Aquilae Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) SDS brought up an interesting strategy in the tier list, training then early-promoting Sain in Lyn Mode to get a second Marcus. I thought it was interesting, so I'm trying it out and seeing if it really does make that big of a difference. Oh, and I'm using Xeld's average stats patch too. Also, level 5 Lyn coming out of LHM is lulzy. Prologue - 4 turns Chapter 1 - 4 turns Chapter 2 - 4 turns Chapter 3 - 4 turns Chapter 4 - 8 turns Chapter 5 - 4 turns Chapter 6 - 4 turns Chapter 7 - 2 turns Chapter 7x - 4 turns Chapter 8 - 4 turns Chapter 9 - 4 turns Chapter 10 - 6 turns Total LHM turncount - 48 turns Chapter 11 - 6 turns Chapter 12 - 4 turns Chapter 13 - 6 turns Chapter 13x - 8 turns Chapter 14 - 7 turns Chapter 15 - 8 turns Chapter 16 - 6 turns Chapter 17 - 7 turns Chapter 17x - 4 turns Chapter 18 - 4 turns Chapter 19 - 7 turns Chapter 19x - 5 turns Chapter 20 - 7 turns Chapter 21 - 3 turns Chapter 22 - 7 turns Chapter 23 - 9 turns Chapter 23x - 11 turns Chapter 24 - 2 turns Chapter 25 - 6 turns Chapter 26 - 12 turns Chapter 27 - 10 turns Chapter 28 - 16 turns Chapter 28x - 13 turns Chapter 29 - 14 turns Chapter 30 - 7 turns Chapter 31 - 12 turns Chapter 32 - 7 turns Chapter 32x - 1 turn Final Chapter - 6 + 1 turns Total HHM turncount - 224 turns Total turncount - 272 turns Videos: Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=F09730BB3F5FBBD7 Prologue Turns: 4 Could get this faster if I got a 1% critical on Batta, but that's not really viable, heh. Chapter 1 Turns: 4 Standard stuff, Sain eats the boss for more EXP. I may be able to do this faster if I send Lyn over to kill the boss with Kent / Sain rescue / dropping, but Kent can't 2HKO the Brigands so I'd expect it will take the same time. Chapter 2 Turns: 4 Sain kills Glass again, derp. I gave Kent more EXP instead of grabbing the Iron Sword from Lyn. Chapter 3 Turns: 4 Sain gets the bosskill again here, but average stats is annoying because Sain can't double the Brigands (he needs 2 speed procs to do it on random mode =P) Chapter 4 Turns: 8 Sain solos the south side and kills the boss. Defense chapter, not much else to say. Chapter 5 Turns: 4 (can be reduced to 3) Again, Sain grabs the bosskill with Florina ferrying him over. The shop here sells Javelins, and I buy three of them. I could have done this faster if I sent Lyn, since Sain doesn't double the boss, which is annoying. He will need the EXP though. Chapter 6 Turns: 4 I'm not sure whether I should have given Sain the bosskill here instead of Kent, but he reached enough EXP to get to level 14 in Chapter 10 anyways. I could have given Lyn the kill last chapter and give Sain the kill here, but I'm too lazy to restart, lol. Chapter 7 Turns: 2 Not much to say here, I give Sain the bosskill again. Chapter 7x Turns: 4 Sain kills the boss for more EXP, everyone else rushes around trying to mooch kills. I didn't need to grab the Hammer since no-one can use it (besides Dorcas, but he only hit once so far anyway =/) Chapter 8 Turns: 4 I drop Kent over by the two forts to deal with the reinforcements, and send Sain over to smash the majority of the enemies. I shouldn't have attacked the Brigand with Rath and lured him in to give Lyn a kill, but it worked out in the end. Chapter 9 Turns: 4 It's a bit iffy trying to kill Eagler with Sain, but he reached C Swords just before the chapter allowing me to use Lancereaver to get a good chance of hitting him (14 damage, 89% displayed). Sain has the best accuracy on Eagler with an Iron Sword against the Javelin (~60% disp.), as opposed to the Iron Lance vs. the Hand Axe (~48% displayed), or god forbid the Lancereaver against the Hand Axe (24% displayed). Wallace is useless without a promotion, lol. Chapter 10 Turns: 6 (can be lowered to 5, maybe 4 turns if I skip the Energy Ring) Sain gets the job done much faster than Wallace because he can move further. I think Sain could have stayed unpromoted and killed Lundgren with the Lancereaver before promoting, but he gains a level either way and the EXP difference is marginal. I had to draw this one out because I wanted to grab the Energy Ring. If I didn't aim for it, I could finish in 5 turns, maybe 4. