Radiant Dragon Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) And I like it when people finish drafts. Anyway, credits go to Oval for the idea, if it's even necessary anymore. The goal: Finish HNM in as little turns as possible (no Lyn Mode beforehand). The challenge: Each participant takes turns drafting units to use in a snake-draft order (1,2,3,4,5,5,4,3,2,1,1,2...). Units you haven't drafted cannot be used. Units that everyone may use: Hector, Marcus, Merlinus and Athos. Matthew may be used in Ch11, but not afterwards unless you drafted him. Undrafted Units may only: 1. Visit Shops/Armories (but not Villages). 2. Rescue other Undrafted units. 3. Hold items and trade with other units. 4. Recruit other characters. Meatshielding is NOT allowed. Thieves may be used to find stuff in the desert. Keep them out of combat, however. If you use an Undrafted unit for anything that isn't allowed, you will incur a 4-turn penalty. Side Quests should be skipped (since they only add to your turn-count), unless you draft Canas. Participants: 1. Red Whirlwind 2. Silvercrow 3. Radiant Dragon 4. Dustylou2 5. Chococoke Teams: Red Whirlwind: Priscilla, Florina, Lyn, Louise, Isadora, Karel, Jaffar, Geitz. Silvercrow: Pent, Lowen, Fiora, Eliwood, Harken, Bartre, Rebecca, Karla. Radiant Dragon: Raven, Lucius, Kent, Ninian, Legault, Farina, Wil, Nino. Dustylou2: Serra, Erk, Heath, Matthew, Dart, Hawkeye, Nils, Renault. Chococoke: Oswin, Sain, Guy, Canas, Dorcas, Rath, Vaida, Wallace. Edited October 31, 2010 by Radiant Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) Sign me up. I'd say make Matthew free use until Noble Lady of Caelin? Or maybe Talons Alight. For chests and doors, of course. Definitely for Chapter 11 though. It would give whoever drafted him a huge advantage just by virtue of completing that chapter like 5 turns faster. Edited October 31, 2010 by Silvercrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustylou2 Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Normal Mode draft sounds right up my alley; I'll take third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 Definitely for Chapter 11 though. It would give whoever drafted him a huge advantage just by virtue of completing that chapter like 5 turns faster. Exactly. However, no other chapter requires him to finish the chapter significantly faster, since Door Keys are readily available (whether bought beforehand, or taken off of the corpses of enemies). This leaves treasure, which is the point of drafting a thief in the first place, so I'm not sure he should be free use for that. I'm open to opinions, though. Oh, I am going to let Matthew and Legault be deployed in Chapter 23 to find stuff in the desert. I'll edit that into the OP as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) Include me. Also, how about disallowing use of Marcus? And also, I say allow Matthew to open doors on chapter 11. Edited October 31, 2010 by Chococoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 Also, how about disallowing use of Marcus? Hmm... While FE 7 isn't nearly as easy as Sacred Stones, this IS normal mode... I think he should be allowed, but if everyone else thinks he should be disallowed, I'll do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Either allow him or allow him for the chapters that he's forced (up to 15 I believe?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Whirlwind Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 What the heck, I'll take fifth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) Either allow him or allow him for the chapters that he's forced (up to 15 I believe?). I'll allow him up to Chapter 15, since Lyndis's Legion can buy Door Keys in Chapter 16. And then there were five... Drafting order will be: 1. Red Whirlwind 2. Silvercrow 3. Radiant Dragon 4. Dustylou2 5. Chococoke Make your picks! Edited October 31, 2010 by Radiant Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Oh, I was talking about Marcus, not Matthew. Allowing Matthew just for 11 is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 Oh, I was talking about Marcus, not Matthew. Allowing Matthew just for 11 is fine. Oh, whoops. I'll allow Marcus for the entire game, and Matthew for Chapter 11 only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Whirlwind Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 1st.... thats a tough choice... Priscilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) asfagds I was going for Priscilla. Lord Pent, Count Reglay and Mage General of Etruria. Edited October 31, 2010 by Silvercrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 Raven. I like Heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Whirlwind Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 asfagds I was going for Priscilla. Lord Pent, Count Reglay and Mage General of Etruria. Well dang, I wanted Pent... I guess paybacks a B****, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Well, I'm not getting screwed over without a Staffer (see: Radiant Dragon raping the shit out of me in playstyle in the FE6 draft but ultimately losing because of no restore/warp). And I like Pent. Don't really need Staves up until he joins anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Well, I'm not getting screwed over without a Staffer (see: Radiant Dragon raping the shit out of me in playstyle in the FE6 draft but ultimately losing because of no restore/warp). And I like Pent. Don't really need Staves up until he joins anyway. And = Also, just a spectator. I like reading these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 I still think Marcus shouldn't be allowed at all. HNM isn't that difficult, and with Marcus it'll be practically laughable. However, if you all would rather allow him all game, that's fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) Well, I'm not getting screwed over without a Staffer (see: Radiant Dragon raping the shit out of me in playstyle in the FE6 draft but ultimately losing because of no restore/warp). And I like Pent. Don't really need Staves up until he joins anyway. The sad thing is I know I could've done a little better in some of the earlier chapters, but I got lazy due to having to restart after finishing Ch21, and I didn't think that I would lose by ONE turn... Anyway, I was seriously considering picking Serra for that very reason, but there aren't as many status users in this game's normal mode to warrant a healer first pick, in my opinion. And Warp doesn't even show up until Chapter 29. Edited October 31, 2010 by Radiant Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) Meh, Victory or Death is a nice one to skip with all those forests. Also, what's the deal with Ninian and Nils being separate characters? Intended or not? Edited October 31, 2010 by Silvercrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) <div>Meh, Victory or Death is a nice one to skip with all those forests.</div><div></div><div><br></div><div>This is true...</div><div><br></div><div>@Chococoke: Well, if it turns out that Marcus makes the game Sacred Stones easy (Marcuskip? Maybe.), we could simply try it again without him.<br><br>EDIT: About Ninian and Nils: Them being separate allows everyone to have 8 picks. Of course, we could always make Athos draftable, or make the last pick shared by Red Whirlwind and yourself. There's options. What do you think we should do?<br></div> Edited October 31, 2010 by Radiant Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 This is true... @Chococoke: Well, if it turns out that Marcus makes the game Sacred Stones easy (Marcuskip? Maybe.), we could simply try it again without him. EDIT: About Ninian and Nils: Them being separate allows everyone to have 8 picks. Of course, we could always make Athos draftable, or make the last pick shared by Red Whirlwind and yourself. There's options. What do you think we should do? That is what my previous post is supposed to be saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 I don't really mind it, I thought it was just an odd choice because of the strange availability situation between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 They are intended to be separate characters. They perform the same function, but they have different availability, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustylou2 Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 I'll take Serra for my first pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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