Xiltas Crysten Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 That's the first time I heard this ò.ô Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Nergal refers to Limstella as his "masterpiece", but there is nothing to indicate he created Limstella in the image of his wife. It seems likely that Nergal had already forgotten about his family long before he created Limstella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) Limstella is not a "tranny", you twit. ~_~ Having no biological gender is not the same as being transgendered, a transvestite, or transsexual. Stop using words you don't understand. Edited June 7, 2012 by Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookofholsety Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 People keep saying that but I find it hard to swallow, "no biological gender" just sounds like another kind of tranny to me in this context. So what you're saying is that "one becoming the other" is the same as "being neither"? That metaphorically changing the channel on the television is the same as the metaphorical television never being on in the first place? Please, enlighten us as to the ways of your little world where these significantly different concepts are one and the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 People keep saying that but I find it hard to swallow, "no biological gender" just sounds like another kind of tranny to me in this context. Well, for one, you should use an accurate term and not the ambiguous tranny. And even then, transsexual and transgender individuals aren't individuals lacking a sex. There's a crag between what you're trying to define and what you're defining it with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanami Touko Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) Limstella is not a "tranny", you twit. ~_~ Yeah, Crash, if you're going to even attempt to talk about transsexuals, could you not use offensive terms? It's very hard for me to not rage at you right now. The term most commonly applied to a genderless person is an Asexual person. A person who defines themselves as having no gender. Edited June 8, 2012 by seph1212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 The term most commonly applied to a genderless person is an Asexual person. A person who defines themselves as having no gender. Really? Even though asexuality has nothing to do with gender roles? At best one could try and use it to denote a sexless-state, but even then, a sex exists, and gender is a step away from sex altogether. What Crash is most likely trying to grasp is a literal sexless entity, as in, no biological, material sex whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanami Touko Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 What Crash is most likely trying to grasp is a literal sexless entity, as in, no biological, material sex whatsoever. Whatever he's grasping at, transsexual isn't the term he's looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Bramimond, however, might be considered transsexual. And also androgynous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 So what you're saying is that "one becoming the other" is the same as "being neither"? That metaphorically changing the channel on the television is the same as the metaphorical television never being on in the first place? Please, enlighten us as to the ways of your little world where these significantly different concepts are one and the same. Pretty much. It's hard to put into words but it's basically "Tranny = Neither dude or chick" and "Genderless = Neither dude or chick" therefore "genderless = tranny". And it just doesn't seem very different to me AND genderlessness in human seems to be counted under the transgender "umbrella" (BTW, I'm not responsible for that particular point so so don't angry with me in specific over that point) Well, for one, you should use an accurate term and not the ambiguous tranny. Not really. :/ Yeah, Crash, if you're going to even attempt to talk about transsexuals, could you not use offensive terms? No! Bramimond, however, might be considered transsexual. And also androgynous. Nope, he's a dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 That's not what tranny means, but I get the feeling that delving further will end badly. I got the sense that Brammimond was male. Nothing concrete, just a sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 That's not what tranny means, but I get the feeling that delving further will end badly. In the most technical sense, I guess but ultimately that's how I see the result of such a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 In the most technical sense, I guess but ultimately that's how I see the result of such a change. and what you see is completely, fundamentally incorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Pretty much. It's hard to put into words but it's basically "Tranny = Neither dude or chick" and "Genderless = Neither dude or chick" therefore "genderless = tranny". And it just doesn't seem very different to me AND genderlessness in human seems to be counted under the transgender "umbrella" (BTW, I'm not responsible for that particular point so so don't angry with me in specific over that point) I believe the general catchall word is "genderqueer", but I don't keep up with the slang so I could be wrong. Also, don't use that word, crash. It's rude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I believe the general catchall word is "genderqueer", but I don't keep up with the slang so I could be wrong. Yeah, that's the one I heard of actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Then why throw around the more offensive and clearly incorrect term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Then why throw around the more offensive and clearly incorrect term? Because I'm not concerned with the former and disagree with the latter? Anyway, we've gotten really off track here so I actually have a question: Didn't Athos refer to Bram with male pronouns, at least primarily? I can't quite remember, I know it's in the script but I don't feel like tracking it down right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Anyway, we've gotten really off track here so I actually have a question: Didn't Athos refer to Bram with male pronouns, at least primarily? I can't quite remember, I know it's in the script but I don't feel like tracking it down right now. I'm not sure that matters, as Hanon was refered to with male pronouns, and she was female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Because I'm not concerned with the former and disagree with the latter? you can't disagree with objective statements; it's just not possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) Because I'm not concerned with the former and disagree with the latter? Well, you should be concerned with the former. Offensive comments are forbidden by the code of conduct. And also it's rude. you can't disagree with objective statements; it's just not possible. Not really. None of us really know for sure whether or not Bramimond is still physically a man, so Crash isn't really incorrect to call him a transsexual. Edited June 8, 2012 by Anouleth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Not really. None of us really know for sure whether or not Bramimond is still physically a man, so Crash isn't really incorrect to call him a transsexual. that's not what i was referring to the transgendered = genderless equivalency that crash believes in is fundamentally incorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I'm not sure that matters, as Hanon was refered to with male pronouns, and she was female. Who? Sorry if that sounds like an empty question but some context might be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Hanon is the Sacae chick with the bow. From the 8 Heroes. (on another note, kinda funny how Sacaen women rarely fight (ShinFir support) when their resident hero is a woman) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Then why would they call her a "he"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Then why would they call her a "he"? Because NoA fucked up? Translators aren't infallible, especially if they haven't localized the prior games taking place in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.