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Lyn 05.23 19 05 09 11 07 02 01 Sain 02.01 33 18 09 12 08 10 03 Kent 08.02 26 09 09 10 03 06 02 Florina 06.05 27 09 09 12 09 04 06 Erk 02.45 18 05 06 07 03 02 04 Serra 02.33 17 02 05 08 07 02 06 Rath 07.85 25 08 09 10 05 07 02 Nils 03.05 16 00 00 14 12 05 06 Lucius 04.53 19 08 06 10 02 01 07 Matthew 03.20 19 04 05 12 03 03 00 Dorcas 03.31 30 08 08 06 03 03 00 Wil 03.23 21 07 06 06 07 05 00 Wallace 12.13 30 13 07 05 10 15 02 Edited January 18, 2011 by Aquilae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven Deadly Sins Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Awesome, man. Glad you've been able to put my strategy to good use. Keep up the good work, and I'll be eagerly awaiting your opinion on the Sain-enhanced midgame. I know I've been seriously diggin' the extra paladin all-game long, as my PT is just about to wrap up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquilae Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) Chapter 11 Turns: 6 I can't believe I dodged two 69% hits against Hector (fatal ones too) from Wire, lol. Anyway, I'd need to get a crit on one of the guys here with Hector to finish this faster, but it's like 2% so I don't want to reset that much =P Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 03.35 21 08 05 06 03 09 00 Matthew 04.09 19 05 05 12 03 03 00 Chapter 12 Turns: 4 I have to make sure the Pegasus Knights don't run away without attacking stuff, as that will make me take an extra turn. I kill most of them as soon as possible, and thankfully the last one decided to target Serra instead of running. Marcus ORKOs the boss with Silver Lance. Chapter 13 Turns: 6 I made 8 turns rushing the other way, but this way is much quicker, but I lose out on the Mine and some EXP. I buy 5 Javelins and 4 Hand Axes, because Merlinus isn't here yet =( Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 05.24 23 09 06 06 04 10 01 Eliwood 02.24 19 05 05 07 07 05 00 Marcus 02.32 32 15 15 11 08 10 08 Rebecca 01.11 17 04 05 06 04 03 01 Lowen 02.33 23 07 05 07 03 07 00 Bartre 02.00 29 09 05 03 04 04 00 Oswin 10.07 28 13 09 05 03 14 03 Guy 03.01 25 08 13 13 05 05 01 Serra 02.67 17 02 05 08 07 02 06 Matthew 05.31 20 05 05 13 04 04 00 Dorcas 03.68 30 07 07 06 03 03 00 Total turns: 16 Edited January 11, 2011 by Aquilae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquilae Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) Chapter 18 isn't up atm, will be up in a while. Chapter 13x Turns: 8 This is a pretty hairy defense chapter, so I send Guy over to the left side and leave Matthew to solo the southeast corner, since the Brigands have ~20-30% displayed hit on him and 3HKO him. Marcus not doubling is ultra-annoying, as ORKOing the Nomads and Myrms would have helped a lot. Hector and Eliwood get a C for +1 Def and +5 Avo, which helps quite a bit. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 06.23 24 10 06 07 04 10 01 Eliwood 02.58 19 05 05 07 07 05 00 Marcus 02.68 32 15 15 11 08 10 08 Rebecca 01.91 17 04 05 06 04 03 01 Lowen 03.74 24 07 05 07 04 08 00 Bartre 02.33 29 09 05 03 04 04 00 Oswin 11.17 29 14 10 06 03 14 04 Guy 04.73 25 09 13 13 05 06 01 Serra 03.33 18 03 05 09 07 02 06 Matthew 07.85 22 06 06 14 05 04 01 Dorcas 04.25 31 08 07 06 03 03 00 Chapter 14 Turns: 7 Annoying rout chapter. I clear out Erik ASAP to stop the reinforcements from spawning, and clear out all the stuff with my units. Regrettably, the two Brigands at the end couldn't reach Guy because of the rain, otherwise he would have scored the ORKO on both of them with his Killing Edge. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 07.22 25 11 07 07 05 11 01 Eliwood 04.42 21 06 06 08 08 06 01 Marcus 03.00 32 15 16 11 08 10 09 Rebecca 02.45 18 04 05 07 04 03 01 Lowen 04.94 25 08 06 08 04 08 00 Bartre 02.73 29 09 05 03 04 04 01 Oswin 11.66 29 14 10 06 03 14 04 Guy 06.38 27 09 14 15 06 06 02 Serra 03.77 18 03 05 09 07 02 06 Matthew 08.26 22 06 07 15 05 04 01 Dorcas 04.25 31 08 07 06 03 03 00 Erk 02.55 18 05 06 07 03 02 04 Priscilla 03.00 16 06 06 08 07 03 06 Chapter 15 Deployed: Hector, Eliwood, Marcus, Oswin, Guy, Serra, Priscilla, Matthew Turns: 8 Pretty easy defend chapter. The positions on turn 1 enemy phase were a bit fiddly, but the other parts were a cinch. Marcus cleanly ORKOs Sealen with an Iron Axe as he is weighed down by his Longbow, and killing Sealen stops the reinforcements. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 07.78 25 11 07 07 05 11 01 Eliwood 05.29 21 07 07 08 09 06 01 Marcus 03.68 32 15 16 11 08 10 09 Lowen 06.02 27 08 06 08 05 09 01 Oswin 12.22 30 14 10 06 04 15 04 Guy 07.44 28 10 15 15 06 07 02 Serra 04.32 18 03 06 09 08 02 07 Matthew 08.56 22 06 07 15 05 04 01 Priscilla 03.58 16 06 06 08 07 03 06 Chapter 16 Deployed: Hector, Eliwood, Marcus, Oswin, Guy, Priscilla, Matthew Turns: 6 Sain, Kent and Florina rejoin! Sain was pretty awesome in this chapter, but his Skill sucks ass. I should have bought Vulneraries for Sain, but it all worked out in the end =D. I gave Sain the bosskill because Lowen couldn't touch Bauker. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 08.28 26 11 07 07 05 11 01 Eliwood 05.79 21 07 07 08 09 06 01 Marcus 03.95 32 15 16 11 08 10 09 Lowen 06.35 27 08 06 08 05 09 01 Oswin 12.45 30 14 10 06 04 15 04 Guy 07.84 28 10 15 15 06 07 02 Serra 04.32 18 03 06 09 08 02 07 Matthew 09.40 22 06 07 15 05 04 01 Priscilla 03.93 16 06 06 08 07 03 06 Lyn 06.16 20 06 10 12 08 03 01 Sain 02.72 33 18 09 12 08 10 03 Kent 08.83 28 09 09 10 03 06 02 Florina 06.32 27 09 09 12 09 04 06 Chapter 17 Deployed: Hector, Marcus, Sain, Kent, Lowen, Florina, Priscilla, Guy, Matthew, Oswin Turns: 9 (derp, thanks IOS) Sain helped out quite a bit in this map, ferrying Hector around and bashing stuff around with Marcus. Sain's accuracy still sucks compared to Marcus' though, and the low hit of Javelins doesn't help. Anyway, I manage to give Hector the bosskill here, so it wasn't a total loss D= Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 10.44 27 12 08 08 05 12 02 Eliwood 05.79 21 07 07 08 09 06 01 Marcus 04.37 33 16 16 11 09 10 09 Lowen 07.15 28 09 07 09 06 09 02 Oswin 12.86 30 14 10 06 04 15 04 Guy 08.67 28 10 15 16 07 07 02 Matthew 09.52 22 06 07 15 05 04 01 Priscilla 04.63 16 06 06 08 08 03 06 Sain 03.12 34 18 10 13 09 10 03 Kent 10.69 28 09 10 11 03 07 03 Florina 07.06 28 09 10 12 10 05 06 Raven 05.49 29 10 13 15 02 06 02 Lucius 04.53 19 08 06 10 02 01 07 Chapter 17x Turns: 4 Deployed: Hector, Oswin, Priscilla, Sain, Raven, Florina Florina runs around to talk to Fargus, while Oswin, Sain and Hector try to get some EXP. I skipped the two villages, but they only have a Lancereaver and a Sleep staff, which aren't really vital. Chapter 18 Turns: 4 Deployed: Hector, Marcus, Sain, Kent, Lowen, Priscilla, Matthew, Raven Pirate Ship was noticeably easier with an extra Paladin taking out stuff. Marcus rushes to Zoldam, and Matthew steals both the Elysian Whip and the Guiding Ring. I could have made it a turn faster if Marcus just rushed Zoldam at full move, but that would mean that Kent had to dodge one of the Pegasi to survive, which do have around 60-70% displayed. Marcus taking out that Pegasus on Turn 2 really lessened the pressure on my guys. Also, I buy like 10 Door Keys here for later chapters (mostly Final, and maybe PFoD?), because I know I will forget to buy them later on XD Marcus also hits S Lances here. I don't think Marcus should S Axes, because he does get weighed down by every Axe bar Iron, and I think I'll be using Javelins more for better AS. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 11.84 27 12 08 08 05 12 02 Marcus 05.21 34 16 17 12 09 10 09 Lowen 08.10 29 09 07 09 06 10 02 Matthew 09.72 22 06 07 15 05 04 01 Priscilla 05.11 17 06 07 08 09 03 07 Sain 03.66 34 18 10 13 09 10 03 Kent 11.52 29 10 11 11 04 07 03 Raven 07.44 30 11 14 16 03 06 03 Total turns so far: 60 Edited January 12, 2011 by Aquilae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) Not that it matters much, but Killer Axes only weigh 11, and he has 11 con. Also hand axes have 10 better hit against axes and lances. And 2 more mt. Not sure how much he can double with them, though. 1 AS loss makes a big difference on a guy that is borderline much of the time as it is. Edited January 11, 2011 by Narga_Rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven Deadly Sins Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 If you can afford it, you should probably save some Secret Books for Sain, just to patch up his hit issues. I didn't, but I did find that his hit suffers a bit. At least, until enemies start swinging Steel, then it really doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Draper Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) . Edited July 26, 2020 by Don Draper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquilae Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) @IOS I must have mixed it up with another chapter, it's fixed now =P Anyway, Chapters 18-21 are up! Chapter 18 Turns: 4 Deployed: Hector, Marcus, Sain, Kent, Lowen, Priscilla, Matthew, Raven Pirate Ship was noticeably easier with an extra Paladin taking out stuff. Marcus rushes to Zoldam, and Matthew steals both the Elysian Whip and the Guiding Ring. I could have made it a turn faster if Marcus just rushed Zoldam at full move, but that would mean that Kent had to dodge one of the Pegasi to survive, which do have around 60-70% displayed. Marcus taking out that Pegasus on Turn 2 really lessened the pressure on my guys. Also, I buy like 10 Door Keys here for Final, because I know I will forget to buy them later on XD Marcus also hits S Lances here. I don't think Marcus should S Axes, because he does get weighed down by every Axe bar Iron, and I think I'll be using Javelins more for better AS. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 11.84 27 12 08 08 05 12 02 Marcus 05.21 34 16 17 12 09 10 09 Lowen 08.10 29 09 07 09 06 10 02 Matthew 09.72 22 06 07 15 05 04 01 Priscilla 05.11 17 06 07 08 09 03 07 Sain 03.66 34 18 10 13 09 10 03 Kent 11.52 29 10 11 11 04 07 03 Raven 07.44 30 11 14 16 03 06 03 Chapter 19 Turns: 7 Deployed: Hector, Eliwood, Marcus, Sain, Kent, Lowen, Florina, Guy, Raven, Oswin, Priscilla Urgh, I hate this chapter. The Nomads are so dodgy, Sain only has ~50% disp on them on a forest. And of course, Uhai has to dodge near everything, only Marcus with his retardedly high Skill could get a decent hit rate on him. Raven took the opportunity to grab more EXP through the Pirate reinforcements, and Oswin took care of the Pegasi on the top right corner. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 12.26 29 14 09 09 06 13 02 Marcus 06.23 34 16 17 12 09 10 10 Lowen 09.14 30 09 07 09 07 10 02 Matthew 10.23 24 06 07 16 06 05 01 Priscilla 05.11 17 06 07 08 09 03 07 Sain 04.31 35 19 10 13 09 10 03 Kent 12.03 30 10 11 12 04 07 03 Raven 08.71 31 12 15 16 03 06 03 Florina 07.54 28 09 10 12 10 05 06 Oswin 15.10 33 15 11 07 05 17 05 Guy 09.20 29 10 16 17 08 07 02 Eliwood 06.59 22 07 07 09 09 06 02 Chapter 19x Turns: 5 Deployed: Hector, Sain, Marcus, Kent, Florina, Raven, Matthew, Priscilla Marcus and Sain charge up and clear out most of the mages, while Raven and Florina try to grab some EXP from the other enemies. Matthew yoinks the Silver Card and Hector Seizes. The critical on Aion was certainly unexpected, I thought I had to rely on Sain to hit and hopefully kill Aion. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 12.34 29 14 09 09 06 13 02 Marcus 07.13 35 17 18 12 10 11 10 Matthew 10.46 24 06 07 16 06 05 01 Priscilla 05.84 17 06 07 08 09 03 07 Sain 04.87 35 19 10 13 09 10 03 Kent 12.42 30 10 11 12 04 07 03 Raven 09.74 32 12 15 17 04 07 03 Florina 08.61 28 10 10 13 10 05 06 Chapter 20 Turns: 7 (could be done in 6 =/) Deployed: Hector, Eliwood, Lyn, Sain, Kent, Lowen, Florina, Fiora, Raven, Priscilla, Matthew, Marcus I gave Sain a Secret Book before the battle so that he could hit more stuff. I already have the Silver Card, so Funds aren't a big issue for me. Anyway, Sain really helped out this chapter, as he could double a few Nomads that Marcus couldn't, allowing him to clear out more enemies by the throne. Marcus took on the Shamans with his beastly 10 Res, while Sain rushed left to help Matthew out with the Chests. I could have done this in 6 turns, if I didn't screw up Lyn's positioning. I had to use Hector to recruit Legault, costing me a turn, since Lyn was 1 square away from recruiting him. I didn't shoot for the Secret Shop, obviously, since both are too out of the way. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 14.06 31 15 10 09 07 14 03 Eliwood 07.03 23 08 08 09 10 07 02 Lyn 06.49 20 06 10 12 08 03 01 Lowen 09.58 30 09 07 09 07 10 02 Marcus 07.98 35 17 18 12 10 11 10 Matthew 10.61 24 06 07 16 06 05 01 Priscilla 06.52 17 07 07 09 09 03 07 Sain 05.77 35 19 12 13 09 10 03 Kent 12.98 30 10 11 12 04 07 03 Raven 10.33 33 13 15 17 04 07 03 Florina 09.22 29 10 11 13 11 05 07 Fiora 08.55 22 08 11 13 06 06 07 Chapter 21 Deployed: Hector, Marcus, Sain, Florina, Kent, Legault, Priscilla Turns: 3 I rush towards the boss with Sain and Marcus, Eliwood goes shopping while Kent and Florina visit villages. I could have got Kent more EXP if the Monk hadn't crit him, though it doesn't really matter. Sain lures out Oleg, and Legault steals the Hero Crest from him with the help of Ninian. I buy a couple of Pure Waters, since I might need them in Kinship's Bond, and definitely in Genesis, assuming I'm going there. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 14.19 31 15 10 09 07 14 03 Eliwood 07.03 23 08 08 09 10 07 02 Marcus 08.13 36 17 18 12 10 11 10 Priscilla 07.07 18 07 08 09 10 04 08 Sain 07.06 37 21 13 14 10 11 04 Kent 13.18 31 11 12 12 04 08 04 Florina 09.32 29 10 11 13 11 05 07 Total turns so far: 86 Edited January 12, 2011 by Aquilae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquilae Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) I've got all the videos done, will take some time to upload them all =) Chapter 22 Deployed: Hector, Eliwood, Lyn, Marcus, Sain, Kent, Florina, Legault, Priscilla, Ninian, Raven Turns: 7 It is a royal bitch to kill Eubans instead of defend, since you can't get WTA over everything and because everything has Reavers they come to bite you back with effective damage. Marcus was pretty great dealing with the Mage swarms, but Sain really pulled his weight here. He was a great help dealing with the Knights down below, and helped take out Eubans as well. I buy two Chest Keys, a Barrier and a Physic. I still have a crapload of stuff I can sell, so I needn't worry that much. