Helios Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Fun fact: It's legal to marry your first cousin in North Carolina. ...really? Now this made me lol. How stereotypical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 More like irony, rite. PS: I don't have anything against marriage between cousins, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Fun fact: It's legal to marry your first cousin in North Carolina. ...really? And California didn't ban necrophilia until just a decade ago. Not all laws are made equal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjackal Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Ya know, this is a state that spent a whole slew of money for a research program to find out why prisoners hate prison. North Carolina is not that great a state. To think I was born here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike-Mike Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 ... same-sex relationships are still an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Fun fact: It's legal to marry your first cousin in North Carolina. ...really? this isn't too farfetched cause sometimes marrying your cousin is a cultural thing ie, my dad's youngest brother married his first cousin and his children are very well off. my mom's youngest sister also married her first cousin and they are very well off. not that i'd marry my first cousin (oh hell no), but marrying your cousin isn't that bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M. Gei Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 ... same-sex relationships are still an issue? In America (and still much of the world), sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 The UK is apparently legalising same sex marriage within the next 3 years. This page in Wikipedia is most interesting - particularly the list showing bodies that support it and those against it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_Kingdom Same sex marriage is on the whole, supported within the UK, and support is increasing still. Despite the current state of our main three government parties (Labour, Liberal Democrats and Conservatives), they at least got something right in supporting same sex marriage. As for places not in support of same sex marriage, I believe they are heavily influenced by what religion and the bible says about it. Government and religion should never mix because you get shit like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Not sure if it's been posted, or if anyone cares, but it passed 61-39. Doesn't say much about my new home state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 this isn't too farfetched cause sometimes marrying your cousin is a cultural thing ie, my dad's youngest brother married his first cousin and his children are very well off. my mom's youngest sister also married her first cousin and they are very well off. not that i'd marry my first cousin (oh hell no), but marrying your cousin isn't that bad What do you mean by that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 some people seem to think cousin-incest makes you mentally challenged protip: it doesnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) What do you mean by that? some people seem to think cousin-incest makes you mentally challenged protip: it doesnt Not enough genetic diversity can cause disorders in family genes to become more prominent. It's more a problem for when the practice has been going on for a long time, and more with siblings (either half or full), but too much marrying your cousins could cause genetic problems. Hemophilia in the British royal family is an example of this IIRC. Same reason mutts are healthier than purebred dogs. Edited May 9, 2012 by bottlegnomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Not enough genetic diversity can cause disorders in family genes to become more prominent. It's more a problem for when the practice has been going on for a long time, and more with siblings (either half or full), but too much marrying your cousins could cause genetic problems. Hemophilia in the British royal family is an example of this IIRC. Same reason mutts are healthier than purebred dogs. These problems often come up in groups where continual inbreeding has been standard for generations. You would have to go out of your way for numerous parent generations to interbreed in order to get any real problems coming up. That sort of planning isn't a part of standard Western culture any longer. Edited May 9, 2012 by Celice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 These problems often come up in groups where continual inbreeding has been standard for generations. You would have to go out of your way for numerous parent generations to interbreed in order to get any real problems coming up. That sort of planning isn't a part of standard Western culture any longer. I'm aware hence the: Not enough genetic diversity can cause disorders in family genes to become more prominent. It's more a problem for when the practice has been going on for a long time, and more with siblings (either half or full), but too much marrying your cousins could cause genetic problems. Hemophilia in the British royal family is an example of this IIRC. Same reason mutts are healthier than purebred dogs. I was just telling him why the problem with incest initially arose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yeah, I know incest is bad for the genes. I just didn't quite understand Mercenary Raven's expression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yeah, I know incest is bad for the genes. I just didn't quite understand Mercenary Raven's expression. My bad. Rereading it, it is a rather strange usage of the term "very well off." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 yeah i am strange, but i just meant to say "the kids are fine" and stuff, though their kids are successful in life which is what i was getting at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Shoooo, one of my friends posted this on FB. I though y'all (on a random note, I swear to God if any of you spell it ya'll I will find you and stab you) might find it interesting: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2011/04/22/tennessee-dont-say-gay-bill-advances_n_852616.html Hopefully this won't pass. Then again, it is Tennessee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 On the bright side, Obama just confirmed support for gay marriage. Friggin finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Mate Bob Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) On the bright side, Obama just confirmed support for gay marriage. Friggin finally. I know, right? Took him long enough. This issue of marriage equality has been something I've discussed in depth for a while now, and I am part of the group of people fighting for marriage equality in Washington state (our bill passed to allow same-sex marriage, but there will most likely be a referendum and a public vote coming up). The view people against marriage equality have is something I just can't comprehend. A lot of these people hide behind the bible and keep forgetting we have a separation of church and state. There are no other logical reasons as to why same-sex couples can't marry. Edited May 10, 2012 by 1st Mate Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 On top of that, citing the Bible is absurd beyond just the separation of church and state. There are a whole lot of things the Bible says you can/should do that we don't, and unless I'm mistaken, the Bible doesn't put any more emphasis on homosexuality than those things we don't do already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yeah, I know incest is bad for the genes. I just didn't quite understand Mercenary Raven's expression. I had an aunt and uncle that were roughly in the same way that Mercenary Raven's were. They didn't marry to have children, anyway. (In fact, I think they adopted someone, but I can't remember). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 On the bright side, Obama just confirmed support for gay marriage. Friggin finally. I don't consider someone's support being used as leverage for reelection is a bright side. I call that shoddy, and taking tactical advantage of current pre-election events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 On the bright side, Obama just confirmed support for gay marriage. Friggin finally. Of course, he also apparently said that he was OK with states deciding this issue on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolongeractivesheep Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 North Carolina is honestly just an absurdly terrible state in general. The last time they ratified their constitution for anything related to marriage, it was to ban interracial marriage. So bleh. My kind will eventually see equality, I hope. I really do wish that some politician would go and cite the parts of the bible that are much more clear about things that would make a much better point. Such as how if you wear two garments of different cloth as a woman, you are to be stoned to death. Honestly, I wonder what hope there is in a world with so much ignorance and hatred... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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