Raven Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) So it's already kicked off. New Zealand (the hosts) have creamed Tonga 41 - 10. These are the fixtures, along with results. All times are in New Zealand time: Go Wales. Edited October 23, 2011 by V-Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 It's a pretty scoreboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) More games have been played today: Pool A France 47 - 21 Japan Pool B Scotland 34 - 24 Romania Argentina 9 - 13 England Pool D Fiji 49 - 25 Namibia Tomorrow: Australia v Italy Ireland v USA South Africa v Wales Edited September 10, 2011 by V-Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I'm used to Divisions in US football, not Pools. They mean the same thing though, right? They're divided by skill? I'm just getting into rugby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 >several 40+ scores This isn't the rugby I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 I'm used to Divisions in US football, not Pools. They mean the same thing though, right? They're divided by skill? I'm just getting into rugby. The teams are not divided into skill or anything like that. There are 5 teams in each pool, placed randomly. The winner and runner-up (1st and 2nd) in each pool qualify for the quarter-finals. Teams ranked third, fourth and fifth will be eliminated from the Tournament. Quarter-final matches: QF 1 - Winner pool C v Runner up pool D QF 2 - Winner pool B v Runner up pool A QF 3 - Winner pool D v Runner up pool C QF 4 - Winner pool A v Runner up pool B Teams winning quarter-final matches qualify for the semi-finals and teams losing quarter-final matches will be eliminated from the Tournament. Semi-final matches: SF 1 - Winner QF1 v Winner QF2 SF 2 - Winner QF3 v Winner QF4 And so on. >several 40+ scores This isn't the rugby I know What is the rugby you're more familiar with? The scoring system is slightly different (5 points a try, 3 points for a converted penalty kick) to what I'm familiar with, but these teams are among the best in the world. And on that note, new matches were played today. Australia 32 - 6 Italy Ireland 22 - 10 USA South Africa 17 - 16 Wales South Africa won the 2007 Rugby World Cup, so I was expecting Wales to get killed here. They held up well, and I think they will make it into the quarter-finals with S Africa, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted September 18, 2011 Author Share Posted September 18, 2011 Some new games have been played since my last update: 14th September 2011: Tonga 20 - 25 Canada Scotland 15 - 6 Georgia Samoa 49 - 12 Namibia 15th September 2011: Russia 6 - 13 USA 16th September 2011: New Zealand 83 - 7 Japan 17th September 2011: Argentina 43 - 8 Romania Australia 6 - 15 Ireland South Africa 49 - 3 Fiji 18th September 2011: France 46 - 19 Canada England 41 - 10 Georgia Wales 17 - 10 Samoa I was pretty worried that Wales would end up losing to Samoa. Samoa were leading by 10 - 6 by the end of the first half, but during the second half Wales ended up defending well and getting themselves 11 points (2 penalties and a try). Also a surprise was Ireland's win over Australia. They are pretty much guaranteed a place in the Quarter-finals now. Less of a surprise was New Zealand crushing Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 What is the rugby you're more familiar with? The scoring system is slightly different (5 points a try, 3 points for a converted penalty kick) to what I'm familiar with, but these teams are among the best in the world. Well, normally in a tight match between veterans you'd expect both teams to have relatively low scores as they reach a stalemate. 83-7 in rugby is like 8-0 in football, and in a world cup for football such scores rarely occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Well, normally in a tight match between veterans you'd expect both teams to have relatively low scores as they reach a stalemate. 83-7 in rugby is like 8-0 in football, and in a world cup for football such scores rarely occur. Wouldn't it be more like 12-1, which is even more ridiculous? That's equivalent to 11 converted tries + 2 converted penalty kicks. Or subtract 3 from the first and add 7 to the second. Or some other set-ups with non-converted tries. I'm sad my Canada lost to France, though Canada is never that good in these things if they aren't hockey or curling, so no real surprise there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I was going to say how much of a shock it was to see the Wallabies lose to Ireland, but when I saw how terribly we played, hell, even GEORGIA could have beaten us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burning_phoneix Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Wouldn't