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 14.97 31 15 10 09 07 14 03 Eliwood 07.03 23 08 08 09 10 07 02 Lyn 06.50 20 06 10 12 08 03 01 Raven 11.52 34 14 16 17 04 07 03 Ninian 04.05 17 00 00 14 13 06 06 Marcus 08.80 36 17 18 12 10 11 10 Priscilla 08.33 18 08 08 10 11 04 08 Sain 08.36 38 21 13 15 10 11 04 Kent 14.11 31 11 12 13 04 08 04 Florina 09.60 29 10 11 13 11 05 07 Legault 12.86 29 09 13 17 10 08 04 Chapter 23 Deployed: Hector, Sain, Marcus, Raven, Legault, Heath, Serra, Ninian Turns: 9 None of my fliers are strong enough to fly around and take out stuff, so I use Heath, since he has the best AS (yeah, 4/5 Con sucks). If Heath could double that Shaman on Turn 8 Enemy Phase, I would have cleared it a turn faster, but I had to drag it out a little longer to clear it, since FoW Rout sucks =/ Anyway, I got enough EXP for Genesis =). Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 14.98 31 15 10 09 07 14 03 Raven 14.05 36 15 17 19 05 08 04 Ninian 04.86 17 00 00 14 13 06 06 Marcus 09.16 36 17 19 13 10 11 11 Sain 08.81 38 21 13 15 10 11 04 Legault 13.23 29 10 13 17 10 09 05 Hawkeye 04.32 50 18 14 11 13 14 10 Heath 10.49 34 14 10 10 07 12 02 Serra 05.67 19 04 06 09 08 02 07 Chapter 23x Deployed: Hector, Hawkeye, Marcus, Raven, Priscilla, Kent, Florina, Ninian Turns: 11 Ugh... this chapter. Took me like twice the number of resets compared to Kinship's Bond, because I need to dodge 4 50% status staffs. I played rather conservatively during the last parts, I didn't move Kent up even though I would have completed it faster. I should have tossed a Swordreaver to Hawkeye, and an extra Door Key, but I'm just glad to have this chapter down. I don't think I'm going to make PFoD Kenneth, because the fighters have about a 1000 EXP lead on the Mages, mainly because I've been using Raven too much =3 Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 15.65 32 15 10 10 07 15 03 Hawkeye 05.94 51 18 14 12 13 14 10 Raven 05.24 44 17 20 23 06 11 06 Ninian 05.96 18 00 00 15 13 06 07 Marcus 10.28 37 17 19 13 10 11 11 Priscilla 10.07 19 08 09 10 12 04 09 Hawkeye 04.32 50 18 14 11 13 14 10 Serra 05.67 19 04 06 09 08 02 07 Florina 10.89 29 10 11 14 11 05 07 Chapter 24 Deployed: Hector, Lucius, Marcus, Raven, Priscilla, Kent, Florina, Ninian, Serra, Heath, Legault Turns: 2 Meh, not much to say here, Marcus lures in Linus and everyone beats on him. Chapter 25: Deployed: Hector, Sain, Kent, Marcus, Florina, Fiora, Heath, Erk, Serra, Priscilla, Ninian Turns: 6 Crazed Beast has a load of EXP, but Heath can't solo the right side on his own, so Florina takes on the majority of the Monks while Heath redirects the Purge and takes on the Pirates at the bottom. FE7 enemies are hilarious, the Pirates have 35-37% displayed hit on level 2 Erk, and lose 5 AS from Steel Axes. I could have done this a little faster, but it would mean putting Florina or Heath at risk (she / he has to rush up and kill the Bishop, and I don't have any Killer Lances, so no ORKO), and I would have to grab a critical on the Warrior as well with Kent. Also, Farina doesn't get any love from efficiency playthroughs, lol. I have like 30k in liquid cash sitting around right now, and I guess I could recruit her if I felt like it. EXP is pretty tight here though, I don't think I would have enough to go around. I got pretty worried about PFoD here, as I still need to gain 400+ EXP in 1 chapter to get Kenneth's chapter. I don't expect it to be that hard, since Unfufilled Heart is pretty tame, and there are plenty of opportunities to feed kills. ~1/3 of the EXP would come from the staffbots too. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 16.58 33 16 11 10 07 15 03 Hawkeye 05.94 51 18 14 12 13 14 10 Ninian 06.77 19 00 00 16 14 06 08 Marcus 10.84 37 17 19 13 10 11 11 Priscilla 11.34 19 09 10 11 13 04 10 Hawkeye 04.32 50 18 14 11 13 14 10 Serra 07.03 20 05 07 10 10 03 08 Florina 15.65 32 12 14 17 14 06 09 Kent 17.78 34 12 14 14 05 09 05 Sain 11.30 40 23 14 16 11 12 05 Heath 12.96 36 15 11 11 07 13 02 Fiora 08.77 22 08 11 13 06 06 07 Erk 06.08 20 07 08 09 04 03 06 Raven - base level 5.00, Level 14.05 / 5.41 - 1446 EXP Guy - base level 3.00, Level 9.20, 620 EXP Bartre - base level 2.00, Level 2.73, 73 EXP Dorcas - base level 3.31, Level 4.25, 94 EXP ============== 2233 EXP total ============== Priscilla - base level 3.00, Level 11.34, 834 EXP Serra - base level 2.33, Level 7.03, 470 EXP Lucius - base level 4.53, Level 5.44, 91 EXP Erk - base level 2.45, Level 6.48, 363 EXP ============== 1758 EXP total ============== Chapter 26: Deployed: Hector, Eliwood, Lyn, Sain, Kent, Marcus, Heath, Florina, Lucius, Erk, Hawkeye, Serra, Priscilla, Ninian Turns: 12 Pretty basic stuff here, Hawkeye goes shopping while the rest of my units laze around at the bottom. Erk and Lucius get the kills here, because I need them to unlock PFoD Kenneth, which is much quicker and less annoying than PFoD Jerme. