Super Mecha Death Christ Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) I'd rather see a new game than a remake. That said, Intelligent Systems Fire Emblem team seems rather incompetent when it comes to 2D or 3D graphics. They were on the right track with Radiant Dawn, but god knows if they can adapt their assets for the 3DS. Or maybe they'll build it from ground up? Their 2D graphics ever since the GBA can be best described as funky and not in a good way. If the game was in 3D, I'd rather they put more effort into going full cel-shaded than the half-assed almost cel-shaded look for the beta FE9 screens. I don't trust IS when it comes to other more advanced shaders. At least they got bloom and EMBM functioning on RD. I'd rather not see a remake of 4 and 5 simply because people will bitch no matter what they do. Edited March 30, 2011 by Super Mecha Death Christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Not bothered and 3D graphics, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galenforcer Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I don't care, there should just be a new FE game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 New game. A bit tired with remakes right now. I don't mind either 2D or 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I don't really see the point of adding in 3D graphics. It adds very little and only makes production longer and more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 There's really no need for a remake, since FE4-6 are all fairly polished enough. FE1 and Book 2 really needed some of the changes in their remakes. Regardless, I definitely want a new Fire Emblem title, and preferably 2D. Maybe it'd actually convince me to buy a 3DS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I don't really see the point of adding in 3D graphics. It adds very little and only makes production longer and more expensive. Graphics whores disagree [that it adds very little]. I personally don't value high-end graphics much myself, but it's pretty obvious that Nintendo in particular is always known for being on the short end in the graphics department. For developers trying to sell, the way a game looks can sometimes be more important than the actual game part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I don't really care whether it's a remake or completely new, but 3D graphics please. Because that way we won't have SD/NM style "sprites." If we got actual 2D again, I'd be just as happy as with 3D, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Graphics whores disagree [that it adds very little]. I personally don't value high-end graphics much myself, but it's pretty obvious that Nintendo in particular is always known for being on the short end in the graphics department. For developers trying to sell, the way a game looks can sometimes be more important than the actual game part. Yeah. It's the FUN and CHALLENGE that counts. Not eyecandy koolio graphics and flashy animations that only bring more n00bs to the series. /Totally not advertising FE5 Edited March 30, 2011 by Soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Graphics whores disagree [that it adds very little]. I personally don't value high-end graphics much myself, but it's pretty obvious that Nintendo in particular is always known for being on the short end in the graphics department. For developers trying to sell, the way a game looks can sometimes be more important than the actual game part. Yet despite the supposedly inferior graphics of the DS and Wii, they completely dominated the market and made Sony and Microsoft look like chumps. Graphics is important, to a certain extent, but it's perfectly reasonable for a game to have poor technical specs and still look good. To borrow an analogy from Yahtzee, you don't create the best painting by using the most expensive paints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Not eyecandy koolio graphics and flashy animations that only bring more n00bs to the series. These flashy animations and the like help attract new people to the series, thus making the FE series more profitable, which in turn results in more FE games being produced. And you say that you are against this, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Yet despite the supposedly inferior graphics of the DS and Wii, they completely dominated the market and made Sony and Microsoft look like chumps. Graphics is important, to a certain extent, but it's perfectly reasonable for a game to have poor technical specs and still look good. To borrow an analogy from Yahtzee, you don't create the best painting by using the most expensive paints. I don't doubt that. Luckily Nintendo has a reputation and dedicated fans, making their graphics not as big of a deal, at least when it comes to their more popular franchises, one of which Fire Emblem is not. Again, I'm not a graphics whore myself. I generally couldn't care less what a new game looks like as long as it doesn't look like it's ten years old or like they didn't even try. But the entire gaming world is not me, and graphics are always a big discussion. These flashy animations and the like help attract new people to the series, thus making the FE series more profitable, which in turn results in more FE games being produced. And you say that you are against this, right? See, NinjaMonkey knows what I'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 These flashy animations and the like help attract new people to the series, thus making the FE series more profitable, which in turn results in more FE games being produced. And you say that you are against this, right? Yeah. It's the FUN and CHALLENGE that counts. Not eyecandy koolio graphics and flashy animations that only brings more n00bs to the series. /Totally not advertising FE5 And this sentence is to avoid a verbal warning due to one-word posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 ...and graphics are always a big discussion. It gets bigger once you step into the world of PC gaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Looks like Soul is against the series expanding it's fanbase (which is really dumb, if you ask me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I happen to appreciate decency and not heavy commercializing. Just look where that's gotten celebrities these days. Popularity =/= Decency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) Just as long as they don't use GBA style animations, I'm in. EDIT: Also, I voted polygonal graphics because FE9 & 10's graphics are already like looking into a Diorama to begin with, which will mesh well with the 3D effect, and camera angles are good for making use of 3D. Edited March 31, 2011 by Highlander!Rody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) I happen to appreciate decency and not heavy commercializing. Just look where that's gotten celebrities these days. Popularity =/= Decency Console games get commercialized to death when compared to PC games. Even Fire Emblem, despite not suffering as much. Just saying. Edited March 31, 2011 by Radeon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 And this sentence is to avoid a verbal warning due to one-word posts. Because none of us were noobs when we started the series, right? Looks like Soul is against the series expanding it's fanbase (which is really dumb, if you ask me). I agree, it is really dumb. I happen to appreciate decency and not heavy commercializing. Just look where that's gotten celebrities these days. Popularity =/= Decency Apples and oranges. You talk like having better graphics and/or a bigger fanbase will automatically make the games worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Again, I'm not a graphics whore myself. I generally couldn't care less what a new game looks like as long as it doesn't look like it's ten years old or like they didn't even try. But the entire gaming world is not me, and graphics are always a big discussion. If they want to waste money on pointless graphics and drive up the price of the hardware/software, that's their loss. I just don't want anything to do with it and I don't see why I should have to pay more because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) I think you're overrating the trouble it takes to make 3D graphics. It may take awhile to make an individual model or texture, but it is much faster to animate them in return, and they can simply port over FE9/10's engine. The game will also be priced similarly to other games regardless. Edited March 31, 2011 by Highlander!Rody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 If they want to waste money on pointless graphics and drive up the price of the hardware/software, that's their loss. I just don't want anything to do with it and I don't see why I should have to pay more because of it. Who is "their" in your context? I can only assume it's the companies. And who else is affected by the losses of these companies? The people who want what they produce. Us. I want Fire Emblem to be successful because I want to keep playing and discussing it. If improved graphics help that, I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I happen to appreciate decency and not heavy commercializing. Just look where that's gotten celebrities these days. Popularity =/= Decency You're implying that Fire Emblem getting more popular or getting better graphics will necessarily mean that it will get worse. I don't have to explain to anyone how that doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Who is "their" in your context? I can only assume it's the companies. And who else is affected by the losses of these companies? The people who want what they produce. Us. I want Fire Emblem to be successful because I want to keep playing and discussing it. If improved graphics help that, I'm all for it. And I don't think improved graphics will make it more successful. I think you're overrating the trouble it takes to make 3D graphics. It may take awhile to make an individual model or texture, but it is much faster to animate them in return, and they can simply port over FE9/10's engine. The game will also be priced similarly to other games regardless. Maybe I am, I don't know anything about game programming. I don't mind improved graphics if it doesn't make the game cost more, or take longer to be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 And I don't think improved graphics will make it more successful. But there's no doubt that it would have wider appeal with better graphics. I don't think anyone actually prefers ugly games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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