it be more like 12-1, which is even more ridiculous? That's equivalent to 11 converted tries + 2 converted penalty kicks. Or subtract 3 from the first and add 7 to the second. Or some other set-ups with non-converted tries. I'm sad my Canada lost to France, though Canada is never that good in these things if they aren't hockey or curling, so no real surprise there. France is one of the favourites so it should be no surprise. The Canadians did well to beat Tonga and still have a good chance to make it through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 Sorry for not updating for 10 days; I have been without internet. Here are the games that have played since the update: 20th September 2011: Italy 53 - 17 Russia 21st September 2011: Tonga 31 - 18 Japan 22nd September 2011: South Africa 87 - 0 Namibia 23rd September 2011: Australia 67 - 5 USA 24th September 2011: New Zealand 37 - 17 France England 67 - 3 Romania 25th September 2011: Argentina 13 - 12 Scotland Ireland 62 - 12 Russia Fiji 7 - 27 Samoa 26th September 2011: Wales 81 - 7 Namibia 27th September 2011: Canada 23 - 23 Japan Italy 27 - 10 USA 28th September 2011: Georgia 25 - 9 Romania Remaining fixtures: Pool A: France - Tonga New Zealand - Canada Pool B: England - Scotland Argentina - Georgia Pool C: Australia - Russia Ireland - Italy Pool D: South Africa - Samoa Wales - Fiji This is what the pools currently look like (Top 2 teams of each Pool by the end of the Qualifiers will go to the Quarter-Finals): As for the amount of crazy pointage that gets racked up in some of these games, the answer is simple: The high-scoring team outclasses the losing team. By a lot. Just watch a game - you will be surprised what can and does happen within the 80 minutes of play that occurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Wouldn't it be more like 12-1, which is even more ridiculous? That's equivalent to 11 converted tries + 2 converted penalty kicks. Or subtract 3 from the first and add 7 to the second. Or some other set-ups with non-converted tries. It wasn't really a mathematical equivalent, more like an example of a high score. I'm sad my Canada lost to France, though Canada is never that good in these things if they aren't hockey or curling, so no real surprise there. Well currently you're third in your pool, which is definitely respectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 New updates: 30th September 2011: South Africa 13 - 5 Samoa 1st October 2011: France 14 - 19 Tonga England 16 - 12 Scotland Australia 68 - 22 Russia Remaining fixtures: New Zealand - Canada Argentina - Georgia Ireland - Italy Wales - Fiji So, Tonga beat France. Careless. Scotland nearly beat England, but England got a try and a conversion in on the ~77th minute; 3 minutes before the game was to end. If Scotland is to go through to the Quarter-Finals, Georgia needs to beat Argentina by 7 points or more. But that's very unlikely to happen. To me, it's looking like the following teams are going into the Quarter-Finals (in green), and the rest (in red) are going home: From Pool A: New Zealand France Tonga Canada Japan From Pool B: England Argentina Scotland Georgia Romania From Pool C: Australia Ireland Italy USA Russia From Pool D: South Africa Wales Samoa Fiji Namibia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 With the final 4 games of the opening round played, it's on to the Quarter-Finals. Here are the results: 2nd October 2011: New Zealand 79 - 15 Canada Argentina 25 - 7 Georgia Ireland 36 - 6 Italy Wales 66 - 0 Fiji This is the final lineup for the pools; top 2 of each pool is through to the QF: And this is how the rest of the tournament looks: Quarter-final One: 8th October Ireland v Wales Quarter-final Two: 8th October England v France Quarter-final Three: 9th October South Africa v Australia Quarter-final Four: 9th October New Zealand v Argentina Semi-final One: 15th October Ireland/Wales v England/France Semi-final Two: 16th October South Africa/Australia v New Zealand/Argentina Bronze final: 21th October Loser SF1 v Loser SF2 Final: 23th October Winner SF1 v Winner SF2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peener weener Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 We're so fucked why did we just have to get the allblacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm considering watching all of the QF games live - going into the University's Union to watch them with other people who have the same idea. Should be a good weekend for rugby. Just hoping Wales pulls through against Ireland. That would make my weekend. If not, the I'm hoping Ireland pulls through and gets to the Finals. I don't care for either England or France, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 