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 16.84 33 16 11 10 07 15 03 Eliwood 07.03 23 08 08 09 10 07 02 Lyn 06.50 20 06 10 12 08 03 01 Hawkeye 07.24 52 19 15 12 14 15 11 Ninian 07.89 19 00 00 16 15 07 08 Marcus 11.30 38 18 20 13 11 11 11 Priscilla 12.14 20 09 10 11 13 04 10 Hawkeye 04.32 50 18 14 11 13 14 10 Serra 08.43 20 05 07 11 10 03 09 Florina 16.01 33 13 14 17 14 06 09 Kent 01.77 36 13 15 15 05 11 06 Sain 11.69 40 23 14 16 11 12 05 Heath 14.24 37 16 12 12 08 13 03 Erk 10.33 23 08 09 11 05 03 07 Lucius 10.31 22 11 09 12 03 01 10 Raven - base level 5.00, Level 14.05 / 5.41 - 1446 EXP Guy - base level 3.00, Level 9.20, 620 EXP Bartre - base level 2.00, Level 2.73, 73 EXP Dorcas - base level 3.31, Level 4.25, 94 EXP ============== 2233 EXP total ============== Priscilla - base level 3.00, Level 12.14, 914 EXP Serra - base level 2.33, Level 8.43, 610 EXP Lucius - base level 4.53, Level 10.31, 578 EXP Erk - base level 2.45, Level 10.33, 788 EXP ============== 2890 EXP total ============== Okay... I guess I was being a little too paranoid about levels =P Total turns so far: 133 Edited January 14, 2011 by Aquilae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Yeah, I was like 800 EXP behind on my Guiding Ring users at one point and still managed to go to chapter 27K. I credit staff spamming for that, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquilae Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Chapters 27-29 are finally uploaded (stupid youtube messing up my vids...), Chapters 30 and 31 will be uploaded too in a few moments. EDIT: I finished my PT, the vids will be up soon! =) I don't think I will go 31x, but I'm kind of running low on Killer Weapons, so it may be an option =P Of course, I have a buttload of Silvers and there are only 3 more chapters, so I could care less. Chapter 27 (Kenneth) Deployed: Hector, Marcus, Sain, Serra, Florina, Heath, Priscilla, Hawkeye, Kent, Raven, Legault, Ninian Turns: 10 I promoted Florina, who is a great help here, ferrying stuff with 4 Move in the Snow. I don't know about promoting Heath though, but he didn't get a level this chapter >_> I could rush to the throne faster, but I have to wait for Harken, who arrives on Turn 10, and I can't gib the enemies down below either because I can't kill too many promoted enemies or else Karel will appear. I had a few close calls with Purge, Kenneth's Purge is especially damaging, and it didn't help that Raven couldn't crit him (should have used Kent to finish off the SM and use Sain to finish Kenneth). I sort of messed up the positioning of Marcus at the end since I only had a general idea of where Harken would appear, but I managed to make it work out, heh. =) Used the Speedwing on Hawkeye too. Aaaand... now we have Battle Before Dawn. >_> Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 17.01 34 17 11 10 08 16 04 Hawkeye 08.43 52 20 15 14 15 15 11 Ninian 08.74 20 00 00 17 16 07 09 Marcus 11.58 38 18 20 13 11 11 11 Priscilla 13.65 20 10 11 12 14 04 11 Serra 09.57 21 06 07 11 11 03 09 Florina 02.14 39 15 14 18 14 08 11 Kent 02.02 37 13 15 15 05 11 06 Sain 12.13 41 24 15 16 12 12 05 Heath 14.96 37 16 12 12 08 13 03 Legault 14.17 30 10 14 18 11 09 05 Raven 05.97 44 17 20 23 06 11 06 Chapter 28 Deployed: Hector, Pent, Harken, Sain, Kent, Marcus, Ninian, Priscilla, Florina, Legault Turns: 15 or 16 (I don't think Enemy Phase counted that last turn, could be wrong) I promoted Priscilla before this chapter for more Move. Killing Ursula early stops the reinforcements, so the last few turns are pretty easy. Zephiel and Jaffar decided not to die this time, so I had this done on the 3rd try. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 17.35 34 17 11 10 08 16 04 Ninian 10.25 22 00 00 18 17 07 10 Marcus 11.84 38 18 20 13 11 11 11 Priscilla 01.45 23 12 12 12 14 06 14 Serra 09.57 21 06 07 11 11 03 09 Florina 02.34 39 15 14 18 14 08 11 Kent 02.94 37 13 15 15 05 11 06 Sain 12.52 41 24 15 16 12 12 05 Pent 06.84 33 18 21 17 14 11 16 Harken 09.97 43 23 21 18 12 16 12 Legault 14.27 30 10 14 18 11 09 05 Chapter 28x Turns: 13 Deployed: Hector, Nino, Hawkeye, Sain, Marcus, Kent, Florina, Heath, Ninian, Pent, Priscilla I gave the Boots to Ninian, and promoted Heath. Annoying paths are annoying. I spent like 5 turns waiting for the bridge, and I couldn't go down safely because of Sonia's Bolting. I had a few close calls, but I managed to get through pretty easily otherwise. Also, Hawkeye is a beast in this chapter. He took out like half the map my himself, which is an amazing feat. