Balcerzak Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Maybe I'm being dumb, and taking cues from paranoid Manix, but check my logic. Shinori refused to get behind the Snike wagon on D3. With him and Helios and Rocker, and Prims, and Sage, my misvote, and Manix misvote, they would have either had it, or just about had it. Shinori gets town cred for this. With a Sage/Prims scumteam it would be only potential LYLO, even with 2 kills, because Shinori could persuade one of them to stop the lock. (Nolynch + 2 kills drops us to 2 scum 2 town) Obviously, if they jailed Shinori, that would shut it down, but I don't know what all goes into calculations in these announcements. Still thinking, but need to post at least some content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 woooooah actually hold up i'm about to blow your fuckin' minds if sage was a townie with an oc role, why didn't he pick mason recruiter from the exact same game when it was more powerful than jailer as it could confirm other players town and, you know, didn't have roleblock utility for scums? explain that atheists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 well if it's a sage/prims scumteam we really have nothing to lose by lynching sage so..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Balcerzk please confirm that I jailed you before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Sage may have scumslipped, so whatever. Bal, confirm he's succesfully jailed you in the past? Confirm that I was jailed. Can super confirm if he gives one or more of the sentences I said as evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 okay so how did he succesfully jail you d3 then get nexused d4??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 FUCKING NEED TO GO FIND ELIES REPORT ON HELIOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Balcerzk please confirm that I jailed you before. Does not confirm that me being jailed was a mistake, is the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 FUCKING NEED TO GO FIND ELIES REPORT ON HELIOS. It was an inno scan. What's up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 What day was it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 okay so how did he succesfully jail you d3 then get nexused d4??? i think this is scum botching up their fakeclaim, also not picking masons, also supporting snike counterwagon, also overuse of newb defense d2 when i was questioning him instead of suspecting, also quicklynch imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 there have been no other mistakes that I'm aware of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 okay so how did he succesfully jail you d3 then get nexused d4??? I presume that (from manix example post http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=34937&st=1400&p=2148251entry2148251 ) N2: Inspect (nexus down) D3: (nexus down) N3: receive result (nexus still down) D4: (nexus reactivated) N4: Inspect (nexus down) Sage's jail is a day jail. Host Error just moved teh receive result up a night, but didn't alter anything else/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 there's still the problem of ~why jail the guy with the nexus~ that's like, the worst jail you could make since you have no control over it. if anything he's trying to wiggle out of being caught blocking snike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 also shinori, tailor only works on the night it targets another player, unless the game is modded by psych Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 there's still the problem of ~why jail the guy with the nexus~ that's like, the worst jail you could make since you have no control over it. if anything he's trying to wiggle out of being caught blocking snike Let's ignore that for a moment. Go look at his d3 stuff, and tell me how it's townsided. Also, note how he's suddenly active as can all be when his neck is on the line. Then add this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 also shinori, tailor only works on the night it targets another player, unless the game is modded by psych OH. KAY. See here I thought all tailors were like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 OH. KAY. See here I thought all tailors were like that. No, Kay was the SERIAL KILLER, not the TAILOR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 alright, so are we gonna lynch sage now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 there's still the problem of ~why jail the guy with the nexus~ that's like, the worst jail you could make since you have no control over it. if anything he's trying to wiggle out of being caught blocking snike I forgot he was a nexus ;/ Poor defense I know but eh its not like I'm actually going to change your mind or anything. Your mind is clearly made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 If Manix's death was Kay's doing (and it had to be), and Kay's death was Prims's doing... Where's the mafia kill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Either: - Kay tries to shoot Snike (jail resolves before high priority kill since it's a day action), scum shoots Manix - Both scum and Prims shoot Kay - Both scum and Kay shoot Manix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Also, it's impossible for Sage to stop a kill sourced from scum-Snike, because Snike needs to be buddies with Shinori, who could have killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Or, Snike and Shinori are scum, but they sent Snike to do the kill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 cut by prims, apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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