You should be more appreciative of your neighbours D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) You should be more appreciative of your neighbours D: I do. But when it comes to this game, due to rivalry, we would like to see them lose. If they win, then good on them. Edit: Oh you're from England, didn't notice. But my personal opinion says you're going to beat the French. Edited October 5, 2011 by V-Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) Half time now for Wales and Ireland. Wales is winning 10 - 3. Many think Wales will win, but it could be anyone's game, I reckon. Edit: Full time sees Wales through to the Semi-Finals. Wales 22 - 10 Ireland. Wales will play either France or England in the Semis, depending who wins there. Edit 2: Annnnnnnd, I'm off back to bed. Edited October 8, 2011 by V-Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck. At least we're still the best at cricket . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 8.30am is a much more reasonable time to watch rugby, as opposed to 6am. Couldn't stay up to watch England and France too. But yeah as kirsche was indirectly implying, England lost to France, the final score being: England 12 - 19 France. Wales will play against France in the Semi-finals on the 15th October at 2100hrs New Zealand time. There's two more QF matches remaining - South Africa v Australia, and New Zealand v Argentina, playing tomorrow. It will be South Africa or Australia v New Zealand or Argentina in the other half of the Semi-finals. In my opinion, based on previous matches, the points for and against in the pools too, Wales and France will be a good game, but Wales will take it to the Finals, before losing to New Zealand there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) While no devotee, I'm following this casually. I've been hearing (I... think, anyway) that the Australian squad is relatively weak, which is of course outrageous given that Australians are used to being the best at every sport (except football, but that's for, well...). So, um, is there any reason that these possibly imagined rumours are true? Oh, and on a sidenote the New Zealand Warriors (a Rugby League team that plays in Australia for... some reason) are suddenly kicking ass in OUR OWN GODDAMN COUNTRY. I don't know the first thing about League beyond 'how to basically play' (which to be ignorant of in an Australian public school is considered suicide), but apparently (from the word of 'this taxi driver' and 'my equally league-apathetic uncle') a bunch of New Zealand union players migrated to it and are now winning everything with a completely different (presumably union-based) playstyle. Might be of interest to someone, so I figure I may as well leave this little piece of trivia here. Edited October 8, 2011 by Furetchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 While no devotee, I'm following this casually. I've been hearing (I... think, anyway) that the Australian squad is relatively weak, which is of course outrageous given that Australians are used to being the best at every sport (except football, but that's for, well...). So, um, is there any reason that these possibly imagined rumours are true? Yes. Back whan there were four pools, Ireland beat Australia (Pool C). Ireland played 4 games and won 4 games, while Australia played 4 and won 3; losing to Ireland only. Wales just beat Ireland in the QFs, so yeah. South Africa was in the same pool as Wales and beat them by a single point (17-16, which shouldn't have happened). If Australia are beaten by South Africa, which they probably will be, then they won't be reaching even top 8. IMO, New Zealand will beat Argentina, and South Africa will beat Australia. NZ will continue on and beat South Africa, who will then face Wales and win the World Cup. 3rd place will go to either South Africa or France. http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/index.html What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 Well now. Holy shit. Australia 11 - 9 South Africa Ireland beat Australia. Australia beat SA. SA beat Wales. Wales beat Ireland. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD? Regardless... New Zealand 33 - 10 Argentina. This is one of my correct predictions, at least. Either way, I still think NZ are through to the Finals after they beat Australia, to face Wales who will beat France. I hope. Our neighbours of England, Scotland and Ireland (sorry, bros) have all been knocked out. It's time for retribution. Saturday 15th October at 2100 NZ time (0900 GMT): Wales v France. Sunday 16th October at 2100 NZ time (0900 GMT): Australia v New Zealand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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