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 17.77 34 17 11 10 08 16 04 Ninian 11.61 22 00 00 18 17 07 10 Marcus 11.84 38 18 20 13 11 11 11 Priscilla 01.45 23 12 12 12 14 06 14 Serra 09.57 21 06 07 11 11 03 09 Florina 02.34 39 15 14 18 14 08 11 Kent 02.94 37 13 15 15 05 11 06 Sain 12.52 41 24 15 16 12 12 05 Pent 06.84 33 18 21 17 14 11 16 Harken 09.97 43 23 21 18 12 16 12 Legault 14.27 30 10 14 18 11 09 05 Hawkeye forgot to log his stats, lol Chapter 29 Deployed: Hector, Hawkeye, Marcus, Raven, Harken, Pent, Sain, Ninian, Florina, Priscilla Turns: 14 I used an Angelic Robe and Tailsman on Priscilla. I took only a few resets to get this map down, and I can't be bothered to try for a lower turncount =P. Anyway, Harken was the MVP for this chapter, shrugging off hits with impunity and ORKOing everything in sight. Only Raven can double the Valkyries and I had to resort to using the Brave Lance or the Brave Sword to ORKO them. I messed up the positions at the end, I should have left Hawkeye there or sent Vaida to kill them with her Spear, but a win's a win when it's freaking Cog of Destiny =) The vid is lower quality because I did it on stream, so I hope you all don't mind. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 01.00 39 18 14 14 08 18 09 Ninian 11.61 22 00 00 18 17 07 10 Marcus 12.74 38 18 20 13 11 11 12 Priscilla 04.24 31 13 13 13 16 06 17 Florina 02.72 39 15 14 18 14 08 11 Sain 15.03 43 25* 16 17 13 12 05 Pent 10.41 35 19 21 18 15 13 17 Harken 13.17 46 24 22 21 13 17 13 Hawkeye 12.60 52 21 16 16 16 16 13 Raven 08.68 46 19 22 24 07 11 07 Chapter 30 Deployed: Hector, Pent Turns: 7 Pretty self-explanatory, Hector rushes forward and Pent uses Warp and supports him from behind with Physic. I didn't expect Hector to crit Kaim twice though, although he would be down the next turn if both hits connected on Player and Enemy phase (Pent could Physic Hector on player phase). Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 02.54 40 19 14 14 08 18 09 Pent 11.77 36 20 22 19 16 14 17 Chapter 31 Deployed: Hector, Eliwood, Lyn, Lucius, Priscilla, Heath, Vaida, Raven, Florina, Legault Deployed at the bottom section: Harken, Marcus, Hawkeye, Pent Turns: 12 I gave Lucius a Guiding Ring, and Sain a Dragonshield. This chapter is pretty daunting at the start, with about 50 enemies rushing towards you and status flying everywhere. Thankfully, I manage to lure and take down Denning relatively easily, thus stopping all the reinforcements and making the chapter much easier, like Battle Before Dawn. Legault grabbed all the treasures here. Harken is once again MVP, soloing most of the bottom part together with Hawkeye. The Nosferatu Druids were very scary, with ridiculous damage output (~25-30 damage, at roughly 50% chance), but they are much more manageable after Denning is off the field. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 03.64 41 19 15 15 08 19 09 Pent 12.14 36 20 22 19 16 14 18 Marcus 13.03 39 18 21 14 11 11 12 Priscilla 04.66 31 13 13 13 16 06 17 Florina 02.96 39 15 14 18 14 08 11 Sain 15.63 43 25* 16 17 13 14 05 Pent 10.41 35 19 21 18 15 13 17 Harken 15.76 47 25* 23 21 13 18 13 Hawkeye 13.45 55 22 16 17 17 16 13 Raven 08.96 46 19 22 24 07 11 07 Lucius 01.08 25 13 10 12 03 04 12 Heath 03.65 43 17 15 15 08 14 05 Legault 14.28 30 10 14 18 11 09 05 Vaida 09.83 46 22 21 16 11 22 07 Chapter 32 Deployed: Hector, Priscilla, Pent, Vaida, Florina, Heath, Harken, Raven, Jaffar, Louise, Sain, Kent, Marcus, Nils, Hawkeye Turns: 7 Urgh, could have made it 6 if it weren't for that annoying Sage that blocked the way, so Hector couldn't Seize on that turn. Broke my Rescue Staff too, but that isn't vital anyway. Just spamming Warp here, since I don't really need that much of it for Final and 32x. Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res Hector 04.18 42 20 15 15 09 19 09 Pent 14.88 37 21 22 20 17 15 18 Marcus 13.03 39 18 21 14 11 11 12 Priscilla 04.66 31 13 13 13 16 06 17 Florina 02.96 39 15 14 18 14 08 11 Sain 15.63 43 25* 16 17 13 14 05 Pent 10.41 35 19 21 18 15 13 17 Harken 17.81 49 25* 24 22 14 19 14 Hawkeye 13.45 55 22 16 17 17 16 13 Raven 08.96 46 19 22 24 07 11 07 Heath 03.65 43 17 15 15 08 14 05 Legault 14.28 30 10 14 18 11 09 05 Vaida 09.83 46 22 21 16 11 22 07 Kent 03.49 38 14 16 16 05 11 06 Louise 05.16 28 12 14 17 16 09 12 Jaffar 13.60 34 19 25 24 10 15 11 Chapter 32x Turns: 1 Okay, anti-climatic, I know. Pent Warps Jaffar in and he procs a Silencer to off Kishuna. Final Chapter Turns: 6 + 1 Not much to say here, but I made a silly mistake with the Berserk Staff here, Berserking Linus instead of Lloyd. However, I was still able to take them down, and it might not have cost a turn, because Athos needed to land a crit on Nergal to end him. Next part is pretty standard, I guess. Final Stats: Unit Lv.Ex HP Str Skl Spd Luk Def Res B W Sain 16.29 44 25* 16 18 13 17 06 239 158 Marcus 13.03 39 18 21 14 11 11 12 195 139 Hawkeye 13.45 55 22 16 17 17 16 13 148 85 Hector 04.33* 42 20 15 15 09 19 09 146 66 Kent 03.49 38 14 16 16 05 11 06 102 52 Harken 18.70 50 25* 24 23 14 19 14 97 69 Raven 10.55 48 20 22 25 08 12 07 97 67 Florina 02.96 39 15 14 18 14 08 11 75 40 Heath 03.65 43 17 15 15 08 14 05 69 33 Oswin 15.10 33 15 11 07 05 17 05 