Integrity Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 But when I actually look at that SNES9x icon, I think "urgh prologue and such". And then I realize something horrible. Gen 1 is nothing more than a solid game and the predecessor to Gen 2. I really only love Gen 2. Is that weird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 naw, gen 2 > gen 1. I always wanna see how my kids turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 It isn't that weird. Sure, 1st gen has a much, much better story than the 2nd's... but let's face it, story only really matters when you're playing for the first time, with very few exceptions. The function of 1st gen in replays (self-imposed challenges aside) is mostly setting up pairings. Which reminds me, I still need to try Bridget/Noish and Lachesis/Claude one of these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I found FE4 to be very overrated. The maps are pretty unbalanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I dunno. I like First Gen characters better with bros like Sigurd, Levin, and Beowulf. Gen 2 has in their place... Celice, Sety, and Delmud. None of who are as cool as their dad (and if you like Fin x Lachesis Fin is still cooler than Delmud). Gen 1 has Briggid. Gen 2 has Faval, who is cool but Briggid is cooler. For story, Gen 1 stomps Gen 2. For chapters, all of the Gen 1 chapters have awesome maps. Gen 2 is mostly good but I don't really like Ch. 7 (wtf random avalanche and deseeerrtttt) 8 or 9 (not really as much places to go as it looks because of all the mountaisn :(). Chapter 6, 10, and Final are awesome though. Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Generation One's maps are really tedious though, at least in my opinion. Ch. 1 has the Spirit Forest, which takes forever to get through, Ch. 4 has more trees in the north and mountains in the south and Ch. 5 has desert on the way to Veltomer. Not to mention the huge U-turns in Ch. 2, Ch. 3 and Ch. 4. Sure, there's Return/Warp, but there's always going to be stragglers. The only maps I liked were Prologue and Final... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) Generation One's maps are really tedious though, at least in my opinion. Ch. 1 has the Spirit Forest, which takes forever to get through, Ch. 4 has more trees in the north and mountains in the south and Ch. 5 has desert on the way to Veltomer. Not to mention the huge U-turns in Ch. 2, Ch. 3 and Ch. 4. Sure, there's Return/Warp, but there's always going to be stragglers. The only maps I liked were Prologue and Final... How are 7 and 9 not tedious. Yeah, forest, admitted. But Chapter 6 can have a lot of backtracking too. The U-turns aren't that bad in 2 and 3 because roads everywhere. 4 I can agree with but everything else is minor. In all of them, you can just station most guys in further up places while Sigurd and some people seize. Desert yes, but Ch. 7s desert is worse. 7 requires just as much backtracking as 4. 10 also has backtracking, about as much as 3. Prologue is great, but Final has most of your team sit and do nothing for a lot of the map while Holy Weapon dudes rush. Edited March 16, 2011 by Reinfleche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) Final is super un-fun without any Holy Weapons besides ALMIGHTY TYRFING, so I learned. Edited March 16, 2011 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 How are 7 and 9 not tedious. Yeah, forest, admitted. But Chapter 6 can have a lot of backtracking too. The U-turns aren't that bad in 2 and 3 because roads everywhere. 4 I can agree with but everything else is minor. In all of them, you can just station most guys in further up places while Sigurd and some people seize. Desert yes, but Ch. 7s desert is worse. 7 requires just as much backtracking as 4. 10 also has backtracking, about as much as 3. Prologue is great, but Final has most of your team sit and do nothing for a lot of the map while Holy Weapon dudes rush. I was talking about the first generation mainly, which is why I didn't mention Ch. 7. Plus, I like Crossing the Desert. And I don't remember Ch. 8 - 10 having much backtracking, but that might be because I've only played this game once (well, and the draft, but I haven't been devoting much energy to that lately). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Use ZNES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Use ZNES. I do. What does that have to do with anything, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I said it to Integ. 8[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Why in balls name would I use ZSNES? I did once and saw no improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 If you're already used to Snes9x, there's no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Does Snes9x have snowflakes on the opening menu? Does Snes9x start with Z? Does SeverIan use Snes9x? No. No. No. Whatever. De gustibus non est disputandum. Use snes9x if you want losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Why in balls name would I use ZSNES? I did once and saw no improvement. This: Does Snes9x have snowflakes on the opening menu? Does Snes9x start with Z? Does SeverIan use Snes9x? No. No. No. Whatever. De gustibus non est disputandum. Use snes9x if you want losers. Snes9x is just an overused emulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 *takes a third option* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Snes9x is just an overused emulator. Not quite. There's a reason why people use it to make SNES tool-assisted speedruns. (By the way, I only use Snes9x to watch said speedruns. I'm too used to ZSNES.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Not quite. There's a reason why people use it to make SNES tool-assisted speedruns. And not just for TAS'es either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 This reminds of the time MarthKoopa went out of his way to argue that ZSNES >>>>>>>>>> SNES9x and that any1 using SNES9x is stupid like the FACT MASTER that he is. Just use your preferred emulator. Do a Sigurd Solo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I was talking about the first generation mainly, which is why I didn't mention Ch. 7. Plus, I like Crossing the Desert. And I don't remember Ch. 8 - 10 having much backtracking, but that might be because I've only played this game once (well, and the draft, but I haven't been devoting much energy to that lately). Which is why I'm bringing it up because I would say Gen 2 Maps are just as tedious as Ge 1 at times. well I fucking hate it every damn time. so. much. work. Chapter 8 and 9 don't necessarily have backtracking, but you do have to send people to your castles to defend the Dracoknights, especially in chapter 9. Also you have to be kinda slow to get Hannibal and Corple. Chapter 10 distinctly requires backtracking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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