Florete Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Here I was about to be all cool posting my code tag of the Haar draft for you to copy into the main post and then I check to see that it's already there. Psh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Topic number: 27404 Draft Quicky: Lyn Hard Mode! Has finished Auctioning, and these have finished already: [color=#073702][size=2][b]Draft Quicky: Lyn Hard Mode [Auction][/b] Vicious Sal - Lyn + Sain(13) + Wil(5) + Florina (20) + Turns(59) = 97 turns Total Clipseykitty - Lyn + Nils (4) + Serra (3) + Rath(4) + (Unknown) = Ring Wraith - Lyn + Dorcas(5) + Erk(5) + Wallace(1) + Penalties(9) + Turns (67) = 87 Turns Total General Horace - Lyn + Matthew(3) + Kent(8) + Lucius(1) + Penalties(6) + Turns(60) = 72 Turns Total[/size][/color] [color=#073702][size=2] [/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) You're not allowed to host drafts anymore, Sal. That formatting in both the draft thread and in here is atrocious. And I thought people with just vertical lists were bad... EDIT: BUT, to encourage participation I should be a little nicer: thank you for informing me. Edited August 6, 2011 by Integrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoz Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I don't draft anymore myself, but after taking a look at the most recent one for FE9 I figured I'd leave this here... (no offense to Core) I guess I could've started a new convo for this, but w/e... Basically, I noticed that you removed the BEXP limits and the ones Core uses for his draft are kinda suboptimal (not to say that mine were perfect, but I think you see where I'm coming from). Anyway, I figured that throwing random numbers as limiters maybe isn't the best way to do this, so I figured working out some actual criteria might be a good idea. BEXP limits, as far as I can tell, have two goals: 1) Keeping Marcia and Jill in check, so that people that didn't draft either actually have a chance 2) Not screwing over anyone else in the process Personally, I'd like to add to that that units shouldn't be strong enough that they can completly trivialize the game (an example of this would be BEXPing Zihark to 20/03, so that he can 1RKO all of Ch. 12), it simply makes it more interesting. I think that probably the easiest way to do this would be to look at what units actually NEED BEXP to be useful (e.g. Rolf) and give them just enough to be useable, then simply ban BEXP for all other units. Whether it's the best way, I dunno but probably not, if you went through each unit and each chapter, you could probably balance this game pretty well. However, this is meant to be food for thought, nothing more, the concrete analysis should probably be done by people like RFoF, RD or yourself and not me. Before you ask (or maybe you don't care but just in case), I didn't post this in the thread because I'm not actually participating in drafts (the Franz thing was an exception because banning should be a last resort, nothing you do to every game's best unit just because) and likely won't in the near future. Do with this what you want I guess, it's nothing more than a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 You're not allowed to host drafts anymore, Sal. That formatting in both the draft thread and in here is atrocious. And I thought people with just vertical lists were bad... EDIT: BUT, to encourage participation I should be a little nicer: thank you for informing me. lol, poor Sally. Anyway, RD, you'd have to consider that Franz's average stats. It honestñy takes him a while for him to start 1RKO'ing and even 2HKO'ing (He misses on a few enemies). Enemies in FE8 are actually tougher than FE7 ones, it's just that the team in general is buffed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Quite frankly, I'm not convinced banning Franz is the answer, and would like to see a draft where he was free, but then this does cause problems with Vanessa, so... I don't know. FE8 and FE9 are difficult games to balance for drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 You should draft FE8 more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 Uh, say that to me, Soul. *I'M* convinced that Franz is a borderline imbalanced starting pick, only barely outclassed by Nessie. That said, I don't think banning Franz is the answer because I think Vanessa tends to shave more overall, but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) In that case... Be glad i'm gone tomorrow. :) *i believe i can fly* :) Edited August 6, 2011 by Vicious Sal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 In that case... Be glad i'm gone tomorrow. :) I'm reasonably certain Integrity isn't serious, and is only asking for you to use a better format in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Enemies in FE8 are actually tougher than FE7 ones, it's just that the team in general is buffed up. I'm pretty sure that was dis-proven, aside from Luck and some of the more powerful monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I remember dondon saying that FE8 enemies are stronger. ;o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Nope, I said that FE8 uses stronger enemies earlier than FE7 does, not that FE8 enemies are stronger. Subtle difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 That actually supports my statement, anyway. Franz takes a while to double and 1RKO at average. I've never had trouble against Franz players. Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I've never had trouble against Franz players. Y What Franz players? Looking over your past FE8 drafts, none of the people who had Franz ever finished. It the same with your 'Oh, I beat Haar all the time' argument: The person who got Haar only finished once, and that was Ulki (who isn't the most competent player. No offense is intended, but I'm trying to make a point here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I'm reasonably certain Integrity isn't serious, and is only asking for you to use a better format in the future. I got that, but i'm still going. :) And future... Well.... At least not for a year. 8D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 What Franz players? Looking over your past FE8 drafts, none of the people who had Franz ever finished. It the same with your 'Oh, I beat Haar all the time' argument: The person who got Haar only finished once, and that was Ulki (who isn't the most competent player. No offense is intended, but I'm trying to make a point here). But it's ture. 8[ And Integ doesn't log EVERYTHING, anyway. It's not my fault they don't finish. 8[[[[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 It's not my fault they don't finish. 8[[[[ This is true. But it's not Haar's (or Franz's) either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 You'll see. You'll see. >8[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 And Integ doesn't log EVERYTHING, anyway. What's that supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 There is a new draft that has started, the FE7 HNM Auction Draft. Here are the teams. 1. Radiant Kitty - Farina, Erk, Fiora, Raven, Serra, Matthew 2. Janissary - Priscilla, Dorcas, Lowen, Louise, Oswin, Legault, Renault 3. Quintessence - Lucius, Dart, Rebecca, Florina, Wallace 4. Shibeebaba - Harken, Sain, Rath, Jaffar, Bartre, Karla, Canas, Lyn, Heath, Nino 5. General_Horace- Ninian, Nils, Kent, Eliwood, Isadora, Hawkeye, Pent Here is the thread. http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=27272 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Random Reclass Roundup Take 2 has finished drafting. It can be found here: :/ 1. mmKALLL - Frey, Norne, Hardin, Caesar, Wolf, Dolph, Beck, Macellan, Tiki, Est 2. Whitefang - Abel, Navarre, Draug, Midia, Lena, Vyland, Darros, Linde, Boah, Arran 3. Horace - Cain, Ogma, Sedgar, Jagen, Gaggles, Matthis, Bord, Horace, Etzel, Ymir 4. Quintessence - Caeda, Catria, Cord, Radd, Palla, Castor, Jake, Elice, Rickard, Lorenz 5. Clipseykitty - Barst, Merric, Orange (Roshea), Athena, Green (Tomas), Purple (Roger), Wendell, Astram, Maria, Minerva Edited August 8, 2011 by General_Horace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 There are so many things wrong with that link, Horace. :p Still, cheers both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 What's that supposed to mean? I was kidding, Integ. Hence the strikethrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 There are so many things wrong with that link, Horace. :p Still, cheers both. THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS A TRAP I fixed it though. Kind of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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