68 33 Lowen 09.58 30 09 07 09 07 10 02 53 20 Pent 17.04 39 22 23 21 18 16 19 29 23 Nils 14.40 25 00 00 21 21 09 13 24 0 Vaida 11.29 47 22 21 17 12 23 07 22 11 Athos 20.00 40 30 24 20 25 20 28 14 8 Priscilla 05.55 32 13 14 13 17 06 18 11 2 Jaffar 16.43 36 20 26 25 11 16 12 8 5 Some mistakes I made during this PT: - Giving the Energy Ring to Florina instead of Kent, because I rarely used Florina for combat, Kent saw far more use as he doubles and has better durability - Tossing the Body Ring to Raven instead of giving it to Athos - derp, lol - Sending a mount over to grab a Soldier out of the way so that Raven could recruit Lucius on Turn 8 of Chapter 17, I wouldn't have to delay the Seize - Not leaving Hawkeye or Vaida behind to deal with the Wyverns in CoD, cost me quite a lot of turns - Promoting Raven before Genesis - I got overly paranoid about EXP needed for PFoD Kenneth and I promoted Raven to gimp his EXP gain. If I had promoted Raven in the middle of the chapter, he would have gained like 5 levels as each kill was worth 70-80 EXP. I still ended up with a 400 EXP surplus. - Not buying enough Killers in Chapter 26, I had barely enough to go around, I would have bought a few more Axes and Lances and skipped the Bows (Louise isn't great by any means) - I don't know whether I should have promoted Sain before beating on Lundgren, as Sain could deal with him really easily using the Lancereaver either way, and I would have got more EXP out of it. - Dropping Hector on the left side of Florina in Chapter 32, Pent couldn't Warp Hector far enough to reach the throne, all he needed was 1 space more which made me sad =( Edited January 18, 2011 by Aquilae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Pretty nice for a haphazard playthrough, but I'm sure you could cut down on the turns a lot had you bothered to do more planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergeshwan Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 It's great to see that promoted Sain makes it possible to steal the Silver Card and pull a 5 turn on 19x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquilae Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 Pretty nice for a haphazard playthrough, but I'm sure you could cut down on the turns a lot had you bothered to do more planning. Yeah, I kinda screwed up towards the end, especially in 28x (Night of Farewells) and 29 (Cog of Destiny). I really want to see what you'll do for your 0% growths playthrough, though =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) Yeah, I kinda screwed up towards the end, especially in 28x (Night of Farewells) and 29 (Cog of Destiny). I really want to see what you'll do for your 0% growths playthrough, though =P Earlygame is much of the same, but I came up with some pretty cool strategies starting in chapter 22. These videos won't be up for awhile, though, so I'll comment on some disparities that I noticed on a cursory glance at some of your chapter strategies. Chapter 22: You kind of went about charging Eubans the wrong way. The first thing I noticed was that you initially went south; this led to corridors getting clogged and impeding your progress. What I did was to have Marcus and Isadora charge Eubans at the same time while going through that door on the RHS. Isadora ORKO'd WKs with a Silver Sword while standing in the doorway on turn 1; the end result was that I only ever had to KO 1 WK on turn 2 player phase in order to clear my path to Eubans. The NPC knights were excellent distractions. Chapter 23: Use 2 fliers on this map, not one. You should have deployed Florina or Fiora instead or Marcus, Raven, or Sain. The fliers are pretty mediocre at combat at this point in the game. Chapter 23x: The difference here, in a nutshell, was Isadora and Rath. Also, I'm not sure if you were aware of this, but if you attack Kishuna and force him to leave the map, his cohort of powerful promoted enemies also leaves with him. You might as well do this in the turn before he leaves on his own. Chapter 25: You can 3 turn this easily if you skip Farina (which you did). Also, a promoted flier has enough move to KO the bishop from 1 range on turn 2. Since you took 6 turns, you probably should have recruited Farina. Chapter 28x: I know you only have 3 fliers, but I'm not sure why you didn't abuse all of them as much as possible. I essentially completely ignored the walkways on this map. Chapter 29: You seem to have concentrated your entire army when moving across the map. I split my units into 2 groups. Granted, I had to get lucky with dodging a couple of 50ish hit Silence staves. This map is brutal for 0% growths, though. Edited January 19, 2011 by dondon151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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