Seriously, imagine if we had no healing posts. Bal's post count would be cut in half, Pary would cease to exist, and no one would remember that Charlotte is actually a cleric. The healing posts after battles really need to stay. Fortify is fine in the right hands, but outright skipping healing is just asking for story gaps and other godmodding troubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Point taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Well, I kind of imagined that Fortify would only heal more minor wounds/ bring people back to consciousness. More healing could be done after that for very serious wounds. I imagine Bal could find other things to post if he wasn't doing healing. I'm most interested in his opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 The point is, Pary doesn't want Alf healed at all. Or Dani. Or Reika. And the rest he'd demand money from. Why he should never use a Fortify. Otherwise, I like your idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Actually, Money would probably come from Reika and less so from Alf. Dani he wouldn't help her if she paid him. The others are fine since he's under contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 None of this matters, Psych. People are just going to pressure(and I mean PRESSURE) him to do it. Especially Viveka and Jasmine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 My two cents: Staves are all right, but, uh, plot fortify is not exactly a good idea. We NEED the healing posts, otherwise death is cheap in stat combat. As an aside, a stat S-rank stave would be Fortify. You could say it heals two or three units, instead of one person, and nerf it like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Fortify discussion: Phoenix, Cynthia, and Snike covered most of the reasons why at least lip-service (but at times more than that) needs to be paid to wounds. On the other hand, as a healer you notice that either a) You're swamped, forced to deal with taking care of only healing interactions, when there's tons of other important things you'd also like to be doing, but six chapters later still haven't been able to manage to fit in... b) People ignore your healing posts anyway, apparently wanting more attention than you gave, or wanting attention from someone that wasn't you, and meaning that the efforts you put in were wasted. I don't know whether a Fortify option would necessarily fill the gaps or fix either of those. I'll think some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 TBH, the best option would be to have any of the magical-type characters become able to use fortify, but only out of combat (drain can be optional or not) so we aren't stuck depending on Tessa/Char/Pary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Your opinion on the status staves and rescue though? Rescue is an odd specimen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 A Fortify staff isn't really going to fix the craziness with healings overall. In Bal's case it's only going to give Tessa less of a load(unless she's the wielder and in that case it's more of a one time heal most type of thing). As far as "I want Charlotte to heal me" or "I want Pary to heal me!"(I lol'd) or "I want Tessa to heal me!" ... I've got nothing. That's just supporting stuff that doesn't necessarily matter when you're bleeding out. I do notice that on some occasions(not rare, but not common), wounds healed by one healer have to get treated by another healer shortly after. It's a little weird and I'm not just talking about the severed folks. I can't remember any specific times, but it does happen sometimes and maybe that's what Bal was talking about? If so I think people not only need to respect being KO'd, but also respect being healed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Both Bal and I have had our healing posts ignored several times. Sometimes it's just people honestly missing them, sometimes people kinda do it on purpose so Esphyr can do a staff thing or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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